"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:46 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:While I don't think we need so many saiyan transformations, I don't understand the last point. I can make Beerus and Whis, Mr. Satan's bitches if I really want to. In Xenoverse 1 I can make Demigra my bitch which Goku couldn't seem to do. You already said we're pretty much Mary/Marty Sue's, which is right. The story at least so far, hasn't really made the time patroller the sole hero who does everything for everyone..
How exactly do you make a game centered around the dependence on the protagonist, balanced with the rest of the series universe and power level balance? The only way I could see it, is if somehow the CPUs were always levels above you in story mode or that you play as other characters in certain moments while your character is on the side or AI controlled. Beyond that, I don't know how they couldn't make your character a Mary-Sue to the narrative.
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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:00 am

Wow, people are actually pissed that their character is stronger than their opponents... It's like nobody ever played Final Fantasy or other RPG, because your character simply is the strongest character in the game universe.
It would be somehow silly if not. I just don't understand that at all. Maybe, sometimes, venture off on a little trip out of the Dragon Ball in-universe realm and the world will be great again :)
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Post by donkeyjack » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:41 am

MCDaveG wrote:Wow, people are actually pissed that their character is stronger than their opponents... It's like nobody ever played Final Fantasy or other RPG, because your character simply is the strongest character in the game universe.
It would be somehow silly if not. I just don't understand that at all. Maybe, sometimes, venture off on a little trip out of the Dragon Ball in-universe realm and the world will be great again :)

This is a fighting game.

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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:18 am

donkeyjack wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:Wow, people are actually pissed that their character is stronger than their opponents... It's like nobody ever played Final Fantasy or other RPG, because your character simply is the strongest character in the game universe.
It would be somehow silly if not. I just don't understand that at all. Maybe, sometimes, venture off on a little trip out of the Dragon Ball in-universe realm and the world will be great again :)
This is a fighting game.
Yeah, with RPG elements, you have to cope with that :)
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Post by Kanassa » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:18 am

MCDaveG wrote:It's like nobody ever played Final Fantasy or other RPG, because your character simply is the strongest character in the game universe.
Yeah, clearly you havn't played Final Fantasy or most RPGs
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Zenkashuu » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:48 am

MCDaveG wrote:Wow, people are actually pissed that their character is stronger than their opponents... It's like nobody ever played Final Fantasy or other RPG, because your character simply is the strongest character in the game universe.
It would be somehow silly if not. I just don't understand that at all. Maybe, sometimes, venture off on a little trip out of the Dragon Ball in-universe realm and the world will be great again :)
I believe that tells much about anime gaming communities in general.

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Post by Rinsankajugin » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:29 pm

Leaks should be dropping either later tonight or tomorrow, so keep your eyes out for something.

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Post by Spenzer » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:32 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote:Leaks should be dropping either later tonight or tomorrow, so keep your eyes out for something.
I hope we get it tonight.
I seriously hope we get something good!

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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:54 pm

Something I noticed from PQs in the first game was SSJ God Goku typically had x10 Kamehameha, while in his only moveset, it was plain ol' Kamehameha. I'm hoping we get the x10 as usuable on SSJ God Goku this time, because the red fits so well with Super Saiyan God.

As for the leaks, I'm still hoping for more original stuff and less custom character stuff.
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Post by supersaiyan DbZ fan » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:16 pm

This has been something a noticed long ago with XV1 but only remembered now
Has our AI teammates in any PQ, free battle or story mission ever fired an ultimate attack?
I have never seen it happen.
I want to see the co-op AI as well the opponent AI use all their abilities.
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Post by Fresh Prince » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:14 pm

I hope we see Hit, Vados and Champa as wishes for Gathering the Dragon Balls.
Hit's skills would be Melee skills that involve the timeskip technique, he'll have one skill which is that finger beam we saw in the Dragon Ball Super opening.
Vados and Champa could have their techniques from Dragon Ball Heroes.
One little thing I hope for SSGSS Vegeta I hope he has God Final Flash, the two colors together look good.

