"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Anime Kitten]

That's a good point, but why even bother complaining then? It's bad, so just state your opinion and don't repeat yourself. If it gets good, then say it's good. If it gets bad again, then say it's bad again. I see no legitimate reason why it's fun or enjoyable to air your grievances with the show over and over again. If there is, please enlighten me.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

There's something I noticed by inverting the colors of the image.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Maybe it's pink because it's supposed to be some "inverted" SSB?

I don't know, maybe I'm looking to deep into it.

Another Toriyama happy accident!

[sintzu]

There's something I noticed by inverting the colors of the image.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Maybe it's pink because it's supposed to be some "inverted" SSB?

I don't know, maybe I'm looking to deep into it.

Or maybe it's our Goku's form after Black takes him over.

[dbzfan7]

That's a good point, but why even bother complaining then? It's bad, so just state your opinion and don't repeat yourself. If it gets good, then say it's good. If it gets bad again, then say it's bad again. I see no legitimate reason why it's fun or enjoyable to air your grievances with the show over and over again. If there is, please enlighten me.

That is something I do agree with. Some of the complaints are repetitive. But it usually at least I mostly see is tied into the episode when in discussion. The reason it is fun to air your distaste for show, is because you share your observations. It is fun to see what you saw, and see how many other people noticed this, didn't see that, or flat out disagree's. Actually I take that last part back, as disagreement is a big no no even on this forum.

Unfortunately there are some who copy and paste their observations from the last few times, but usually I see most people do address problems they had with the episode itself instead of just the bare-bone "Bad animation" "Shit Story" "Goku & Vegeta Show". Sometimes people just say that and add nothing to the conversation, but most of the time if they believe that, they do at least add why the current episode supports that belief.

[Anime Kitten]

Well, I'm glad we agree on something, then.

Anyhow, I really hope Black's Pink form isn't a "new" form; just his version of SSJ Blue or something (like the inverted colors).

[sintzu]

I really hope Black's Pink form isn't a "new" form; just his version of SSJ Blue or something (like the inverted colors).

Where will he get something like that ? he could barely put up a fight with a Ssj2 Goku.

[namekiansaiyan]

I really hope Black's Pink form isn't a "new" form; just his version of SSJ Blue or something (like the inverted colors).

Where will he get something like that ? he could barely put up a fight with a Ssj2 Goku.

Goku Black is improving all the time.

[Anime Kitten]

Where will he get something like that ? he could barely put up a fight with a Ssj2 Goku.

Well, it seems like he absorbed SSJ2 Goku's power, so maybe he'll keep improving somehow during the next few episodes until he fights again (almost undoubtedly in that form). Hopefully we'll get some kind of good explanation; this arc seems to be pretty well-written so far, at least I think.

[Hellspawn28]

I don't get why people are upset over the color pink. Majin Buu is pink and yet no one cared about that. Even when I was in 5th grade during the Buu saga in 2001, no one I knew cared about him being pink.

[Avok]

On the contrary, the fact that nobody considered or even expected it proves it.

So what? Shock value and surprising events don't mean clever writing. Maybe it is so bizarre that people wouldn't even though about. Like, if Goku were to have a 4-arm transformation tomorrow, would that be imaginative just because people are not expecting it?

The hair color of a character is your barometer of an arc's quality? Wow...

It's an aggregative. A pink re-color? When there are other options to make a nice and original transformation?
Yes, it speaks volumes about the series itself.

I'm perfectly fine with it. Just waiting for the reaction when people realized their own fan fiction dreams have not materialized.

See, this is the problem with this show fanbase.
You think we are haters and that we don't like it because we want something else and that the show is perfectly fine and all the problems are because we have our own headcanon.

[404FILENOTFOUND]

I don't get why people are upset over the color pink. Majin Buu is pink and yet no one cared about that. Even when I was in 5th grade during the Buu saga in 2001, no one I knew cared about him being pink.

Differing strokes for different folks but I do believe a lot of people over react just to find something to complain about (Trunk's blue hair) I honestly quite like it and if it is an actual thing that is going to happen I can only hope its as pretty to look at like the shade of blue they chose for SSGSS

[Sonicjamareiz]

Where do you guys get the idea that Goku & Vegeta will be getting ssjp there's literally nothing implying that this is the case. When I first saw that ssjp Goku Black I instantly thought it was just an evil version ssj/ssjg.

