Who should beat Black?

[Lord Beerus]

should be vegeta, but it will be goku

Why should it be Vegeta? What personal connection does Vegeta have with Goku Black?

[jplaya2023]

should be vegeta, but it will be goku

Why should it be Vegeta? What personal connection does Vegeta have with Goku Black?

the fact that black has been beating the piss out of his son for the last year or so wouldn't indicate his connection to black?

Also it will satisy vegeta's ire of "killing" goku.

2 birds one stone.

Vegeta hasn't killed any major villian throughout Z. Let him have 1

[sintzu]

should be vegeta, but it will be goku

Why should it be Vegeta? What personal connection does Vegeta have with Goku Black?

the fact that black has been beating the piss out of his son for the last year or so wouldn't indicate his connection to black?

Also it will satisfy vegeta's ire of "killing" goku.

2 birds one stone.

Vegeta hasn't killed any major villian throughout Z. Let him have 1

He also killed Vegeta's future wife.

[Kishido]

should be vegeta, but it will be goku

Why should it be Vegeta? What personal connection does Vegeta have with Goku Black?

Have you seen the last 3 episodes? Vegeta is pissed to the max.

His hate level is easily over 9000. While Goku jsut wants to fight Black for fun so far Vegeta already is super hyped... Same goes for Trunks.

Can't wait for the chapter Vegeta is taking him to training.

[Lord Beerus]

Have you seen the last 3 episodes? Vegeta is pissed to the max.

His hate level is easily over 9000. While Goku jsut wants to fight Black for fun so far Vegeta already is super hyped... Same goes for Trunks.

Can't wait for the chapter Vegeta is taking him to training.

Vegeta's usually pissed off or angry about everything.

the fact that black has been beating the piss out of his son for the last year or so wouldn't indicate his connection to black?

Also it will satisy vegeta's ire of "killing" goku.

2 birds one stone.

Vegeta hasn't killed any major villian throughout Z. Let him have 1

He also killed Vegeta's future wife.

By that virtue, the Pilaf Gang should take down Goku Black given what he did to Future Mai. Plus, Vegeta got over his desire to kill Goku after coming back to life in the Majin Boo arc and having his epiphany during the SSJ3 Goku/Kid Boo battle.

[z_cherub]

Have you seen the last 3 episodes? Vegeta is pissed to the max.

His hate level is easily over 9000. While Goku jsut wants to fight Black for fun so far Vegeta already is super hyped... Same goes for Trunks.

Can't wait for the chapter Vegeta is taking him to training.

Vegeta's usually pissed off or angry about everything.

the fact that black has been beating the piss out of his son for the last year or so wouldn't indicate his connection to black?

Also it will satisy vegeta's ire of "killing" goku.

2 birds one stone.

Vegeta hasn't killed any major villian throughout Z. Let him have 1

He also killed Vegeta's future wife.

By that virtue, the Pilaf Gang should take down Goku Black given what he did to Future Mai. Plus, Vegeta got over his desire to kill Goku after coming back to life in the Majin Boo arc and having his epiphany during the SSJ3 Goku/Kid Boo battle.

Agreed. Also, Vegeta wouldn't be satisfied with "beating Goku" via black since, so far, he's been shown to be much weaker than Goku's current peak.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

What if it gets to the point where Black feels he has no choice and kills himself.? So I say Black.

Or my previous comment that Trunks kills Black but ends up killing himself too. And that's the beginning of the split between Goku and Vegeta's family. Vegeta starts to become domesticated and gives up fighting (Vegeta was pretty upset that Goku sacrificed himself to save the world imagine when his own Son does it) meanwhile Goku continues to travel with Beerus and Whis hence why he didn't bother contacting Bulma etc. Super will see a new gang Goku travels with and adventures around maybe some of the U6 team? Maybe Hit will be the new Vegeta?

[Kishido]

Have you seen the last 3 episodes? Vegeta is pissed to the max.

