How Would You Have Done It?

[Beyond]

It's apparent that a lot of people have gripes with Super for various reasons, so pick a part of super you thought was poorly handled and explain how you would done it.

For me, I would have changed a lot of the U6 arc and made it more about the side characters. I would have made the entire U6 team have members of varying power levels to match the U7 team, so we could have a bunch of good fights. The gimmick factor would still be there, but Monaka wouldn't be. I'd probably replace him with Gohan. I imagine Gohan vs an non evil Frost would actually be pretty good. Gohan could have learned a lot from Frost.

[kinisking]

I'd keep Monaka just because he trolled the entire fanbase lmao. Wouldn't trade that even for gohan xD.

Id make gohan, piccolo, tien and krillin train with whis after freeza. Technically piccolo is around super saiyan level (honestly I like to think he's closer to ss2 at this point ) , and since ssb is just super saiyan with God ki wouldn't that mean piccolo with God ki would be around that level? Then I'd have Gohan be around their level but he wouldn't get way ahead because he can't train all the time like they can. This is what I realistically think should have happened but this is a what would you change so the next paragraph is literally going to be my fan dreams.


Whis points out that krillin and tien both have a super human form that they can unlock. This along with God ki also puts them at goku and vegetas level. Later this form mixed with ssb can also be a power up for Gohan. Piccolo will be a super namekian God, tien and krillin will be super human gods, gohan will have a hybrid God form.

In the future trunks arc, there would be black versions of them all. They'd have to beat them and overcome their greatest flaws in the process.

[404FILENOTFOUND]

I would get rid of the retelling of BoG and RoF and start out Super how Kai started out where they explained what happened before in five or so minutes with maybe a little extra content and begin the series with the tournament. Little changes such as Goku and Vegeta sticking to their training uniforms or swapping how the fight against Hit in the anime happened with how it happened in the manga.

[Boo Machine]

I'd keep Monaka just because he trolled the entire fanbase lmao. Wouldn't trade that even for gohan xD.

Id make gohan, piccolo, tien and krillin train with whis after freeza. Technically piccolo is around super saiyan level (honestly I like to think he's closer to ss2 at this point ) , and since ssb is just super saiyan with God ki wouldn't that mean piccolo with God ki would be around that level? Then I'd have Gohan be around their level but he wouldn't get way ahead because he can't train all the time like they can. This is what I realistically think should have happened but this is a what would you change so the next paragraph is literally going to be my fan dreams.


Whis points out that krillin and tien both have a super human form that they can unlock. This along with God ki also puts them at goku and vegetas level. Later this form mixed with ssb can also be a power up for Gohan. Piccolo will be a super namekian God, tien and krillin will be super human gods, gohan will have a hybrid God form.

In the future trunks arc, there would be black versions of them all. They'd have to beat them and overcome their greatest flaws in the process.

Not a huge fan of the idea that everyone becomes some sort of god or having there be multiple black versions of everyone.

But I do agree it would be nice to have a fight that someone other than goku and vegeta can get involved. I don't think anyone really has to become a god to fight. One piece has weaker characters than luffy fight all the time because their are usually more than one villain in any given arc. Besides the bad animation I thought this was the goldens Freeza arc's, weakness. It would have been so much cooler to keep Shisami alive and have him fight piccolo like in them movie and gohan fight Tagoma, Or something to that effect.

I also would have had Majin buu have a turn in the Tournament. Just to see how anyone deal with him or even recognize him in any way, like if they had their own version of Buu.

[Boo Machine]

Whis points out that krillin and tien both have a super human form that they can unlock. .

Also can you tell me where this happens? I'm not sure if I missed something or not, but I don't recall this.

[kinisking]

Whis points out that krillin and tien both have a super human form that they can unlock. .

Also can you tell me where this happens? I'm not sure if I missed something or not, but I don't recall this.

It didn't. It's something I want to happen lol. Definitely not expecting it though

[Boo Machine]

Whis points out that krillin and tien both have a super human form that they can unlock. .

Also can you tell me where this happens? I'm not sure if I missed something or not, but I don't recall this.

It didn't. It's something I want to happen lol. Definitely not expecting it though

Oh! Well then My bad. I guess I can't read correctly today.

[sintzu]

I'd start it with RF.

Champa is introduced before Freeza is revived and they talk about their yearly tournament.

Beerus can't decide on what he'd use the Super Dragon Balls for so they can't agree on a date.

There would be more personal interactions between him and Vegeta and Vegeta decides to fight him in his 4th form instead of Goku but Goku stops him cause he knows he wants to kill him so Vegeta agrees to let Goku fight instead before doing so.

