Does anyone else see the Saiyan saga as being special

[Lord Beerus]

The Saiyan arc, in my opinion, is the best arc the franchise has ever produced. It was wonderfully built up from the original Dragon Ball anime, the stakes were higher than ever before, the lore provided expanded the universe in ways never before seen, the battles were exciting and had you on the edge of the seat, but most importantly, the deaths that happened in the arc felt like they had weight on the plot. A fantastic arc from start to finish and has a special quality that still hasn't been seen in any other arc in the franchise to this day.

[ABED]

The Saiyan arc, in my opinion, is the best arc the franchise has ever produced. It was wonderfully built up from the original Dragon Ball anime, the stakes were higher than ever before, the lore provided expanded the universe in ways never before seen, the battles were exciting and had you on the edge of the seat, but most importantly, the deaths that happened in the arc felt like they had weight on the plot. A fantastic arc from start to finish and has a special quality that still hasn't been seen in any other arc in the franchise to this day.

I agree, except on one point, I do think the Piccolo Daimao arc matches the Saiyan arc. The emotion and catharsis and ominous feeling that hangs over that whole story is unmatched.

[Lord Beerus]

The Saiyan arc, in my opinion, is the best arc the franchise has ever produced. It was wonderfully built up from the original Dragon Ball anime, the stakes were higher than ever before, the lore provided expanded the universe in ways never before seen, the battles were exciting and had you on the edge of the seat, but most importantly, the deaths that happened in the arc felt like they had weight on the plot. A fantastic arc from start to finish and has a special quality that still hasn't been seen in any other arc in the franchise to this day.

I agree, except on one point, I do think the Piccolo Daimao arc matches the Saiyan arc. The emotion and catharsis and ominous feeling that hangs over that whole story is unmatched.

Well, for what it's worth, the King Piccolo arc is my third favourite arc in the entire franchise. Goku really came of age during that arc and I loved how much he developed and learnt from arguably his first major and significant loss in story to come back and avenge Krillin's death and essentially save the world from King Piccolo's reign. It all just built up and executed perfectly. And King Piccolo himself is the second best villain in all of Dragon Ball.

[ABED]

Goku really came of age during that arc and I loved how much he developed and learnt from arguably his first major and significant loss in story

I don't know how much he really developed. He's the same guy, we just see a level of anger and sadness we've never seen before. Other than losing the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai, I would argue that Tao Pai Pai is his first significant loss.

[omaro34]

The Saiyan arc, in my opinion, is the best arc the franchise has ever produced. It was wonderfully built up from the original Dragon Ball anime, the stakes were higher than ever before, the lore provided expanded the universe in ways never before seen, the battles were exciting and had you on the edge of the seat, but most importantly, the deaths that happened in the arc felt like they had weight on the plot. A fantastic arc from start to finish and has a special quality that still hasn't been seen in any other arc in the franchise to this day.

Absolutely, the deaths in the Saiyan arc had so much more weight in them, especially Piccolo's sacrifice because without him, there wouldn't be Dragonballs on Earth hence someone watching that Arc for the first time would be moved knowing that none of the Z fighters can be brought back.

What had me on the edge of my seat watching that Arc so many years ago was the number of times the Z fighters did a major attack on Nappa but he always went relatively unharmed. From Krillin's rage attack after Yamcha's death, to Chiaotzu's self destruction, to Tien's all out attack, to Piccolo and Krillin's sneak attack on Nappa, and finally, to Krillin's Destructo Disc which nearly had Nappa if it weren't for Vegeta's warning. It was an amazing team effort on behalf of the Earth's defenders who were really outmatched in strength, and strategy was definitely utilized. Piccolo's death coming literally right before Goku's arrival was very sad as well. Goku dedicating every blow to Nappa to each one of his deceased friends was one of Goku's best moments as well in my opinion.

[ABED]

One of my favorite moments in the series was Goku running and appearing on Nappa's head then punching him in the gut.

Piccolo's death is much more effective here than in the Ocean dub since Piccolo didn't constantly reinforce how much he cares for Gohan. We saw a FEW moments where he shows any warmth, but Toriyama didn't telegraph Piccolo's actions.

[StrawHatPatriot]

The early android arc is similar, since Goku is there with them.

There should be a DB Super arc that goes back in time to those three years before the android saga so that we can see the cast fight together with some sort of power parity.

[SSJ Human]

There should be a DB Super arc that goes back in time to those three years before the android saga so that we can see the cast fight together with some sort of power parity.

I would love an arc where two or three characters that aren't Goku or Vegeta go back to that time period. No little kids could complain since Goku and Vegeta are technically there.

[precita]

Yamcha and Tenshinhan bought get final moments in the Cell saga.

[StrawHatPatriot]

There should be a DB Super arc that goes back in time to those three years before the android saga so that we can see the cast fight together with some sort of power parity.

I would love an arc where two or three characters that aren't Goku or Vegeta go back to that time period. No little kids could complain since Goku and Vegeta are technically there.

Something like the Namek squad (Piccilo, Krillin, Gohan, Goku and Vegeta), and maybe even Tien would be nice. We never really saw the Z-warriors was one whole unit fight together in the same arc, ever. In Dragon ball, it was mostly tournaments since goku mostly one-shotted the red ribbon army and the fights in the Picilo arc were scattered.

The cell saga is the only arc where everyone got involved in DBZ.

[SSJ Human]

There should be a DB Super arc that goes back in time to those three years before the android saga so that we can see the cast fight together with some sort of power parity.

I would love an arc where two or three characters that aren't Goku or Vegeta go back to that time period. No little kids could complain since Goku and Vegeta are technically there.

Something like the Namek squad (Piccilo, Krillin, Gohan, Goku and Vegeta), and maybe even Tien would be nice. We never really saw the Z-warriors was one whole unit fight together in the same arc, ever. In Dragon ball, it was mostly tournaments since goku mostly one-shotted the red ribbon army and the fights in the Picilo arc were scattered.

The cell saga is the only arc where everyone got involved in DBZ.

I love the Namek squad, though I'd suspect that having so many of them go back might not allow for an arc to focus on each one in addition to others.

[Kakacarrottop]

I always viewed the Saiyan Saga (and by extension, the Namek Saga) as being the peak of the series. Everything before and after is inferior, imo. That whole 1989-1991ish period was not too fight focused like Cell/Buu era & GT, yet also not too cutesy and comedic like DB and Super.

[ABED]

I always viewed the Saiyan Saga (and by extension, the Namek Saga) as being the peak of the series. Everything before and after is inferior, imo. That whole 1989-1991ish period was not too fight focused like Cell/Buu era & GT, yet also not too cutesy and comedic like DB and Super.

It was SUPER fight focused. 89-91 was the 23rd Budokai to Trunks' arrival. I fail to see how that period is less fight focused then Cell, Buu or certainly GT. ANd are you saying DB was all cutesy and comedic?

[StrawHatPatriot]

I always viewed the Saiyan Saga (and by extension, the Namek Saga) as being the peak of the series. Everything before and after is inferior, imo. That whole 1989-1991ish period was not too fight focused like Cell/Buu era & GT, yet also not too cutesy and comedic like DB and Super.

It was SUPER fight focused. 89-91 was the 23rd Budokai to Trunks' arrival. I fail to see how that period is less fight focused then Cell, Buu or certainly GT. ANd are you saying DB was all cutesy and comedic?

By 1989 I'm assuming he means the portion of the year where the Saiyan Saga actually started.