[nite_jay]

I didn't like where new forms were going since SSJ3 to be honest. After that everybody just wanted bigger hair, muscles, and fur which I didn't really like.

Here's a thought: if SS4 was called something else from the beginning, would people have minded as much? I've always had this notion that SS3 was the result of gaining unworldly knowledge on how to push past the pinnacle (SS2) - almost like an affront to nature.

Going any further just seems silly at that point, but SS4's method was at least more interesting than "I rage'd harder." It was linked to the original Oozaru form and finding calamity in that power. The Super Saiyan Oozaru was a really cool concept, honestl- ...holy shit, am I praising GT? If we actually had some more development in the history and trials of the Saiyan race (besides iffy and inconsistent flashbacks), I could totally see the SSO being a big part.

...the color-fur bods and magical "+1 PANTS" were dumb, but I was down for the wild hair and returning tails.

I liked the overall explaination for SSJ4, but the overall design looked a little too weird for me. I guess I am scarred from all the fanart of random buff hairy overly flashy designs of what they wanted SSJ5 to look like.

[Luso Saiyan]

So what? Shock value and surprising events don't mean clever writing.

It doesn't mean bad writing either. Anyway, that has nothing to do with what you said and I replied to.

Maybe it is so bizarre that people wouldn't even though about.

Bizarre, different, bold, new. You can use any of those words to describe it. My point is that it wasn't unimaginative precisely because of that.

Like, if Goku were to have a 4-arm transformation tomorrow, would that be imaginative just because people are not expecting it?

If it had a logic behind it, yes. It would. We're talking about a transformation/power up of an established character. Any hair color would be fair game. The fact that they picked one nobody thought of is imaginative.

It's an aggregative.

You made that claim based on an hair color that you don't like. That didn't sound like a mere factor among others.

When there are other options to make a nice and original transformation?

Nice and original to whom? You? Me? Toriyama?

Yes, it speaks volumes about the series itself.

No, it doesn't. It's just an hair change due to a transformation.

See, this is the problem with this show fanbase.
You think we are haters and that we don't like it because we want something else and that the show is perfectly fine and all the problems are because we have our own headcanon.

A lot of baseless assumption in there. I could care less if you like something or not. If you don't like it, fine. You're not more right or wrong than those who do. However, when you make a judgement about the show's quality based on such a superfluous, irrelevant and subjective detail as the hair color of a character, then yes, you should expect people not taking your comment seriously.

And my last comment had nothing to do with you, hence the dashes.

[Anime Kitten]

I honestly can't believe this. People are disagreeing over hair color. I mean... surely there is SOMETHING of more interest to debate here?

... But it's none of my business, so feel free to continue if you so desire.

[Doctor.]

I love the hair color, but really, REALLY hope it's exclusive to Black.

I really hope Black's Pink form isn't a "new" form; just his version of SSJ Blue or something (like the inverted colors).

Where will he get something like that ? he could barely put up a fight with a Ssj2 Goku.

Yeah, in his base form.

If this is just his version of Super Saiyan, he'll already get a ridiculous boost.

[Kanassa]

I honestly can't believe this. People are disagreeing over hair color. I mean... surely there is SOMETHING of more interest to debate here?

... But it's none of my business, so feel free to continue if you so desire.

Were you not here for the rage over Trunks's hair?

[nite_jay]

I really hope Black's Pink form isn't a "new" form; just his version of SSJ Blue or something (like the inverted colors).

Where will he get something like that ? he could barely put up a fight with a Ssj2 Goku.

Maybe a vengeful Vegeta rushes in as SSJ Blue and kicks Black's ass. Then, soon after he somehow escapes? I don't know though, this is just speculation.

[Anime Kitten]

Were you not here for the rage over Trunks's hair?

I was here, but I wasn't in the discussions about it. I was probably stuck on Xenoverse 2, I'm guessing.

[Boo Machine]

I love the hair color, but really, REALLY hope it's exclusive to Black.

Where will he get something like that ? he could barely put up a fight with a Ssj2 Goku.

Maybe a vengeful Vegeta rushes in as SSJ Blue and kicks Black's ass. Then, soon after he somehow escapes? I don't know though, this is just speculation.

Well if Black does indeed get stronger depending on the power of his opponent , then they can easily bring back the old method of "vegeta screws over everyone" by rushing Black in his anger only to make Black more powerful and achieve bubblegum saiyan.