"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ArchedThunder]

It's indeed a shame that a good story is being dragged down to a DBGT level anime, because of the godawful animation and the retarded faces that are drawn.

Gt was nowhere near this bad in both production and writing

I'd argue GT's writing was a lot worse. You may not like how Goku is portrayed sometimes, but the overall plot and character interactions are so much better than GT to me.

[Avok]

It's indeed a shame that a good story is being dragged down to a DBGT level anime, because of the godawful animation and the retarded faces that are drawn.

Gt was nowhere near this bad in both production and writing

I'd argue GT's writing was a lot worse. You may not like how Goku is portrayed sometimes, but the overall plot and character interactions are so much better than GT to me.

GT was pretty meh majority of the time, but it had really strong and well done moments here and there, which is a thing that Super lacks.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

It's indeed a shame that a good story is being dragged down to a DBGT level anime, because of the godawful animation and the retarded faces that are drawn.

Gt was nowhere near this bad in both production and writing

I'd argue GT's writing was a lot worse. You may not like how Goku is portrayed sometimes, but the overall plot and character interactions are so much better than GT to me.

I agree Super story is currently a lot more interesting and engaging than anything GT did. Plus GT had Goku as a literal kid much rather Goku act like a kid instead of looking like one.

Gt was nowhere near this bad in both production and writing

I'd argue GT's writing was a lot worse. You may not like how Goku is portrayed sometimes, but the overall plot and character interactions are so much better than GT to me.

GT was pretty meh majority of the time, but it had really strong and well done moments here and there, which is a thing that Super lacks.

I disagree. The Vegeta Cabba fight and the SSGSSKK were well done moments in Super.

[ArchedThunder]

Gt was nowhere near this bad in both production and writing

I'd argue GT's writing was a lot worse. You may not like how Goku is portrayed sometimes, but the overall plot and character interactions are so much better than GT to me.

GT was pretty meh majority of the time, but it had really strong and well done moments here and there, which is a thing that Super lacks.

I think Super has a lot of well done moments and the only GT moments that stand out to me writing wise is Piccolo's sacrifice and the ending. The rest is incredibly forgettable. Nothing in GT comes anywhere near the Pan episode for me though.

[kinisking]

Not at all!

Are you sure? Seems like good evidence that they are.

Goten is up there so probably not.

Goten is also part of the new opening picture. I think he'll be relevant this arc.

I think Super has a lot of well done moments and the only GT moments that stand out to me writing wise is Piccolo's sacrifice and the ending. The rest is incredibly forgettable. Nothing in GT comes anywhere near the Pan episode for me though.

Completely agree besides for the Pan episode. I'm not that big a fan of pan, althoughI did like Goku losing his power's and being more responsible.

[namekiansaiyan]

I dont know where to post this or if someone already has but since it is basically apart of Super I will here.

For UK Fans there will actually be some Dragonball on TV in form of the Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F movies on Sky Cinema. Battle of Gods will be shown form Saturday 13th August and Resurrection of F from the Saturday 20th August.

[Kagari]

Are you sure? Seems like good evidence that they are.

Goten is up there so probably not.

Goten is also part of the new opening picture. I think he'll be relevant this arc.

I think Super has a lot of well done moments and the only GT moments that stand out to me writing wise is Piccolo's sacrifice and the ending. The rest is incredibly forgettable. Nothing in GT comes anywhere near the Pan episode for me though.

Completely agree besides for the Pan episode. I'm not that big a fan of pan, althoughI did like Goku losing his power's and being more responsible.

They're sure doing their best to keep him from meeting Trunks and offscreen entirely.

[Noah]

I still say that when they did the wish they turned into babies which is why in BoG they look like Goten and Trunks' age, still implying that the wish was made around the same time in both timelines.

So according to Toyotaro the Pilaf Gang hijacked the wish to bring back Goku or perhaps heal him of his heart virus or help them locate New Namek.
I like that it happened to have dire consequences not just for the Pilaf Gang, but also for the Z gang, as there would be no next time, as the androids killed Piccolo and therefore Kami, making the DBs stay inactive forever.

