Kanassa wrote:dbzfan7 wrote:Anime Kitten wrote:
Then why exactly do you watch it, if it's "pretty awful"?
Well depends on how much they want to hope for something more to their liking I guess. A lot of people stick with franchises they may hate the current direction of in hope that it'll turn itself around. Just had that happen for me when I was at an all time low. Sometimes it pays to try and stick with it, til it finally gives you what you've been waiting for.
That sounds terrible, I'd find it hard to find enjoyment in something where the line ''Don't worry, it gets good 22 hours in!" comes up. TO quote a quotable person... "Fuck you, I don't want it to be good later, I want it to be good right now!"
There's a big difference in a new thing you never watched and are trying to get into, and a franchise you loved that unfortunately isn't to your tastes as of recent. These aren't newbies complaining, these are seasoned fans who have loved the franchise for years. I'm pretty sure Star Wars fans stuck with the prequels even if a large amount hated them, because they were such fans of the original trilogy. Kaboom covered this himself when he said his dislike of Super.
Kaboom wrote:I'm watching it anyway because 1) it's still new Dragon Ball and has some fun moments now and then, and 2) I can't rightly be critical of it if I don't actually partake of it. If I wasn't watching the show, then I know darn well the counter to any complaints would instead be "but you aren't even watching it, how could you know if it's bad?"
It doesn't change Super's lack of quality either way. Nothing at this point is going to suddenly correct things like the characters' ages and the timeline being all messed up, the ending of the original story being blatantly contradicted, things like the Room of Spirit and Time's rules being changed for no reason, the thematic devaluing of Super Saiyan God's power, the continued over-glorification of Goku and Vegeta at other characters' expense, and all the other little things that just keep adding up and making the manure pile bigger and bigger with each batch of new episodes.
We're now almost 50 episodes into Dragon Ball Super. I don't need to wait and be patient any more to firmly declare that I find the series an irredeemable piece of crap. I reached that conclusion long ago and the series isn't showing any signs of contesting it.
Dragon Ball is something a lot of people have likely followed for years. For some people they're upset with Super, but are still hopeful it'll one day turn around. For some it might have already, and for others it's still disappointing them. But it's still Dragon Ball, and as fans they probably are curious as to where it goes. It's not some inconsequential story, this is the next chapter of the series. Fans whether liking or hating Super, want to know where things go. Sometimes it pays off to stick around and see what comes next. I was ready to give up on Sonic for being a piece of shit, til two promising looking titles surfaced. One guaranteed to be good, while the other is at least looking like it wants to change the current direction.
A lot of the "Don't watch it crew" really just boils down to "Stop hating what I like". Or it's as Kaboom said, going to be used as an excuse to shoot down anyone's critique of Super if they did just drop it as some people said. Then they'll say "Oh but you didn't watch it all so you don't know". So from a critical point of view, they watch so apologists can't cry that bullshit to shoot down critiques.
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No thank you. The whole light/dark contrast between them is enough... he'd really just be "evil Goku" at that point.
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