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:17 pm

supersaiyan DbZ fan wrote: AND GIVE US A GODDAMN DIFFICULTY SETTING!! :x :x
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:33 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote:Leaks should be dropping either later tonight or tomorrow, so keep your eyes out for something.
Let's hope, but don't count your chickens before they hatch. Remember, last month we had to wait till release.
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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:44 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Something I noticed from PQs in the first game was SSJ God Goku typically had x10 Kamehameha, while in his only moveset, it was plain ol' Kamehameha. I'm hoping we get the x10 as usuable on SSJ God Goku this time, because the red fits so well with Super Saiyan God.

As for the leaks, I'm still hoping for more original stuff and less custom character stuff.
This happened a lot. Goku being in SSJ while wearing his dogi without the emblem was done a lot, yet ingame it's replaced with SSJ2. Also a lot of times you fight him while he's usually SSJ has him in tattered clothing, which doesn't make a lot of sense either (sparring with him is a major example).
MCDaveG wrote:Wow, people are actually pissed that their character is stronger than their opponents... It's like nobody ever played Final Fantasy or other RPG, because your character simply is the strongest character in the game universe.
It would be somehow silly if not. I just don't understand that at all. Maybe, sometimes, venture off on a little trip out of the Dragon Ball in-universe realm and the world will be great again :)
Yeeeeeeeah that's only through gameplay. Story wise, your CaC still doesn't come up to Lord Beerus and Whis' level (the cutscene where Evil!Beerus charging his attack in story mode is an example since you see your character panicking).

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Post by Kanassa » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:42 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:Wow, people are actually pissed that their character is stronger than their opponents... It's like nobody ever played Final Fantasy or other RPG, because your character simply is the strongest character in the game universe.
It would be somehow silly if not. I just don't understand that at all. Maybe, sometimes, venture off on a little trip out of the Dragon Ball in-universe realm and the world will be great again :)
Yeeeeeeeah that's only through gameplay. Story wise, your CaC still doesn't come up to Lord Beerus and Whis' level (the cutscene where Evil!Beerus charging his attack in story mode is an example since you see your character panicking).
Plus, with Demigra you would of died without help. And Beerus himself saids you are not as strong as Goku or Vegeta, but you would be getting close.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:37 pm

Kanassa wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:Wow, people are actually pissed that their character is stronger than their opponents... It's like nobody ever played Final Fantasy or other RPG, because your character simply is the strongest character in the game universe.
It would be somehow silly if not. I just don't understand that at all. Maybe, sometimes, venture off on a little trip out of the Dragon Ball in-universe realm and the world will be great again :)
Yeeeeeeeah that's only through gameplay. Story wise, your CaC still doesn't come up to Lord Beerus and Whis' level (the cutscene where Evil!Beerus charging his attack in story mode is an example since you see your character panicking).
Plus, with Demigra you would of died without help. And Beerus himself saids you are not as strong as Goku or Vegeta, but you would be getting close.
You're also the only reason SSJ3 Goku went down from Demigra's staff attack showing that you're not to his level, and yeah if Toki Toki didn't step in you'd be screwed.

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Post by Captain Space » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:18 pm

Okay, but, whatever the character's power as far as the story says...again, this is not at ALL dependent on race. Like...s/he is at the same closing-in-on-Goku/Vegeta-but-not-there-yet level whether a human, Namekian, non-super saiyan, or Super Saiyan 2. So given that, adding more saiyan transformations wouldn't make your character automatically on/above their level any more than being a Majin or whatever would.
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Post by Captain Strawberry » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:03 pm

No Xenoverse 2 news???? :(
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:07 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:No Xenoverse 2 news???? :(
Nope. It's been quiet recently.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:36 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:No Xenoverse 2 news???? :(
Yet.

Super's chapter leaked today so someone has the magazine which means it's only a matter of time before we get the new info (assuming there's new info).
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