Interesting, but I still see this as a lame retcon... Like this was never mentioned by Trunks in the Android Arc and could be this wish the reason why did Pilaf Gang was revived after Vegeta last wish in Boo Arc? They're not evil?

[dbs fanboy]

Anyways (now that i'm here) i think that super is better than GT in terms of writing, but GT had a lot of this great moments as well, like when Goku transformed into a ssj 4 thanks to Pan or when Vegeta told the saiyan gang to leave while he sacrificed his life, and then seeing how everyone is returning to protect the Earth.

[Xeztin]

Well, July is over and we didn't get our deserved third movie announcement. That sucks.
I demand a lawyer.

Perhaps we will get it for a Christmas present!
On the topic of Super and GT, I love both but I have to say that BoG and this Future Trunks arc has really held my attention more than anything in GT. Goku being a man-child does bother me to some extent even if that was how he was meant to be, though I try to look over it. I'm not sure if it will come off as good in an English dub as it does in Japanese though. The only thing I was really crazy about in GT was Baby and Super Saiyan 4 though some points weren't 100 percent executed like they should have been. Goku being a kid again doesn't really bother me either since we see him as an adult with SSJ4. Super in general is pretty good for the schedule to me, but if there was any doubt about the series for me, this current arc really saved it. We have no idea where this story will go and I'm loving it.

[kinisking]

Goten is up there so probably not.

Goten is also part of the new opening picture. I think he'll be relevant this arc.

I think Super has a lot of well done moments and the only GT moments that stand out to me writing wise is Piccolo's sacrifice and the ending. The rest is incredibly forgettable. Nothing in GT comes anywhere near the Pan episode for me though.

Completely agree besides for the Pan episode. I'm not that big a fan of pan, althoughI did like Goku losing his power's and being more responsible.

They're sure doing their best to keep him from meeting Trunks and offscreen entirely.

I still think they're just keeping him for later. He'll have his time to shine.

[Kagari]

Goten is also part of the new opening picture. I think he'll be relevant this arc.

Completely agree besides for the Pan episode. I'm not that big a fan of pan, althoughI did like Goku losing his power's and being more responsible.

They're sure doing their best to keep him from meeting Trunks and offscreen entirely.

I still think they're just keeping him for later. He'll have his time to shine.

I feel like we keep saying these things and they have yet to happen. At this point it seems better to expect nothing and be surprised when it actually does. Super has tossed aside too many characters for too long now even though the two movies did a decent job with most of them. It feels somewhat disconnected from the tournament on.

[SquadronGOD]

They're sure doing their best to keep him from meeting Trunks and offscreen entirely.

I still think they're just keeping him for later. He'll have his time to shine.

I feel like we keep saying these things and they have yet to happen. At this point it seems better to expect nothing and be surprised when it actually does. Super has tossed aside too many characters for too long now even though the two movies did a decent job with most of them. It feels somewhat disconnected from the tournament on.

I seriously think Black is Goten. I'm gonna try to avoid an argumento but Gotens belt was randomly changed to red for DBS. I think Trunks will be completely surprised when meeting Goten. I think the reason Blacks transformation is pink is because he's a half Saiyan and couldn't quite reach that red god form, maybe... plus where the hell is Goten??!

[namekiansaiyan]

I still think they're just keeping him for later. He'll have his time to shine.

I feel like we keep saying these things and they have yet to happen. At this point it seems better to expect nothing and be surprised when it actually does. Super has tossed aside too many characters for too long now even though the two movies did a decent job with most of them. It feels somewhat disconnected from the tournament on.

I seriously think Black is Goten. I'm gonna try to avoid an argumento but Gotens belt was randomly changed to red for DBS. I think Trunks will be completely surprised when meeting Goten. I think the reason Blacks transformation is pink is because he's a half Saiyan and couldn't quite reach that red god form, maybe... plus where the hell is Goten??!

When we think about our theories about what might happen, we should always ask ourselves, would Toriyama do that?

