English dub airings of Dragon Ball Franchise

[ATEMVEGETA]

So, some of the Dragon Ball, Z, GT, Kai, Movies, have been dubed many times in English with different voice actors and different/altered/cut scenes. I read some of the Wiki articles and tried to find out how many different dubs exist but I got very confused with all the unessasary info each pages includes. So I'm asking if someone can seed some light here for me and make a chart with all the different Eng Dubs of the Dragon Ball Franchise. Thanks!

[VegettoEX]

I mean, that's almost impossible to answer! If there's a particular region or company you want a breakdown on, that can be done. It might be easier to follow/digest on your end (and to write up on someone else's end) if they handle just one company at a time, too.

For FUNimation alone it's insane when you consider them starting with the outsourcing from 1995-1998, some brief joint work with Pioneer, then taking everything in-house in 1999, and still having tons of re-dubs and re-castings and home video re-releases all along the way each with their own minutia.

Our "Newbie Guide" is terribly out-of-date at this point (and I can't vouch for its writing quality anymore), but that might be a decent starting point for Japan and America, at least.

[ATEMVEGETA]

Wow! Are there that many Eng dubs? I didn't expected this! I thought there are around 3-4. Does the same apply for Jap too, or there is only 1 version there?

Btw, I am actually searching for a collection of the DB Franchise all in uncut (with all the scenes, etc). Could someone tell me which versions of each DB, Z, GT, Movies should I search for so they will be uncut with everything in?

If I'm not mistaken at least GT have only 1 version, so it's fine with them. What about the others? And especially the movies. This "Curse of the Blood Rubies" for example is very hard to find it uncut. Idk if it even exists.

[VegettoEX]

Wow! Are there that many Eng dubs? I didn't expected this! I thought there are around 3-4. Does the same apply for Jap too, or there is only 1 version there?

FUNimation's dubbed stuff for America (and beyond), AB Groupe has dubbed things for the UK with various voice casts, there's stuff in the Philippines, etc.

In Japan, that's correct: there's only one version of each product. Things don't get re-dubbed. The only exception is with Dragon Ball Kai, which had its musical score replaced for the Saiyan -> Cell arcs (and was obviously also re-voiced from scratch to begin with).

Btw, I am actually searching for a collection of the DB Franchise all in uncut (with all the scenes, etc). Could someone tell me which versions of each DB, Z, GT, Movies should I search for so they will be uncut with everything in?

This is no longer a concern. If you're buying any product these days (at least from FUNimation in America, and usually with most other companies abroad), it's uncut. There's no editing going on anymore with home releases, and hasn't been since about 2000.

If I'm not mistaken at least GT have only 1 version, so it's fine with them. What about the others? And especially the movies. This "Curse of the Blood Rubies" for example is very hard to find it uncut. Idk if it even exists.

FUNimation only has one dub of Dragon Ball GT, but there are two musical score options: the replacement score that was used in its Cartoon Network television broadcast (composed by Mark Menza), and the original Japanese musical score (composed by Akihito Tokunaga). Both scores are available on the "season set" version (the green boxes) from FUNimation. An alternate English dub was produced for the UK market with the Blue Water voice studio that always used the original Japanese score from the start, but this dub never received a home release.

FUNimation re-released the first Dragon Ball movie ("Curse of the Blood Rubies") in 2010. It was at this point that it finally received an uncut/bilingual home video release in America. It's available as a standalone disc and also as a part of a movie pack.

[clutchins]

Not to toot my own horn, but I have some some half-decent charts in my signature that you're welcome to check out. The movie guide might be right up your alley if I understand your initials post correctly.

[ATEMVEGETA]

@VegettoEX Thanks!!

@clutchins Those charts of yours is what I was looking for. Do you include every Eng Dub release there?

[MetaMoss]

If I'm not mistaken at least GT have only 1 version, so it's fine with them. What about the others? And especially the movies. This "Curse of the Blood Rubies" for example is very hard to find it uncut. Idk if it even exists.

FUNimation only has one dub of Dragon Ball GT, but there are two musical score options: the replacement score that was used in its Cartoon Network television broadcast (composed by Mark Menza), and the original Japanese musical score (composed by Akihito Tokunaga). Both scores are available on the "season set" version (the green boxes) from FUNimation. An alternate English dub was produced for the UK market with the Blue Water voice studio that always used the original Japanese score from the start, but this dub never received a home release.

As a short little addendum (for completeness' sake), I believe the Nicktoons airing of GT also had Menza's score, even though it began its run after the Green Brick's release.

[linkdude20002001]

If you want just guide to all the English dubs so you can make heads or tails of it, I made a guide to "the Many English Dubs of DB, DBZ, and DBGT".

It's not necessarily complete or 100% accurate, but I asked as many people as I could from around the world for information, and this is what I got.

[clutchins]

@VegettoEX Thanks!!

@clutchins Those charts of yours is what I was looking for. Do you include every Eng Dub release there?

If I don't have every single one, I will add anything I'm missing. But I'm pretty sure I covered everything there.

I know that one of the big things I didn't cover was the Westwood/Blue Water dubs of the series because there are no solid airdates for those on the Internet. To see that information somewhere would be great for something like these catalogues.

[Kakacarrottop]

@VegettoEX Thanks!!

@clutchins Those charts of yours is what I was looking for. Do you include every Eng Dub release there?