His hate level is easily over 9000. While Goku jsut wants to fight Black for fun so far Vegeta already is super hyped... Same goes for Trunks.

Can't wait for the chapter Vegeta is taking him to training.

Vegeta's usually pissed off or angry about everything.

the fact that black has been beating the piss out of his son for the last year or so wouldn't indicate his connection to black?

Also it will satisy vegeta's ire of "killing" goku.

2 birds one stone.

Vegeta hasn't killed any major villian throughout Z. Let him have 1

He also killed Vegeta's future wife.

By that virtue, the Pilaf Gang should take down Goku Black given what he did to Future Mai. Plus, Vegeta got over his desire to kill Goku after coming back to life in the Majin Boo arc and having his epiphany during the SSJ3 Goku/Kid Boo battle.

Please you know it is something different to the usual pissed Vegeta and he even pointed his family of the future out in this episode.

And really... You compare it to Pilaf?

Of course he won't beat Black but just saying

[ryou766]

should be vegeta, but it will be goku

Why should it be Vegeta? What personal connection does Vegeta have with Goku Black?

Black had attacked HIS family. He had killed Mirai Bulma and had made Mirai Trunks go through (presumably) years of pain while putting his future in carnage. While they are the future counterparts of his wife and son, they are still family nonetheless and he cares about them as much as he does the present timeline versions.

Goku merely wants to fight Black for sport, whereas Trunks and Vegeta are out for a personal vendetta against him.

[namekiansaiyan]

should be vegeta, but it will be goku

Why should it be Vegeta? What personal connection does Vegeta have with Goku Black?

Black had attacked HIS family. He had killed Mirai Bulma and had made Mirai Trunks go through (presumably) years of pain while putting his future in carnage. While they are the future counterparts of his wife and son, they are still family nonetheless and he cares about them as much as he does the present timeline versions.

Goku merely wants to fight Black for sport, whereas Trunks and Vegeta are out for a personal vendetta against him.

You are analysing it too much and I still think it will be a team victory.

[ryou766]

Analysing too much? It's a proven fact. Trunks wants to defeat Black for what he has done and even swore to Gohan that he'd finish him. Vegeta, while in the gravity room, swore vengeance on Black for what he did to his family.

Meanwhile, Goku remained outside, clueless to Vegeta's anger. Team victory? I said so in the earlier page, but Goku would have no involvement. This should be Vegeta and Trunks' win.

[jplaya2023]

Why should it be Vegeta? What personal connection does Vegeta have with Goku Black?

Black had attacked HIS family. He had killed Mirai Bulma and had made Mirai Trunks go through (presumably) years of pain while putting his future in carnage. While they are the future counterparts of his wife and son, they are still family nonetheless and he cares about them as much as he does the present timeline versions.

Goku merely wants to fight Black for sport, whereas Trunks and Vegeta are out for a personal vendetta against him.

You are analysing it too much and I still think it will be a team victory.

goku and vegeta don't fight as a team

[namekiansaiyan]

Analysing too much? It's a proven fact. Trunks wants to defeat Black for what he has done and even swore to Gohan that he'd finish him. Vegeta, while in the gravity room, swore vengeance on Black for what he did to his family.

Meanwhile, Goku remained outside, clueless to Vegeta's anger. Team victory? I said so in the earlier page, but Goku would have no involvement. This should be Vegeta and Trunks' win.

At least someone outside those 3 will be involved and Vegeta will not do it by himself.

Vegeta is always angry and Goku never noticed anything.

Black had attacked HIS family. He had killed Mirai Bulma and had made Mirai Trunks go through (presumably) years of pain while putting his future in carnage. While they are the future counterparts of his wife and son, they are still family nonetheless and he cares about them as much as he does the present timeline versions.

Goku merely wants to fight Black for sport, whereas Trunks and Vegeta are out for a personal vendetta against him.

