"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

[Brian4205]

Do we know what other characters you get beside from trunks for the deluxe edition?

[SSJ God Gogeta]

So on my home from work I stopped by my local EB games (Canadian Gamestop) and noticed that they had a display already setup for Xenoverse 2. So asked about the pre-order bonus and the multiple editions of the game and they said it's just like the usual, you just need to pre-order one of the three versions of the game but the codes are limited so it's first come first serve basis.

That's the way it should be. Again, it's probably just a mistake made by Gamestop customer support...

[Fresh Prince]

I called my local Gamestop manager, he's a nice dude.
He said he ordered the Collector's Edition of Xenoverse 2 and he knows that it does come with the Black Goku also said the people who run the gamestop website are a little behind that's why Customer Service doesn't say if Black Goku is included.
I don't know to believe him or not sometimes he's been wrong, Gamestop usually doesn't know what they're talking about. We should get some people to contact Bandai Namco about Goku Black coming with DE and CE versions of the game.

[TekTheNinja]

Really? I must've missed that. When did they say no exclusive transformations?

From this post on NeoGAF that was quoted a little while ago in this thread:

Nameks and Humans will get an "awaken" ability, that works like transformation, except it doesn't alter them physically, just changes aura and stats.

That's actually REALLY lame.

[nato25]

That is very lame . Thats like a permanent power up bot a transformation, it was always a bit silly kid gohan and krillin could transform to it in the budokai games.

Saying that, I'm it not sure what else you could give those races. Outside of roshi no human has a transformation in the series that i can remember and neither do nameks outside of giant form and that causes gameplay issues.

[TekTheNinja]

Then again that's also the same post that said:

As to why "characters" costumes from original characters can not be changed color wise, it's a licensing issue.

And wasn't that debunked?

[Anime Kitten]

You know what's funny? Everyone's been talking about transformations since before the game was announced. I'm not one to discourage discussion, but I feel like I'm the only one on this thread that wants to move on to something else. If you wish to continue, that's okay with me as well.

[TekTheNinja]

You know what's funny? Everyone's been talking about transformations since before the game was announced. I'm not one to discourage discussion, but I feel like I'm the only one on this thread that wants to move on to something else. If you wish to continue, that's okay with me as well.

We don't have much else to talk about right now.

By the way guys, just wondering, why do we believe what Slaythe says again? Is he in close contact with Dimps or something?

[nato25]

Unfortunately the transformations are probably the biggest new feature of the game. Its cool we are getting SSJ3 and all but when you think about it they really havent added much. SSJ3 was probably the most work but what Golden Frieza is just a colour swap without any model changes? Kid Buu transformation is literally Kid Buu... So yeah they didnt really have to work hard at all to just add these little things. They should be going all out, SSJ4, God and Blue should be there for completions sake, maybe even the buff forms.

Freeza's race should have many transformations not just golden, players should have been able to dictate the look of each form themselves.

We should also have more races I'm dissapointed they are not adding any in this game I thought that would be a given. Cell, Kai and general alien race (could make ginyu force looking goons and stuff like that) were all logical inclusions I though. The fighting system seems improved and I like what I've seen of the costumes so far but theres still a lot that can be done. I have a feeling they are holding stuff like the extra saiyan transformations for XV3.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Unfortunately the transformations are probably the biggest new feature of the game. Its cool we are getting SSJ3 and all but when you think about it they really havent added much. SSJ3 was probably the most work but what Golden Frieza is just a colour swap without any model changes? Kid Buu transformation is literally Kid Buu... So yeah they didnt really have to work hard at all to just add these little things. They should be going all out, SSJ4, God and Blue should be there for completions sake, maybe even the buff forms.

Freeza's race should have many transformations not just golden, players should have been able to dictate the look of each form themselves.