The thing about half Saiyan transformations is probably something Toriyama would not do and does Toriyama actually care about Goten.

[Xeztin]

I feel like we keep saying these things and they have yet to happen. At this point it seems better to expect nothing and be surprised when it actually does. Super has tossed aside too many characters for too long now even though the two movies did a decent job with most of them. It feels somewhat disconnected from the tournament on.

I seriously think Black is Goten. I'm gonna try to avoid an argumento but Gotens belt was randomly changed to red for DBS. I think Trunks will be completely surprised when meeting Goten. I think the reason Blacks transformation is pink is because he's a half Saiyan and couldn't quite reach that red god form, maybe... plus where the hell is Goten??!

When we think about our theories about what might happen, we should always ask ourselves, would Toriyama do that?

The thing about half Saiyan transformations is probably something Toriyama would not do and does Toriyama actually care about Goten.

I'm not sure Toriyama really looks at anything of the past as of importance, not even Super Saiyan to some extent or the side-cast. It just happens to be there and established and I think he does what he can with it. Super Saiyan Blue etc..

[kinisking]

They're sure doing their best to keep him from meeting Trunks and offscreen entirely.

I still think they're just keeping him for later. He'll have his time to shine.

I feel like we keep saying these things and they have yet to happen. At this point it seems better to expect nothing and be surprised when it actually does. Super has tossed aside too many characters for too long now even though the two movies did a decent job with most of them. It feels somewhat disconnected from the tournament on.

I just can't understand why they would add him in that opening picture if he isn't going to be relevant.

[sintzu]

You may not like how Goku is portrayed sometimes, but the overall plot and character interactions are so much better than GT to me.

Both had good plots but Super's are being handled a lot better, especially the current one due to all the mysteries and unanswered questions but Toei's writing is really hurting them and I wish he'd give them some guide lines on how to write the characters.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I still think they're just keeping him for later. He'll have his time to shine.

I feel like we keep saying these things and they have yet to happen. At this point it seems better to expect nothing and be surprised when it actually does. Super has tossed aside too many characters for too long now even though the two movies did a decent job with most of them. It feels somewhat disconnected from the tournament on.

I seriously think Black is Goten. I'm gonna try to avoid an argumento but Gotens belt was randomly changed to red for DBS. I think Trunks will be completely surprised when meeting Goten. I think the reason Blacks transformation is pink is because he's a half Saiyan and couldn't quite reach that red god form, maybe... plus where the hell is Goten??!

What do you mean where the hell is Goten? In our timeline he is with his mom and in Future Trunks timeline he was never born. I love Goten and if there was a way for hom to be Black I would like it but it's just not possible IMO.

[Lord Beerus]

Well, July is over and we didn't get our deserved third movie announcement. That sucks.
I demand a lawyer.

I don't think Toei are in any real position to make a Dragon Ball movie. It would be kind of redundant. And of course, Super has been pretty much feeding off of scraps in terms of animators that another animated projected, especially a movie, would only make the staff available for Super even more thin on the ground.

[Alee9977]

I feel like we keep saying these things and they have yet to happen. At this point it seems better to expect nothing and be surprised when it actually does. Super has tossed aside too many characters for too long now even though the two movies did a decent job with most of them. It feels somewhat disconnected from the tournament on.

I seriously think Black is Goten. I'm gonna try to avoid an argumento but Gotens belt was randomly changed to red for DBS. I think Trunks will be completely surprised when meeting Goten. I think the reason Blacks transformation is pink is because he's a half Saiyan and couldn't quite reach that red god form, maybe... plus where the hell is Goten??!

What do you mean where the hell is Goten? In our timeline he is with his mom and in Future Trunks timeline he was never born. I love Goten and if there was a way for hom to be Black I would like it but it's just not possible IMO.

Well, it is not impossible, maybe Chichi got pregnant before Goku dies, and that will mean that Future Goten was born a couple of months before than Present Goten.
We don't know if she has another son in the future because it wasn't confirmed, but what we do know is that Trunks never met him, or that seems to be the case.