You are analysing it too much and I still think it will be a team victory.

goku and vegeta don't fight as a team

It won't just be them 2.

[ryou766]

At least someone outside those 3 will be involved and Vegeta will not do it by himself.

Obviously. But the finishing blow should belong to Trunks.

Vegeta is always angry and Goku never noticed anything.

... Except that we actually have a reasonable reason as to WHY Vegeta is frustrated in the first place.

[sintzu]

Analysing too much? It's a proven fact. Trunks wants to defeat Black for what he has done and even swore to Gohan that he'd finish him. Vegeta, while in the gravity room, swore vengeance on Black for what he did to his family.

Meanwhile, Goku remained outside, clueless to Vegeta's anger. Team victory? I said so in the earlier page, but Goku would have no involvement. This should be Vegeta and Trunks' win.

You make good points but I'm not sure the writers will want to do something that different.

Look at RF, that should've been a Vegeta centered movie but instead he was pushed to the side in favor of Goku which is why I like its arc better cause it didn't do that.

The Champa arc is another example of this, they had a great opportunity to bring Piccolo back but instead they threw him to the side in favor of Vegeta.

One possibility fans were hoping for was Gohan coming back and helping Trunks put him down but that obviously won't happen so we're down to a team up between him and Vegeta which might happen but I won't be surprised if they have Goku come in the last minute and finish him off.

[Kishido]

Analysing too much? It's a proven fact. Trunks wants to defeat Black for what he has done and even swore to Gohan that he'd finish him. Vegeta, while in the gravity room, swore vengeance on Black for what he did to his family.

Meanwhile, Goku remained outside, clueless to Vegeta's anger. Team victory? I said so in the earlier page, but Goku would have no involvement. This should be Vegeta and Trunks' win.

You make good points but I'm not sure the writers will want to do something that different.

Look at RF, that should've been a Vegeta centered movie but instead he was pushed to the side in favor of Goku which is why I like its arc better cause it didn't do that.

The Champa arc is another example of this, they had a great opportunity to bring Piccolo back but instead they threw him to the side in favor of Vegeta.

One possibility fans were hoping for was Gohan coming back and helping Trunks put him down but that obviously won't happen so we're down to a team up between him and Vegeta which might happen but I won't be surprised if they have Goku come in the last minute and finish him off.

Yeah that's why we will see Goku doing it as always. No hopes left.

But again. Comparing Vegeta is always angry to the Vegeta being right now is just ridiculous.

And this time Super actually did it well showing his anger mentioning his family as reason

[sintzu]

Yeah that's why we will see Goku doing it as always. No hopes left.

I'm not against Goku getting the spotlight, the problem I have is them making stories that fit to be centered around other characters but forcing him in them just because he's the main character.

Why was Goku the one who tested Trunks' power ? wouldn't it have made more sense for Vegeta to do it ?

Why was Goku the one who fought Black first ? wouldn't it have made more sense for Vegeta to fight him considering he killed his future wife and nearly his son ?

It would be like Batman finding out someone else was behind his parents' murder but instead of taking care if it himself he'd stand on the sideline and let Aquaman take care of it.

[Kishido]

Yeah that's why we will see Goku doing it as always. No hopes left.

I'm not against Goku getting the spotlight, the problem I have is them making stories that fit to be centered around other characters but forcing him in them just because he's the main character.

Why was Goku the one who tested Trunks' power ? wouldn't it have made more sense for Vegeta to do it ?

Why was Goku the one who fought Black first ? wouldn't it have made more sense for Vegeta to fight him considering he killed his future wife and nearly his son ?

It would be like Batman finding out someone else was behind his parents' murder but instead of taking care if it himself he'd stand on the sideline and let Aquaman take care of it.

Cuz main hero... Sad as it is

[Doctor.]

Bulma or Future Bulma with some kind of device.

Because why not?

[Lord Beerus]

Bulma or Future Bulma with some kind of device.

Because why not?

But Future Bulma is dead.