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Post by ryou766 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:19 am

SS4 was a better transformation than SSG and SSB combined. It went back to its roots of the Oozaru and was a power that a Saiyan could achieve on their own rather than the assistance of several others. Also, its feats are comparable to SSG, save god ki and time limit. Also, appearance wise, it certainly was more creative than what SSG resulted in.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:40 am

Hero wrote:Is that in reference to my post, or the thread in general haha?
The thread in general. Which, obviously, includes your post to an extent. But I'll agree with Videl (although she's my second-favorite female next to Pan).
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:38 pm

ryou766 wrote:SS4 was a better transformation than SSG and SSB combined. It went back to its roots of the Oozaru and was a power that a Saiyan could achieve on their own rather than the assistance of several others. Also, its feats are comparable to SSG, save god ki and time limit. Also, appearance wise, it certainly was more creative than what SSG resulted in.
I fully second this

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ryou766 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:48 pm

Super should have never been made. I could've been settled with the movies and occasional OVA.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:55 pm

Sorry. THIS is my last post on here!
ryou766 wrote:Super should have never been made. I could've been settled with the movies and occasional OVA.
You say that, but then you wouldn't have Black. Sure, you could've settled, but then we wouldn't have such a great character.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ryou766 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:57 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:You say that, but then you wouldn't have Black. Sure, you could've settled, but then we wouldn't have such a great character.
We've always had Black - he was just called Evil Goku/Tullece. I would've been fine without his and Super's existence.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:33 am

ryou766 wrote:Super should have never been made. I could've been settled with the movies and occasional OVA.
Again I agree here. Preferably post EOZ movies

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Post by 404FILENOTFOUND » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:34 am

ryou766 wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:You say that, but then you wouldn't have Black. Sure, you could've settled, but then we wouldn't have such a great character.
We've always had Black - he was just called Evil Goku/Tullece. I would've been fine without his and Super's existence.

We all wanted a new series, but didn't ask for it.
I wouldn't say we always had him. If I recall Black is using bodies as a way to represent himself physically and he decided to go with looking like Goku, which isn't exactly the cat's meow for me because I would love for Black to have a more unique look, at least have a different hair style. I haven't watched Tree of Might in awhile so I could be wrong but I'm sure there is enough difference between Tullece and Black as characters to make them different besides them being villains.

As for unpopular opinion? I think super saiyan blue is more appealing to look at than the previous super saiyan transformations. Despite super saiyan 3 being my favorite one out of the bunch, I really love the shade of blue of SSB and with Whis's training uniform I find it even more lovely to look at.

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:05 am

Anime Kitten wrote:Sorry. THIS is my last post on here!
ryou766 wrote:Super should have never been made. I could've been settled with the movies and occasional OVA.
You say that, but then you wouldn't have Black. Sure, you could've settled, but then we wouldn't have such a great character.
We also wouldn't have people bitching and moaning and bitching and moaning about it every time it comes up.
I don't understand why people like the ROF ouitfits for Gokuu and Vegeta, not to mention the fact that Vegeta has regressed back into his Cell arc outfit, which is stupid.
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Post by SaiyanZ » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:31 am

I don't think Freeza is that special of a character compared to other villains.
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ryou766 wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:You say that, but then you wouldn't have Black. Sure, you could've settled, but then we wouldn't have such a great character.
We've always had Black - he was just called Evil Goku/Tullece. I would've been fine without his and Super's existence.

We all wanted a new series, but didn't ask for it.
I actually think Goku Black could be a better villain than Tullece if his story is executed well. Of course Super could screw it up yet, but as of now I'm cautiously optimistic TOEI will retain the quality of the last few episodes.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:05 pm

ryou766 wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:You say that, but then you wouldn't have Black. Sure, you could've settled, but then we wouldn't have such a great character.
We've always had Black - he was just called Evil Goku/Tullece. I would've been fine without his and Super's existence.

We all wanted a new series, but didn't ask for it.
I'm so sick of people comparing the two. Yes, Tullece was design with Goku in mind. The two characters are two different from each other. Goku Black may be Zamasu using Goku's body in Future Trunks timeline. Tullece is more closer to Radditz than Goku. Tullece came to Earth looking for Goku, wanted to kill life on Earth, ask Goku to join him and try to hold Gohan against his will just like Radditz. It's surprises me that no one really compare the two before and notice it. At least Goku Black has a different motivation in mind and has some level of depth to his character so far.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ryou766 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:46 pm

Tullece's whole conception was based off of being an evil Goku.

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Post by Nejishiki » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:54 pm

He's articulating that his characteristics do not mirror Goku's in any meaningful way and I'd have to agree. Take away his appearance and the only thing that connects the two together is Goku expressing that he's happy that he hit his head or else he'd turn up like Tullece. Goku Black, in comparison, seems to be striving to be just like Goku, as far as fighting skill and sharing the joy of battle is concerned. Judging them by their character and motives alone, neither are 'Evil Goku' or 'Kakarotto', but Goku Black shares more traits with Goku than Tullece ever has. It's not so much what they started off as, but what they ended up being in the final product.

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Post by ryou766 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:56 pm

They're comparable in the sense that Black and Tullece look similar to Goku, yet are two different beings.

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Post by SSJ Human » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:27 pm

SaiyanZ wrote:I don't think Freeza is that special of a character compared to other villains.
I agree, though you have to understand that perspective is due to the whole Saiyan genocide he committed and being seen as a catalyst for most of Dragon Ball.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:36 pm

Here's one: I'm fine with Gohan not being a fighter anymore. He already got tons of impressive fights and scenes from the Saiyan to Buu sagas, and he deserves to retire with his family.
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Post by HybridSaiyan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:42 pm

Vegeta's Buu saga attire should have remained instead of his outdated Cell Saga attire.

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Post by ryou766 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:14 pm

Super should have remained a monthly manga series instead of an anime.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by The Patrolman » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:20 pm

I only found Cell interesting when he became his Perfect form
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