The arc would end with earth blowing up and everyone including Vegeta who Goku saved before the explosion go to Namek to bring it back.

The Kais already used the dragon balls to separate so Beerus decides that bringing back his earth is what they'll fight over in the tournament.

They find out that Buu is floating around in space so they pick him up.

Frost would be replaced with someone completely new.

Buu would fight and win against Botamo, Piccolo would fight and win against the new character, Vegeta would fight and win against both Maggeta and Cabba & Goku would step down against Hit and leave it to Monaka like he did in the arc.

Earth is brought back & the 12 universe tournament is announced but Freeza is still alive and he says he'll find away to travel to another universe and train under someone as strong as Beerus and come back with a new, stronger army.

I'd also get rid of the Pilaf gang and the Beerus & Whis food scenes and everyone would act and look how they did at the end of the Buu arc.

[The_Destroyer]

I would get rid of the evil Frost twist. I would still have him cheat, but only because he wanted to help the kids. He feels guilty and admits that he cheated, allowing Goku and Piccolo to fight again.
I'd also maybe make it a 6v6, have Piccolo beat Frost, but lose to the new guy. Vegeta then beats the new guy and gets three consecutive wins. He losses to Hit. Just as Monaka is about to enter the fray, Frost admits he cheated, and Goku fights Hit.

[Lord Beerus]

You know that fantastic Super Cut of Resurrection F that Ajay put together? Yeah, spilt and edit that cut into episodes and that is how the Ressrection F retelling would have, and should have, panned out for me. It may have turned out to be only roughly 6 episodes long, but it would have been far more cohesive and way less of a slog to get though than the absolute shite that Super put together for that movie's retelling.

[Lord Frieza]

People complain about the remake arc but in all honesty there are some aspects about the Beerus arc that are superior to its movie counter part. It really is worth watching in its own right.

The only two major ball drop was how bad the Golden Frieza arc was. The only redeeming part of that arc was a powered up Tagoma and getting Ginyu back even it was only for a short time and the how Copy Vegeta stuff (Biggerst waste of time since the Super 17 arc).

I do not know why people are still going on about the rest of the cast at this point. Since the King Piccolo everyone has slowly but steadily fallen to the way side no matter how hard they trained. Gohan has been going down this path since the Buu arc and he is never going back. GT did nothing for him and its no surprise that Super hasn't ether, sorry Gohan fans but his time has come and gone. Goten, Trunks and by extension Gotenks have always been all hype and no substance so no change there. Piccolo and Future Trunkse are the only ones who are staying in the race but barley, had it been anyone else the plot would likely have just had Frost KO them with zero effort.

This is something that the series has been doing for years, long before Super and expecting any change this late in the game is really just laughable.

[ChronoTwigger]

From the very beginning...?

A new generation and away everything.
I dunno why they didn't so.

[Esfír Dedragón]

My version would be radically different, but not in a ham-fisted, fan-fiction wet dream manner.

Stuff such as God of Destruction, Frieza's Resurrection, 12 Universes, and the Pilaf Gang appearing would have never crossed my mind as being Dragon Ball worthy of being part of the franchise. (Except, maybe the first one)

I suppose if I had to pick one and branch of from that, I would have been okay with the introduction of Beerus at an earlier time, although I imagine him to be a lot weaker. I wish that his reason for coming to Earth would be related to Majin Buu, such as being interested in finding out who beat him (Goku) and giving him the honor of a fight, albeit at a high stake (Goku wins, planet is spared. Goku loses, Earth destroyed). Perhaps during this time, he could introduce of the concept of a "Saiyan God", not "Super Saiyan God" from a wish using the Dragon Balls or from Whis . It might cheapen the first Super Saiyan transformation, but it would at least make things less convoluted. I'm open to the idea that if Goku's red-haired form is to be kept, it should be permanent. His proceeding transformation would be the actual "Super Saiyan God".

Resurrection F would have never, EVER, happened. Around this time, I would have aged the characters. Introduction of Bulla/Bra would have also occurred.

Since the "Future Trunks" arc is still happening, I'm limited in saying what I would have done differently. As interesting as he is, Goku Black is something I would have never thought of, to be honest. All know for sure is that FREAKING MAI would have never showed up.

[SaiyanGod117]

I would have stopped the airing of Super for 6 months so it could get back some preproduction time and air it on a different time slot.