We should also have more races I'm dissapointed they are not adding any in this game I thought that would be a given. Cell, Kai and general alien race (could make ginyu force looking goons and stuff like that) were all logical inclusions I though. The fighting system seems improved and I like what I've seen of the costumes so far but theres still a lot that can be done. I have a feeling they are holding stuff like the extra saiyan transformations for XV3.

You do realize that SSJ(2) in XV was just a color swap of the hair and eyes plus added glow that offered a 5% increase (at best) attack boost right? Seriously stop going into Heroes territory with "SSJ4, God, etc for CaC" transformations.

Also there's a good reason for not adding races. All the standard playstyle types (Glass Cannon, Jack-of-all-Trades, Mighty Glacier) are taken by the current 5 races. There's nothing left to add outside of Lightning Bruiser, which is basically a pumped up "Jack of all Stats" that can be considered broken unless certain disadvantages are added. Considering how bad balance was in XV with the five races, Dimps was better off balancing them out better in XV2 instead of adding more races and, in the process, more problems.

[Psycho50501]

Then again that's also the same post that said:

As to why "characters" costumes from original characters can not be changed color wise, it's a licensing issue.

And wasn't that debunked?

We have seen in several videos/screenshots that Jacos top has been colored, plus Bardocks arm guntlets and boots. And I think someone said Vegeta's cell saga outfit was recolored as well. So i don't belive that one bit.

[nato25]

I don't really see why the races need to have their own traits anyway, you customise them yourself with how you spread out their stats. I dont want heroes territory in terms of SSJ4 Broly and that stuff, but for our own created character the sky should be the limit and we choose what transformation we want.

Also if the developers arent going to add new races because common RPG archtypes are already taken thats not great for creativity.

[BlazingBarrrager]

I don't really see why the races need to have their own traits anyway, you customise them yourself with how you spread out their stats. I dont want heroes territory in terms of SSJ4 Broly and that stuff, but for our own created character the sky should be the limit and we choose what transformation we want.

Also if the developers arent going to add new races because common RPG archtypes are already taken thats not great for creativity.

Because it adds diversity and more uniqueness among the races, and saying that our CaCs should get whatever we want is no different than Heroes throwing whatever at whoever. You're basically saying are characters should be more Mary Sue/Marty Stus than they already are.

Creativity? Seriously? That's your argument? This is a fighting game, not a turn-based card game or point-and-click MMORPG.

[nato25]

I dont get why youre so against content? Xenoverse 1 set up a pretty good character creator but now that needs to be expanded upon. I personally want the option to choose what transformation I go to as a Saiyan character. There is lots of demand out there for the god forms. It would be great if maybe there was a saiyan side chapter in the story where five other saiyans got around you and did the ritual to give you SSG.

Youre arguement of diversity is pretty weak too. I don't want diversity in terms of the CaC, all created characters should be created equal for balance, we have the stat distribution to make them unique as well as their movesets and some clothing options. Now we have transformations to further that uniqueness as well. In XV2 its already been said you can choose your type of ki blast so thats already a step in the right direction. I'm hoping we can choose our throws and even our combat style (as in you can make your moveset mimic goku or any other appropiate roster character, so like a saiyan couldnt have lord slugs fighting style for example).

The race exclusive abilities were dumb anyway. What reasoning is behind giving female earthlings the strongest ki attacks? Why did Frieza race have a paralysis ki blast? Those features weren't based on anything and are what gave rose to certain builds being more powerful than others.

My main point is there is enough uniqueness between each players CaC as it is. The race itself shouldnt affect balance which then lets the developers add whatever races they want.

[BlazingBarrrager]

I dont get why youre so against content? Xenoverse 1 set up a pretty good character creator but now that needs to be expanded upon. I personally want the option to choose what transformation I go to as a Saiyan character. There is lots of demand out there for the god forms. It would be great if maybe there was a saiyan side chapter in the story where five other saiyans got around you and did the ritual to give you SSG.

