"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion of all things related to Dragon Ball video games (console and portable games, arcade versions, etc.) from the entire franchise's history.
User avatar
z_cherub
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 266
Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:55 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by z_cherub » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:46 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I'm also curious as to whether Black Goku will be attainable after pre-orders. Hopefully I can pre-buy mine before they're all gone, or at least pick up a Day One Edition with a code.
Hopefully they learned from SSJ4 Vegeta last time.

Captain Strawberry
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1265
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm
Location: Where I wander

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:01 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:The created saiyan avatar has long surpassed Goku. He fought a Super Buu tier opponet twice ast ssj1 or ssj2 and then kept up with Beerus and ssjg at Ssj2. Not to mention the GT side Story.
After replaying XV1 from the ground up, I can say the parallel quests are canon because of the way they explained it. After mostly likely unlocking his potential by Elder Kai, he can take on SSJB Goku and Vegeta. But the quest is hard so it's probably barely he can beat both of them at the same time .
Kuro Tenshi

I am just a simple traveller

User avatar
miguelnuva1
I Live Here
Posts: 2907
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:23 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by miguelnuva1 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:06 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:The created saiyan avatar has long surpassed Goku. He fought a Super Buu tier opponet twice ast ssj1 or ssj2 and then kept up with Beerus and ssjg at Ssj2. Not to mention the GT side Story.
After replaying XV1 from the ground up, I can say the parallel quests are canon because of the way they explained it. After mostly likely unlocking his potential by Elder Kai, he can take on SSJB Goku and Vegeta. But the quest is hard so it's probably barely he can beat both of them at the same time .
Time Patroller also beat Gokden Frieza and potentially Beerus and whis.

I'm going to just say after unlocking his potential he can fight 100% Beerus or Whis and hold his own simlar to a future Gohan and 17 and 18 gap.
Last edited by miguelnuva1 on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Captain Strawberry
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1265
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm
Location: Where I wander

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:10 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote: Tume Patroller also beat Gokden Frieza and potentially Beerus and whis.

I'm going to just say after unlocking his potential he can fight 100% Beerus or Whis and hold his own simlar to a future Gohan and 17 and 18 gap.
It's not made clear. Even in one of the PQ's where he fights them in space, it doesn't seem like Whis is trying at all.
Kuro Tenshi

I am just a simple traveller

User avatar
miguelnuva1
I Live Here
Posts: 2907
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:23 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by miguelnuva1 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:14 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote: Tume Patroller also beat Gokden Frieza and potentially Beerus and whis.

I'm going to just say after unlocking his potential he can fight 100% Beerus or Whis and hold his own simlar to a future Gohan and 17 and 18 gap.
It's not made clear. Even in one of the PQ's where he fights them in space, it doesn't seem like Whis is trying at all.
Stronger than Golden Frieza snd weaker than Beerus than.

Captain Strawberry
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1265
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm
Location: Where I wander

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:16 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:
Captain Strawberry wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote: Tume Patroller also beat Gokden Frieza and potentially Beerus and whis.

I'm going to just say after unlocking his potential he can fight 100% Beerus or Whis and hold his own simlar to a future Gohan and 17 and 18 gap.
It's not made clear. Even in one of the PQ's where he fights them in space, it doesn't seem like Whis is trying at all.
Stronger than Golden Frieza snd weaker than Beerus than.
I would definitely say stronger than Golden Frieza but really the thing is, XV1's A.I is not that good so we can't really say for certain.
Kuro Tenshi

I am just a simple traveller

User avatar
Kanassa
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 6265
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:57 am

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Kanassa » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:44 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:The created saiyan avatar has long surpassed Goku. He fought a Super Buu tier opponet twice ast ssj1 or ssj2 and then kept up with Beerus and ssjg at Ssj2. Not to mention the GT side Story.
After replaying XV1 from the ground up, I can say the parallel quests are canon because of the way they explained it. After mostly likely unlocking his potential by Elder Kai, he can take on SSJB Goku and Vegeta. But the quest is hard so it's probably barely he can beat both of them at the same time .
Uh, if we take PQs as cannon, we also need to remember that the TP has help in those PQ
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017