[Zephyr]

I feel like so many little things just compound to make Super feel really unlike a continuation of DB/Z. What I personally think would remedy this will be in black text. Other things that would make me like the series more will be in green:

Production:
- Make the manga the primary product (Toriyama writes and Toyotaro draws), and have the anime be a straight-up adaptation of it.
- Motherfucking pre-production.

Story:
- Start after GT.
- Replicate the story progression of the old series: Toriyama writing it on a week-by-week basis, writing himself into corners, and having to come up with creative ways out. He doesn't go as above and beyond when he's able to plan the story of an entire arc from beginning to end, it seems.
- Have some editors who can do their homework on board to ensure better in-universe consistency (sticklers for characterization, power levels, etc; the whole nine yards).

Music:
- Get Kageyama to do the opening(s).
- Fire Sumitomo. Either reuse old Kikuchi stuff, or commission some new stuff from him.
- Use the old sound effects.

Visuals:
- Fire Yamamuro. Either Minoru Maeda or Masaki Sato can be the lead character designer.
- Use the old color palette.

[kinisking]

I feel like so many little things just compound to make Super feel really unlike a continuation of DB/Z. What I personally think would remedy this will be in black text. Other things that would make me like the series more will be in green:

Production:
- Make the manga the primary product (Toriyama writes and Toyotaro draws), and have the anime be a straight-up adaptation of it.
- Motherfucking pre-production.

Story:
- Start after GT.
- Replicate the story progression of the old series: Toriyama writing it on a week-by-week basis, writing himself into corners, and having to come up with creative ways out. He doesn't go as above and beyond when he's able to plan the story of an entire arc from beginning to end, it seems.
- Have some editors who can do their homework on board to ensure better in-universe consistency (sticklers for characterization, power levels, etc; the whole nine yards).

Music:
- Get Kageyama to do the opening(s).
- Fire Sumitomo. Either reuse old Kikuchi stuff, or commission some new stuff from him.
- Use the old sound effects.

Visuals:
- Fire Yamamuro. Either Minoru Maeda or Masaki Sato can be the lead character designer.
- Use the old color palette.

Sumitomo has gotten really good though imo Haha. I like the idea of everything else

[Zephyr]

He's definitely improved this arc, but it's still not what I'd like in Dragon Ball music.

[Faisal Shourov]

Skip both BoG and RoF arc, and use 10 episodes to explain how Beerus knew about SSG then met Goku. Show Beerus and Goku (and Frieza/Goku) fight in flashback from movies. Then give elaborate explanation of SSB and how God ki works (Super really screwed up the God ki explanation, that's why we have hundreds of pages of power level debates with fan theories).

In U6 arc, let Buu participate and fight Botamo. Make Frost a good guy and let Piccolo beat Frost. Show Piccolo training before the tournament, not meditating. And make Hit the legitimate winner of the tournament and receive the cube.

Skip the entire copy vegeta arc for obvious reasons.

Remove the pilaf team's screentime from current timeline. There's absolutely now need for them (Mai can be Trunks' GF in future timeline without Pilaf). Same for goten who's 100% useless now that Base vegeta can one shot gotenks.

[emperior]

Production

Toei should have obviously started producing Super a lot earlier. If that wasn't possible for whatever reason, they should have at least re-used A LOT of scenes from BoG and RoF in those retellings. The episodes should look like 80% movies and 20% new cuts. The story should look exactly the same as it is now including all the changes made from the movies, I appreciated them. It would have been really easy to make it look awesome by using movies scenes and creating new ones while keeping the level of the art and animation high, and they would have had more time to start producing new arcs episodes.
I also really like the idea of making Toyotaro's manga weekly and the primary product, with the anime being the adaptation of it (at least from the U6 arc)

Sound

Toei should have used old DBZ music and sound effects. Maybe add some new music every once and then but mainly keep Z's score.

Visuals

Toei should have used old Yamamuro's character designs from DBZ and make him do new designs on the same style of his old ones. They should have also used colors like in DBZ and reduce the plastic/shiny look of everything.


These changes would make Super very good in my eyes. Especially the visuals bit, if it looked truly like a DBZ continuation (like DBGT does) that would be awesome.

[omaro34]

You know that fantastic Super Cut of Resurrection F that Ajay put together? Yeah, spilt and edit that cut into episodes and that is how the Ressrection F retelling would have, and should have, panned out for me. It may have turned out to be only roughly 6 episodes long, but it would have been far more cohesive and way less of a slog to get though than the absolute shite that Super put together for that movie's retelling.

Vegeta's unexplained ascension to blue form is something I KNOW you would change in the ROF Arc. I mean it is somewhat explained, but it was sooo lazy. I have the same belief.