Black's motivation

[ryou766]

Black has destroyed numerous planets and its inhabitants before Earth, so he doesn't think kindly of all of mankind.

There is no reason for him to remain on Earth for as long as he already has been. He has committed mass genocide, and already prevented Mirai Trunks from returning to his time line by destroying his time machine. Black even says that there is no one who poses a threat to him now with Trunks gone. Thus, leaving him on a planet with a handful of defenseless humans. Why he hasn't destroyed Earth, along with those select few remaining on it, is beyond me.

Who am I kidding? Plot reasons.

[Luke Groundwalker]

Yeah, Black seems to have something against either humans or just people in general. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it has looked like Future Earth is actually pretty fine outside the dark clouds over West City. In Episode 51, in the flashback to Future Trunks vs Black, we see that the city's wrecked, but the countryside is fine. He might have a warped sense of justice and think that since people are responsible for things like pollution, they are God's mistake and should die.
Shoutout to speedsubs in the picture below (as far as I know it's not actually humans specifically):



So my current guess is that he hates people because he loves nature, and that he wants to destroy species that harm nature, or maybe just destroy all sapient life (I think that's what it's called).

Yeah I'm starting to believe this may be it as well. Remember the very first episode of this arc where it pans out of West City, we're shown to a forest that is unaffected by Black's destruction. Also a lot of people are wondering why Black is selectively killing life rather than just destroying the planet, and I think that might be it. While it may be underwhelming to have a villain based around the idea of humans being bad for nature, it certainly seems that might be the direction once you actually take in what TOEI has shown us of Black so far.

Though I'm curious what Zamasu has "seen" that causes such a radical decision. Maybe it has something to do with the Time Ring's ability to travel to the future.

[Nejishiki]

If the Time Ring's future jumping is being used as set-up for what he does in the future, how likely do you see this all becoming one deadly misunderstanding? That would be quite the extremism based on a life-like vision, further highlighting the purpose of why time manipulation shouldn't be abused as much as it is. I'm still theorizing that Zamasu and Goku Black are two separate characters for now, so it could be a mistake from the latter. Actually, Zamasu being an apprentice in the present might be a bigger detail than we're led to believe. Could Goku Black be the new apprentice in the future? I'm just playing with ideas.

[Luke Groundwalker]

What I think we're going to see here is a cause and effect type situation, hence Whis' explanation of the butterfly effect. But basically, Goku will meet Zamasu in the coming episode, try to fight him on the premise of his ki being similar to Black's, and shows Zamasu how strong he is. However Zamasu would have no desire to fight him or anything of that sort in the current time. Then, years later, for some reason he SNAPS. Something happens that changes his believes into something radical, and he comes up with a plan to iniate his goal. He goes to Universe 7 to search for Goku, and ends up landing in Future Trunks' timeline (afterall, Future Trunks' era is the "true" fate of Universe 7). He finds Goku is dead there, and instead goes to the afterlife to search for Goku and somehow take control over his body (possibly fusion).

[HeroR]

What I think we're going to see here is a cause and effect type situation, hence Whis' explanation of the butterfly effect. But basically, Goku will meet Zamasu in the coming episode, try to fight him on the premise of his ki being similar to Black's, and shows Zamasu how strong he is. However Zamasu would have no desire to fight him or anything of that sort in the current time. Then, years later, for some reason he SNAPS. Something happens that changes his believes into something radical, and he comes up with a plan to iniate his goal. He goes to Universe 7 to search for Goku, and ends up landing in Future Trunks' timeline (afterall, Future Trunks' era is the "true" fate of Universe 7). He finds Goku is dead there, and instead goes to the afterlife to search for Goku and somehow take control over his body (possibly fusion).

Trunks' timeline isn't the 'true' timeline since it has been corrupted by time travel. Namely, Trunks went back into the past twice and became strong enough to kill the androids and Cell. Also, there are at least three other timelines like Trunks' like the one Cell came from and the unseen timeline.

[MonkeyKing16]

I've seen a lot of fiction in which the antagonist believes humans shouldn't live and exterminates them. One of the charms of Dragonball is how simple it can be. If it goes into detail like why humanity sucks and humans are monsters like other works (I'm looking at you Naruto), this could potentially hurt the arc.

[Marco Polo]

I've seen a lot of fiction in which the antagonist believes humans shouldn't live and exterminates them. One of the charms of Dragonball is how simple it can be. If it goes into detail like why humanity sucks and humans are monsters like other works (I'm looking at you Naruto), this could potentially hurt the arc.

Yeah Androids Saga was so simple.