Captain Strawberry
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1265
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm
Location: Where I wander

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:37 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Captain Strawberry wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:The created saiyan avatar has long surpassed Goku. He fought a Super Buu tier opponet twice ast ssj1 or ssj2 and then kept up with Beerus and ssjg at Ssj2. Not to mention the GT side Story.
After replaying XV1 from the ground up, I can say the parallel quests are canon because of the way they explained it. After mostly likely unlocking his potential by Elder Kai, he can take on SSJB Goku and Vegeta. But the quest is hard so it's probably barely he can beat both of them at the same time .
Uh, if we take PQs as cannon, we also need to remember that the TP has help in those PQ
maybe
Kuro Tenshi

I am just a simple traveller

Captain Strawberry
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1265
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm
Location: Where I wander

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:08 pm

From Xenoverse 2, it looks like you actually need to spend on ki to actually transform. What do you guys think of this system?
Kuro Tenshi

I am just a simple traveller

Psycho50501
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 108
Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:41 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Psycho50501 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:10 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:From Xenoverse 2, it looks like you actually need to spend on ki to actually transform. What do you guys think of this system?
Better than that SSJ ultimate attack spam bullshit....

dualist
Regular
Posts: 534
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:10 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by dualist » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:35 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:From Xenoverse 2, it looks like you actually need to spend on ki to actually transform. What do you guys think of this system?
I think this is excellent. I like that you have to work for it.
Playing Xenovoerse on PS4
PSN Tag: Dualist721

User avatar
dangerouslover
Newbie
Posts: 20
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:52 am
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by dangerouslover » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:59 pm

I don't count PQs as part of the Story Canon simply because there's no real reference that we can go off to judge it off of. Other than the Dragon Ball Collection missions, TP Trunks doesn't help you plus it's against the model of the Time Patrollers to team up with villains.
Anime Kitten wrote:I'm also curious as to whether Black Goku will be attainable after pre-orders. Hopefully I can pre-buy mine before they're all gone, or at least pick up a Day One Edition with a code.
Most likely way way way way way later than the people who buy it Day One. Personally, I'd rather they kept him as a Day One exclusive. It's not exactly fair to us who are going to be waiting in line and paying full price if you can just get it later.

Captain Strawberry
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1265
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm
Location: Where I wander

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:18 pm

dangerouslover wrote:I don't count PQs as part of the Story Canon simply because there's no real reference that we can go off to judge it off of. Other than the Dragon Ball Collection missions, TP Trunks doesn't help you plus it's against the model of the Time Patrollers to team up with villains.
Anime Kitten wrote:I'm also curious as to whether Black Goku will be attainable after pre-orders. Hopefully I can pre-buy mine before they're all gone, or at least pick up a Day One Edition with a code.
Most likely way way way way way later than the people who buy it Day One. Personally, I'd rather they kept him as a Day One exclusive. It's not exactly fair to us who are going to be waiting in line and paying full price if you can just get it later.
I take it as canon because they give a detailed explanation of why and how they exist.
Kuro Tenshi

I am just a simple traveller

User avatar
BlazingBarrrager
I Live Here
Posts: 2058
Joined: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:07 am
Location: Space USA
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:24 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:From Xenoverse 2, it looks like you actually need to spend on ki to actually transform. What do you guys think of this system?
I don't think you spend ki to transform, but rather you need a specific amount of bars filled to transform. From what we saw in the demo, the CaC transformed into SSJ3 while having all 7 bars of ki filled. I don't know if this was the final product or not, but it would make a whole lot of sense.

