"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

[nato25]

Because it's "poorly done" content whose only purpose is to please fanboys while ruining the lore and character devlopment of the main cast. Seriously he's asking for Saiyans to have SSJ4 AND God Form. Those two don't exist in the same timeline/continuity. Not only that, but it's basically shoving all the other races out the door.

I would want all the Super Saiyan forms if there was no balance. With balance? Clearly no one can even agree to disagree, so perhaps it would be better if Races had no transformations.

Also, you seem to forget that Xenoverse is all about time travel. SSJ God, Blue and 4 could all easily be in the same place, and regardless, there's no proof that Saiyans can't unlock SSJ4 in the main continuity.

Oh sure, because in XV Saiyans having Super Saiyan was an absolute requirement to play them, and now they should get God so they can become better than Goku. When I look at these transformation wants do you know what I constantly say to myself? "They want their character to be better than Goku." Every. Single. Time. I don't want to see my Saiyan character like that. Yeah she can go SSJ3, but you know what? The game just became another source of media I can use her in where she works for the transformation, can use it, and still (by lore and storytelling) be weaker than most of the main Saiyans bar (possibly) Gotenks while nonetheless working together to fight the big bads. THAT'S the kind of content I long for.

And thats the great thing about options... you don't have to make your character better than Goku. You can give whatever transformation you like to your saiyan. Even if the custom saiyans got SSB why would that make them better then Goku anyway?

[Anime Kitten]

At this point, I really don't care what they do for the transformations unless they're not good.

I understand not wanting Saiyans to get everything (as I agree), but you do realize that's how Dragon Ball has always been since Z, don't you?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I don't even want SS4, SSG or SSGSS for avatars, but there's a huge fallacy in your complaint. Dimps' story is going to determine character strength regardless of the transformations included. Your characters are going to surpass everyone and defeat the big bad at the end of the game regardless of if you use transformations or not. Are you honestly telling me that allowing your character to go SSGSS is worse than being able to defeat them in base? What's the bigger Mary Sue option?

[nato25]

I don't even want SS4, SSG or SSGSS for avatars, but there's a huge fallacy in your complaint. Dimps' story is going to determine character strength regardless of the transformations included. Your characters are going to surpass everyone and defeat the big bad at the end of the game regardless of if you use transformations or not. Are you honestly telling me that allowing your character to go SSGSS is worse than being able to defeat them in base? What's the bigger Mary Sue option?

Exactly. In the last game I believe your CaC beat a transformed Demigra who downed SSJ3 Goku with ease.

[dbzfan7]

I don't want to see an army of Gods running around all over the game. I don't want my character to be an unstoppable Mary Sue. I never want to see my character slapping Beerus and Whis like they're bitches, because it undermines the entire theme of the franchise: "There's always someone better than you."

While I don't think we need so many saiyan transformations, I don't understand the last point. I can make Beerus and Whis, Mr. Satan's bitches if I really want to. In Xenoverse 1 I can make Demigra my bitch which Goku couldn't seem to do. You already said we're pretty much Mary/Marty Sue's, which is right. The story at least so far, hasn't really made the time patroller the sole hero who does everything for everyone. Golden Form kinda already is the Freeza God form equivalent to be honest. However by giving the Freeza race that, it does draw more people to it as saiyans don't have that equivalent. So it works out in a strange way honestly.

[z_cherub]

I do want SSJ Blue, though. Even if it doesn't boost attack for balance reasons, maybe it can just make a super move available or something... It's really just the aesthetic of it & knowing that it's the most current transformation in the series.

Budokai nailed it allowing transformations into each "level" without having separate characters - games since then have been hit or miss with that - especially with SSJ4, the Freeza stages and similar.

[Kanassa]

. Golden Form kinda already is the Freeza God form equivalent to be honest.

I always assumed that Golden form would only be a god-equivilent to those from Frieza's family or just Frieza himself. Frieza being born with so much natural power that he had to create other forms to contain it, so in Xenoverse the Frieza race characters we see are already in their final form because they weren't born with that power. So, their Golden form is simply their Super Saiyan as they do not have Frieza's dormant power.

[KentalSSJ6]

I primarily want SSJ4 simply because its my favorite Saiyan form. I'm also guilty of well, really not caring about the other races that much. I like the Freeza race and the humans were fun but I really didnt enjoy or was even that interested in the Namekians and Majins. Their racial stats didnt give you a lot to work with and I couldnt stand their basic moveset. They simply werent fun for me.

So yeah, I prefer Saiyans, always have and probably always will aside from the Freeza race. As TDC pointed out our characters are the strongest simply by existing and rule of plot. Saiyans were also nearly useless in the first game outside of PVE. Also, the stat boosts SSJ gave Saiyans in the first game were kinda pitiful. A measly what, 5% or so? With stuff like Kaio-Ken (which gave a huge boost in comparison) and Potential Unlocked available to all races anyway, what is the harm in giving Saiyans SSJ4, SSGSS, etc? I really see no point not to include them.

[dbzfan7]

. Golden Form kinda already is the Freeza God form equivalent to be honest.