[Shinomori]

Black's statements about humans being the only failed creation seems to contradict Trunks' previous statements concerning him in that he already destroyed other civilizations prior to coming to earth. Then there's some confusion with Black having possible links to universe 10. If he is from that universe, what is he doing in universe 7? I think the only thing we can say about Black is he is a Kai of some sort.

Something else that is confusing about Black, many believe he has possessed Goku's body, but he doesn't seem to know a whole lot about Goku himself as he stated he wished to learn more about him. My theory is he is actually fused with Goku through the use of the Potara, but as I said it's strange that he acts like he doesn't know much about Goku other than his reputation.

[Alee9977]

Black's statements about humans being the only failed creation seems to contradict Trunks' previous statements concerning him in that he already destroyed other civilizations prior to coming to earth. Then there's some confusion with Black having possible links to universe 10. If he is from that universe, what is he doing in universe 7? I think the only thing we can say about Black is he is a Kai of some sort.

Something else that is confusing about Black, many believe he has possessed Goku's body, but he doesn't seem to know a whole lot about Goku himself as he stated he wished to learn more about him. My theory is he is actually fused with Goku through the use of the Potara, but as I said it's strange that he acts like he doesn't know much about Goku other than his reputation.

We are going to find out in a few episodes, or I think so.
Toei will explain everything or won't explain barely anything, it happened before, didn't explain how Frieza got so powerful in a short time or what the hell Super Saiyan Blue is.

[HeroR]

Black's statements about humans being the only failed creation seems to contradict Trunks' previous statements concerning him in that he already destroyed other civilizations prior to coming to earth. Then there's some confusion with Black having possible links to universe 10. If he is from that universe, what is he doing in universe 7? I think the only thing we can say about Black is he is a Kai of some sort.

Something else that is confusing about Black, many believe he has possessed Goku's body, but he doesn't seem to know a whole lot about Goku himself as he stated he wished to learn more about him. My theory is he is actually fused with Goku through the use of the Potara, but as I said it's strange that he acts like he doesn't know much about Goku other than his reputation.

We are going to find out in a few episodes, or I think so.
Toei will explain everything or won't explain barely anything, it happened before, didn't explain how Frieza got so powerful in a short time or what the hell Super Saiyan Blue is.

Toei did explained how Freeza got so powerful. He trained. They just didn't show the training, which isn't new. Like we never saw the training Trunks and Vegeta did in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. And they did give some things about what Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is. It's Super Saiyan God that got mutated into a stronger form with great ki control. Now if you're talking about how they achieved it, then Toei didn't really explained.

And what Black is, is treated as important other than the questions of what kind of training Freeza did.

[UpFromTheSkies]

What we know so far is that goku black hates human for some reason which I'm wondering why?
Why would black could care about some weak race like humans where they never done anything to affect universe?

If Black is Zamasu, then he's a Kaioshin and is supposed to serve and protect humans, but he sees them as greedy and selfish beings that constantly fight among themselves, and he doesn't believe they are worth protecting. He thinks they are a blight on an otherwise perfect universe and believes they should be wiped out.

[ekrolo2]

I've seen a lot of fiction in which the antagonist believes humans shouldn't live and exterminates them. One of the charms of Dragonball is how simple it can be. If it goes into detail like why humanity sucks and humans are monsters like other works (I'm looking at you Naruto), this could potentially hurt the arc.

Yeah Androids Saga was so simple.

Plus Battle of Gods and F (refreshingly) actually talk about why Goku and Vegeta suck as actual plot points so taking that principle and applying it to Earth wouldn't be bad idea if you ask me. Honestly, whenever I hear stuff about how Dragon Ball shouldn't shed light on some subjects, it comes across as an attempt to try and bury the very present bad and numerous implications of its universe and characters. Namely how the entire cast are a giant collective cabal of cunts.

[MonkeyKing16]

Hmmmm.....maybe I should have worded myself better. Hope Black doesn't end up becoming a bad Naruto villain because of the whole "destruction for paradise/humanity sucks" schtick.

[fadeddreams5]

^ Eh. Why not? We've had a villain that wanted to conquer a planet (King Piccolo), one who already conquered various parts of the universe but lived in fear of being overthrown (Frieza), one who desired to test his "perfect" power against the strongest in the universe (Perfect Cell), and one who simply relished destruction of everything (Kid Buu). Goku Black actually loving his universe but wanting to get rid of the beings in it would be refreshing in this series.

[Alee9977]

It's something new for Db but not something new for the anime. I wouldn't be surprised if at the end Black regrets of everything he has done.