FUNimation & Dragon Ball Super licensing hold up

[Hellspawn28]

My guess is FUNI won't get the license to dub Super. TOEI is probably evaluating their opportunities to let another company dub Super instead for more royalities.

It'll piss off dub fans who want to hear the same voices like Chris Sabat and Sean Schemmel again, but business is business. My guess is Toei is done with Funi in terms of future dubs.

They said multiple times that they were talking to Toei about it.

Yeah since things take time. People seem to forget how long the wait for GT to come out in the US was.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58PrXM82Bs#t=15m54s

Sean basically says it is the same process as licensing a new anime and FUNi have/are flying out to Japan etc and have been working hard on trying to get it. Also in said video somewhere he mentions he was last person to finish recording Kai (6 weeks he said Q and A was on Apr 9th so around early March) so looks like Kai should be out soon!

[coola]

Guess that's true, even if you have licence for one part of franchise, doesn't mean you have for others? Like with Love live, Season 1 and 2 was licensed by Sntai Filmworks, while Funimation got Love Live Sunshine.

[SaiyamanMS]

Guess that's true, even if you have licence for one part of franchise, doesn't mean you have for others? Like with Love live, Season 1 and 2 was licensed by Sntai Filmworks, while Funimation got Love Live Sunshine.

The original Love Live! was actually licenced by NIS America, not Sentai Filmworks. (Although, the actual point still stands.)

If Funimation don't license this show, I will eat the hat I am wearing. In the minuscule chance that someone else like Viz or Crunchyroll get the show, I bet a million bucks that they'd hire Okratron to get Sabat and the rest of the current crew back. Dragon Ball basically prints money at this point and an incredible portion of the English speaking fanbase only like the English voices, who have been playing these characters for about 17 years now. Why would they want to unnecessarily rock the boat?

In my opinion, the only reason we don't have Super (Or Final Chapters) yet is because Toei are probably holding out for a TV broadcast for some inane archaic reason. I mean, everywhere that actually has the Buu arc of Kai actually aired it on TV first, right?

[Hellspawn28]

It's better to get Super late than never. If we get it late, at least Funimation does not have to rush the dub. They said at A-Kon last year that they want the dub for Super to be perfect as possible.

[Lord Beerus]

It's better to get Super late than never. If we get it late, at least Funimation does not have to rush the dub. They said at A-Kon last year that they want the dub for Super to be perfect as possible.

I wouldn't mind waiting for Super if it means the dub for it will be damn near perfect.

[DBZ_Lee]

It's better to get Super late than never. If we get it late, at least Funimation does not have to rush the dub. They said at A-Kon last year that they want the dub for Super to be perfect as possible.

I wouldn't mind waiting for Super if it means the dub for it will be damn near perfect.

I don't see why the dub wouldn't be perfect if it were started before the end of the year.
There's no rush needed, and anyway, a TV deal is essential for Toei, so it will have to be aired, so the same deadlines will remain whether the dub occurs now, or in 2 years.
I honestly cannot see why a dub would be any better later down the line.
All VA's are pros, and want to do their jobs to the best of their ability.

[ryou766]

Pretty good fan dub edit of Black's entrance. I could see Schemmel's portrayal fitting perfectly.

[Lord Beerus]

Pretty good fan dub edit of Black's entrance. I could see Schemmel's portrayal fitting perfectly.

That sounds fantastic. It just adds to the cause that Schemmel could, and should, play Goku Black. It really could work.

[Crinchy]

I'm still at a loss as to why people somehow think FUNimation isn't doing everything in their power to secure the series.

Dragon Ball is what has effectively sustained them as a company since their inception, and let them coast nicely through what destroyed almost everyone else on the block during the American anime and economy bubble. Under no circumstances would anyone in charge at that company be doing anything other than negotiating and preparing for their license of the franchise's newest series.

In any case where some new production somehow doesn't get a dub or release through them (either at all like the JSAT special or simply not yet like Super), there's no scenario in which FUNimation didn't WANT it.

Exactly my sentiments.

And for those that believe Super will air after the Cell arc, that would not happen in my opinion as it would confuse the small amount of people watching Kai that have never seen the Boo arc, and wouldn't be a good idea. I simply believe they are attempting, for continuity reasons, to air the episodes sequentially.

Maybe one day Toonami will decide to air multiple "new" episodes of Kai in the block to speed the process.

[precita]

The thing is there's just not as much demand for the dub as their used to be. Hardcore fans watch it in Japanese and don't bother with the dub, and most of the casuals from a decade ago have outgrown the series and moved on. The few who caught Kai dubbed hated it because "the voices didn't sound the same as they remembered."

If the people who hated the Kai dub were those old Toonami DBZ fans from the 90's and early 2000's...they certainly won't like a Super dub. Oddly enough they dislike Chris Sabat's current Vegeta and Piccolo voice and want him to sound like he did back in the Cell and Buu saga of DBZ.