If I don't have every single one, I will add anything I'm missing. But I'm pretty sure I covered everything there.

I know that one of the big things I didn't cover was the Westwood/Blue Water dubs of the series because there are no solid airdates for those on the Internet. To see that information somewhere would be great for something like these catalogues.

http://web.archive.org/web/200210131144 ... ndex.shtml

This archived early 2000s fansite has airdates for some of the Westwood eps. Also the "TV.com" site has airdates for all the Blue Water GT episodes.

[ATEMVEGETA]

So after some searching about the multiple Eng Dubs, I came up to this:
(correct me if I'm wrong)

1) Harmony Gold: DB Movie 1, DB Movie 3, (and possibly DB episodes 1-5)
2) Blue Water: DB + DBGT
3) AB Groupe: DB Movies 1-3, DBZ Movies 1-9 + 2 Specials, DBGT Special
4) Speedy: DBZ Movies 1-13
5) Ocean Group:

• BLT: DB episodes 1-13, DB Movie 1
  Saban: DBZ episodes 1-53 (Cut version)
  Pioneer: DBZ Movies 1-3
  Westwood: (Not sure what they dubed, help?)

6) FUNimation: (Dubbed everything? Not sure here either, help plz?)

Questions:
1) Westwood dubed episodes together with FUNimation? I'm not sure what happened there if anyone know feel free to seed some light here. I think they dubbed the rest of the DBZ episodes, then re-dubed the Remastered uncut episodes and released them to DVDs? Then KAI, etc?
2) Blue Water's DB dub was edited? Like covering Gokus genitals with flowers, ect, or I confuse this with another dub? Maybe BLT did this?
3) Am I forgeting another dub or something?

[linkdude20002001]

The guide in my signature should answer your pre-question, as well as Question Number Three.

1) The Westwood dubbed DBZ themselves, but got their materials from Funimation (footage and script). They started, I think, after Trunks arrived, and went till the end. They never went back to earlier episodes. Funimation, however, went back to re-dub the episodes they originally used the Vancouverite cast for, so that way it'd be the Texan cast the whole way through. They released it as the Ultimate Uncut Edition, which I don't think they ever finished. They eventually decided on switching from the singles format to the season format, and thus we were given the orange bricks.

2) I don't recall if the Westwood dub of DB added flowers or anything to cover up nudity, but probably. This dub, using a Calgarian cast and now receiving materials from AB Groupe in France, was vastly different from their dub of DBZ. I know it was censored with removed scenes and stuff (like Gokuh taking off Bulma's panties). For reference, Funimation's 1995 dub using the Vancouverite cast is the one with the digital whity-tighties slapped onto Gokuh.

[Danfun64]

IIRC, the Westwood dub only used French footage for the last couple of episodes, when the dub overtook Funi's. Most of the time the cut Funi transfer was used.

[Puto]

The Blue Water dub of DB did use French materials though.

Also, Saban also did the third DBZ movie. Yes, there are two different dubs of that movie with the Ocean cast.

[ATEMVEGETA]

Oh! I didn't knew there was also an Eng Philippinese dub. Thanks for pointing that out. So in Philippines they dubed all the DB episodes and DBZ (1-35)? Also, what do you mean with "Movies: [5 & 6 double feature]"

About the Speedy dub (You mention it as "Toei Animation Enterprises and Animation International (?) -Malaysia-" in your thread), I forgot to mention the DB movies. They actually had DB Movies 1-4 and DBZ Movies 1-13 in VCDs, but did they really had DBZ episodes 1~[at least]11 as you mention in your thread?

[ATEMVEGETA]

Also, Saban also did the third DBZ movie. Yes, there are two different dubs of that movie with the Ocean cast.

Right! I forgot to mention that. Thanks!

[clutchins]

linkdude, can you confirm that Speedy did DB Movie 1? I've never seen a VCD for that movie.

[linkdude20002001]

Yeah, I have a picture on my computer of a VCD of said movie; titled: The Legend of Shenron.

Oh! I didn't knew there was also an Eng Philippinese dub. Thanks for pointing that out. So in Philippines they dubed all the DB episodes and DBZ (1-35)? Also, what do you mean with "Movies: [5 & 6 double feature]"

About the Speedy dub (You mention it as "Toei Animation Enterprises and Animation International (?) -Malaysia-" in your thread), I forgot to mention the DB movies. They actually had DB Movies 1-4 and DBZ Movies 1-13 in VCDs, but did they really had DBZ episodes 1~[at least]11 as you mention in your thread?

Yeah, I've saw them for sale online with the movies on Malaysian VCD sites some years back. They had the same horribly translated titles as the movies.

Also, Saban also did the third DBZ movie. Yes, there are two different dubs of that movie with the Ocean cast.

Right! I forgot to mention that. Thanks!

FUNi dubbed that, tho, not Saban. Saban was just in charge of getting the series on TV for Funimation. As such, I believe they were the ones demanding the edits and censorship (The Next Dimension, HFIL, et cetera).

[ATEMVEGETA]

Are those Philipino episodes "lost" like the Harmony Gold ones, or are they saved? Does anyone know?

[Danfun64]

For the Philippine dub, we have the official soundtrack, movies 5-6 rips with horrendous quality, and a trailer for movie 10. Otherwise, yes. It's pretty much lost.