Youre arguement of diversity is pretty weak too. I don't want diversity in terms of the CaC, all created characters should be created equal for balance, we have the stat distribution to make them unique as well as their movesets and some clothing options. Now we have transformations to further that uniqueness as well. In XV2 its already been said you can choose your type of ki blast so thats already a step in the right direction. I'm hoping we can choose our throws and even our combat style (as in you can make your moveset mimic goku or any other appropiate roster character, so like a saiyan couldnt have lord slugs fighting style for example).

The race exclusive abilities were dumb anyway. What reasoning is behind giving female earthlings the strongest ki attacks? Why did Frieza race have a paralysis ki blast? Those features weren't based on anything and are what gave rose to certain builds being more powerful than others.

My main point is there is enough uniqueness between each players CaC as it is. The race itself shouldnt affect balance which then lets the developers add whatever races they want.

So what you're saying is that you want your character to be a Mary Sue/Marty Stu Saiyan.

[Anime Kitten]

That didn't exactly answer why you're so against content, like nato25 asked.

[BlazingBarrrager]

That didn't exactly answer why you're so against content, like nato25 asked.

Because it's "poorly done" content whose only purpose is to please fanboys while ruining the lore and character devlopment of the main cast. Seriously he's asking for Saiyans to have SSJ4 AND God Form. Those two don't exist in the same timeline/continuity. Not only that, but it's basically shoving all the other races out the door. Also as my friend here quotes....

I don't want to see an army of Gods running around all over the game. I don't want my character to be an unstoppable Mary Sue. I never want to see my character slapping Beerus and Whis like they're bitches, because it undermines the entire theme of the franchise: "There's always someone better than you."

[Anime Kitten]

That didn't exactly answer why you're so against content, like nato25 asked.

Because it's "poorly done" content whose only purpose is to please fanboys while ruining the lore and character devlopment of the main cast. Seriously he's asking for Saiyans to have SSJ4 AND God Form. Those two don't exist in the same timeline/continuity. Not only that, but it's basically shoving all the other races out the door.

I would want all the Super Saiyan forms if there was no balance. With balance? Clearly no one can even agree to disagree, so perhaps it would be better if Races had no transformations.

Also, you seem to forget that Xenoverse is all about time travel. SSJ God, Blue and 4 could all easily be in the same place, and regardless, there's no proof that Saiyans can't unlock SSJ4 in the main continuity.

[BlazingBarrrager]

That didn't exactly answer why you're so against content, like nato25 asked.

Because it's "poorly done" content whose only purpose is to please fanboys while ruining the lore and character devlopment of the main cast. Seriously he's asking for Saiyans to have SSJ4 AND God Form. Those two don't exist in the same timeline/continuity. Not only that, but it's basically shoving all the other races out the door.

I would want all the Super Saiyan forms if there was no balance. With balance? Clearly no one can even agree to disagree, so perhaps it would be better if Races had no transformations.

Also, you seem to forget that Xenoverse is all about time travel. SSJ God, Blue and 4 could all easily be in the same place, and regardless, there's no proof that Saiyans can't unlock SSJ4 in the main continuity.

Oh sure, because in XV Saiyans having Super Saiyan was an absolute requirement to play them, and now they should get God so they can become better than Goku. When I look at these transformation wants do you know what I constantly say to myself? "They want their character to be better than Goku." Every. Single. Time. I don't want to see my Saiyan character like that. Yeah she can go SSJ3, but you know what? The game just became another source of media I can use her in where she works for the transformation, can use it, and still (by lore and storytelling) be weaker than most of the main Saiyans bar (possibly) Gotenks while nonetheless working together to fight the big bads. THAT'S the kind of content I long for.

[nato25]

This is Xenoverse, continuity is completely out the window. GT and Gods arc are existing in the same timeline and now you're about to throw Super into the mix with Xenoverse 2. The games arent trying to fit in with the show as cool as I think that would be if they did.

Balance isn't really that hard to achieve for the devs. Budokai did a good job just with small attack boost and defense decreases. The same could easily be done here, this is a game and it needs balance over being true to the show unfortunately.