Also didn't people complain Future Trunks voice in Xenoverse sounded bad? I'm not sure Future Trunks can even have a good dub voice anymore unless he's recasted.

[Crinchy]

The thing is there's just not as much demand for the dub as their used to be. Hardcore fans watch it in Japanese and don't bother with the dub, and most of the casuals from a decade ago have outgrown the series and moved on. The few who caught Kai dubbed hated it because "the voices didn't sound the same as they remembered."

If the people who hated the Kai dub were those old Toonami DBZ fans from the 90's and early 2000's...they certainly won't like a Super dub. Oddly enough they dislike Chris Sabat's current Vegeta and Piccolo voice and want him to sound like he did back in the Cell and Buu saga of DBZ.

Also didn't people complain Future Trunks voice in Xenoverse sounded bad? I'm not sure Future Trunks can even have a good dub voice anymore unless he's recasted.

The ratings and money I believe would tell you otherwise.

[precita]

I seriously doubt ratings will be that good today. Most kids nowadays don't even watch TV, they use youtube and their ipads or watch online.

The world is a different place than it was in the late 90's and early 2000's when DBZ originally aired.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

The thing is there's just not as much demand for the dub as their used to be. Hardcore fans watch it in Japanese and don't bother with the dub, and most of the casuals from a decade ago have outgrown the series and moved on. The few who caught Kai dubbed hated it because "the voices didn't sound the same as they remembered."

If the people who hated the Kai dub were those old Toonami DBZ fans from the 90's and early 2000's...they certainly won't like a Super dub. Oddly enough they dislike Chris Sabat's current Vegeta and Piccolo voice and want him to sound like he did back in the Cell and Buu saga of DBZ.

Also didn't people complain Future Trunks voice in Xenoverse sounded bad? I'm not sure Future Trunks can even have a good dub voice anymore unless he's recasted.

I disagree there is demand to the point Sabat has to add something about Super in his Twitter bio. Secondly FUNi get Super licensed is good for the hardcore sub fans as they can buy and support the show without spending mega amounts of money importing from Japan. Thirdly, FUNi pretty much dubbed BoG and "F" like Kai (sure there were discrepancies like narrator but they were minor) nobody complained (as in not buying or supporting the product people may have complained verbally but point is they still supported the product) and in turn they especially Resurrection "F" did incredibly well in all English dub places, USA UK and Aus. I do think the movie dubs are even better than Kai dubs, if Super was dubbed at that level I don't think hardly anyone would complain.

[namekiansaiyan]

The thing is there's just not as much demand for the dub as their used to be. Hardcore fans watch it in Japanese and don't bother with the dub, and most of the casuals from a decade ago have outgrown the series and moved on. The few who caught Kai dubbed hated it because "the voices didn't sound the same as they remembered."

If the people who hated the Kai dub were those old Toonami DBZ fans from the 90's and early 2000's...they certainly won't like a Super dub. Oddly enough they dislike Chris Sabat's current Vegeta and Piccolo voice and want him to sound like he did back in the Cell and Buu saga of DBZ.



Also didn't people complain Future Trunks voice in Xenoverse sounded bad? I'm not sure Future Trunks can even have a good dub voice anymore unless he's recasted.

You are crazy if you think there is not a lot of demand for a dub. If there is not demand for a dub of Dragon ball then there will not be for anything other show. The majority of fans will always prefer it dubbed.

[linkdude20002001]

Also didn't people complain Future Trunks voice in Xenoverse sounded bad? I'm not sure Future Trunks can even have a good dub voice anymore unless he's recasted.

He shouldn't be recast. He just needs to not try to sound like Vegeta. That was some horrible direction they're been giving him since Kai.

[Hellspawn28]

If the people who hated the Kai dub were those old Toonami DBZ fans from the 90's and early 2000's...they certainly won't like a Super dub.

You had people hating on the DBZ dub on Toonami from 1999-2003 too. With people asking for Ocean to come back. Not to mention, you also had people who hated how Toonami edit out all of the violence and swearing. That people on the web act like DBZ was so hardcore in Japanese. So it's nothing new. People are always going to dislike something and nothing we can do about it. The nostalgia fanboys always have the past to enjoy if you don't like the new stuff.

[DBZ_Lee]

I know this interview is about the European market, but I think it is clear that Toei as a company is wanting Super to air on children's networks.

The timeslot of Toonami's current block just isn't appropriate for the demographic they are trying to reach.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I know this interview is about the European market, but I think it is clear that Toei as a company is wanting Super to air on children's networks.

The timeslot of Toonami's current block just isn't appropriate for the demographic they are trying to reach.

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What do they mean by developing categories on the licensing side?

[DBZ_Lee]

At this moment in time, there is no dub. So when should we realistically expect it?.
I would assume, if we are very lucky, Funimation license it by the end of the year, and dubbing starts early 2017, with the hope it comes out in time for Summer next year.