Captain Strawberry
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1265
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm
Location: Where I wander

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:34 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:
Captain Strawberry wrote:From Xenoverse 2, it looks like you actually need to spend on ki to actually transform. What do you guys think of this system?
I don't think you spend ki to transform, but rather you need a specific amount of bars filled to transform. From what we saw in the demo, the CaC transformed into SSJ3 while having all 7 bars of ki filled. I don't know if this was the final product or not, but it would make a whole lot of sense.
I hope you actually have to spend some points in ki so it makes it more balanced and has you work more for the power. Like, for a big power up, it adds some sort of negatives to keep it balanced. The only debilitating thing in transformations is you don't get ki from punching so it adds more to balance.
Kuro Tenshi

I am just a simple traveller

User avatar
BlazingBarrrager
I Live Here
Posts: 2058
Joined: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:07 am
Location: Space USA
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:38 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote:
Captain Strawberry wrote:From Xenoverse 2, it looks like you actually need to spend on ki to actually transform. What do you guys think of this system?
I don't think you spend ki to transform, but rather you need a specific amount of bars filled to transform. From what we saw in the demo, the CaC transformed into SSJ3 while having all 7 bars of ki filled. I don't know if this was the final product or not, but it would make a whole lot of sense.
I hope you actually have to spend some points in ki so it makes it more balanced and has you work more for the power. Like, for a big power up, it adds some sort of negatives to keep it balanced. The only debilitating thing in transformations is you don't get ki from punching so it adds more to balance.
You actually have to work for it because you have to invest your points into ki to get to 7 bars just to use the transformation. As for the negatives, that would just make the transformation less practical because your opponent can easily take advantage of this. We also don't even know the boosts the transformations grant yet so it's too early to say.

User avatar
Sora Saiyan
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1084
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:19 am
Location: Destiny Islands

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Sora Saiyan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:48 am

Game.co.uk finally a has the Collectors and Deluxe edition in for anybody that's interested.

User avatar
Captain Space
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1520
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:52 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Space » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:45 am

Kanassa wrote:
Captain Strawberry wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:The created saiyan avatar has long surpassed Goku. He fought a Super Buu tier opponet twice ast ssj1 or ssj2 and then kept up with Beerus and ssjg at Ssj2. Not to mention the GT side Story.
After replaying XV1 from the ground up, I can say the parallel quests are canon because of the way they explained it. After mostly likely unlocking his potential by Elder Kai, he can take on SSJB Goku and Vegeta. But the quest is hard so it's probably barely he can beat both of them at the same time .
Uh, if we take PQs as cannon, we also need to remember that the TP has help in those PQ
I mean, SSJ1/2 isn't even the relevant thing, even if the avatar is human s/he has done the exact same thing and fought the same foes. Also, that can be just on base power without an Elder Kai unlock, as THAT is a separate thing you can get in the game but don't have to to beat the missions.

Also, you can do the PQs alone, and only some of them have default extra allies.

Endgame CaC is hella stronk.
"Actually I didn’t know what Bulma’s real hair color was" --Toriyama

Captain Strawberry
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1265
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm
Location: Where I wander

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:34 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote: You actually have to work for it because you have to invest your points into ki to get to 7 bars just to use the transformation. As for the negatives, that would just make the transformation less practical because your opponent can easily take advantage of this. We also don't even know the boosts the transformations grant yet so it's too early to say.
Now I think about it, it would make everyones or a lot of people's builds less overpowered because they would have to distribute points into other things.
Kuro Tenshi

I am just a simple traveller

User avatar
BlazingBarrrager
I Live Here
Posts: 2058
Joined: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:07 am
Location: Space USA
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:25 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote: You actually have to work for it because you have to invest your points into ki to get to 7 bars just to use the transformation. As for the negatives, that would just make the transformation less practical because your opponent can easily take advantage of this. We also don't even know the boosts the transformations grant yet so it's too early to say.
Now I think about it, it would make everyones or a lot of people's builds less overpowered because they would have to distribute points into other things.
Exactly, and with clothing not offering the same amount of stat boosts as in XV you would have to contribute a lot of your points into ki to use SSJ3. For all we know, it could be a situation of "Awesome, but Impractical."

Post Reply