I always assumed that Golden form would only be a god-equivilent to those from Frieza's family or just Frieza himself. Frieza being born with so much natural power that he had to create other forms to contain it, so in Xenoverse the Frieza race characters we see are already in their final form because they weren't born with that power. So, their Golden form is simply their Super Saiyan as they do not have Frieza's dormant power.

I don't think so. It seems to me as a take on Freeza's form, not an SSJ equivalent. That's just my take. Again there is no real logic in the power levels of this game, as it's just a game. Evil Mr. Satan was a challenge to the time patroller for goodness sake. So really I don't really take the comparisons too seriously.

[TekTheNinja]

Not to be rude, but I'm really curious and didn't get an answer to my question so I guess I'll just ask again. Anyone know?

By the way guys, just wondering, why do we believe what Slaythe says again? Is he in close contact with Dimps or something?

[BlazingBarrrager]

I don't even want SS4, SSG or SSGSS for avatars, but there's a huge fallacy in your complaint. Dimps' story is going to determine character strength regardless of the transformations included. Your characters are going to surpass everyone and defeat the big bad at the end of the game regardless of if you use transformations or not. Are you honestly telling me that allowing your character to go SSGSS is worse than being able to defeat them in base? What's the bigger Mary Sue option?

Exactly. In the last game I believe your CaC beat a transformed Demigra who downed SSJ3 Goku with ease.

Gameplay wise, yeah your CaC beats Demigra transformed (he only "downed" SSJ3 Goku with ease because he got distracted by your CaC getting Yamchaed). Storywise, on the other hand, had your CaC either needing extra ki from the Z-Fighters or help from SSJ3 Goku in the final Kame struggle against Demigra. If your CaC got no help, Demigra would have Falcon Punched you and thus kill you.

Seriously as the game progressed we see the growth of our CaC from not being worth killing by Mira to nearly obliterating the bastard in your third fight. By story segregation, our CaC got stronger by training with most of the main cast and gaining more and more experience in doing PQs. However, by all stand points our CaC is stilled outclassed by Beerus, Whis, Goku (post and possibly pre Battle of Gods) and Vegeta to name a few. Giving the Saiyans SS4, SSG, or SSGSS is just a poor way to appease the fanbase and makes no sense whatsoever. Seriously why would, by story standpoint, Goku and co do the ritual for you to get God Form when they have no idea who you are to begin with? If anything, you're just a stranger to them who just so happens to appear out of nowhere when things are looking bleak.

[Zenkashuu]

Not to be rude, but I'm really curious and didn't get an answer to my question so I guess I'll just ask again. Anyone know?

By the way guys, just wondering, why do we believe what Slaythe says again? Is he in close contact with Dimps or something?

We have quoted "all" neogaf in this thread already.

I actually didn't ask anything about the story.

I'm sorry, I really can't care about fake Trunks so I really didn't think about asking about it, haha.

I asked questions that were somewhat relevant to what I heard people had issues with or what I personally wondered about.

They were nice enough to answer about my questions so I didn't want to abuse their kindness and ask for story spoilers or anything too.

[Psycho50501]

Not to be rude, but I'm really curious and didn't get an answer to my question so I guess I'll just ask again. Anyone know?

By the way guys, just wondering, why do we believe what Slaythe says again? Is he in close contact with Dimps or something?

I dont believe him for the simple fact he said they can't recolor due to copyright reasons which is bull. Battle of Z anyone and plus we have seen jaco,vegeta cell, and bardock's outfits all recolored...

[Chelentano]

Not to be rude, but I'm really curious and didn't get an answer to my question so I guess I'll just ask again. Anyone know?

By the way guys, just wondering, why do we believe what Slaythe says again? Is he in close contact with Dimps or something?

I dont believe him for the simple fact he said they can't recolor due to copyright reasons which is bull. Battle of Z anyone and plus we have seen jaco,vegeta cell, and bardock's outfits all recolored...

Well, given the source now I don't believe it either. But the fact that a company had the right to recolour outfits in their game doesn't mean that every company making a DB game can. Every deal has its clauses and they could vary.

[Fresh Prince]

So you can get Goku Black with Deluxe Edition, I'm assuming Collector's as well!

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/drago ... top/132323

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It seems Tiffany B of Gamestop's customer service was indeed incompetent/ill informed, thankfully.

Now, just set up a Deluxe Edition for Steam (hopefully) and I'll be set.

[Alruneia]

Now, just set up a Deluxe Edition for Steam (hopefully) and I'll be set.

This is what I'm waiting for. I'm kinda surprised nothing has appeared on Steam yet.

[miguelnuva1]

The created saiyan avatar has long surpassed Goku. He fought a Super Buu tier opponet twice ast ssj1 or ssj2 and then kept up with Beerus and ssjg at Ssj2. Not to mention the GT side Story.

[Anime Kitten]

I'm also curious as to whether Black Goku will be attainable after pre-orders. Hopefully I can pre-buy mine before they're all gone, or at least pick up a Day One Edition with a code.

[ArchedThunder]

So you can get Goku Black with Deluxe Edition, I'm assuming Collector's as well!

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/drago ... top/132323

The Collector's Edition lists it as well.
The fact that they only just now put that up makes me wonder if Gamestop themselves weren't even sure if those two editions came with it.