Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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by sintzu » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:30 pm
kinisking wrote:
Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black.
goku Vs black.
goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
That was great, all 30 seconds of it.
That was disappointing.
They weren't bad but they weren't anywhere near what the original had.
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by ArchedThunder » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:47 pm
kinisking wrote:sintzu wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:They should have the best animators and writers on a show that has the potential to be the biggest and the most profitable.
The best is completely out of the question considering we can't even get anything acceptable.
Anything outside of fights is definitely acceptable. Even the fights are most of the time. Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black, goku Vs black, goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
I'd add SSJ3 Goku VS Beerus, Vegeta VS Beerus, lots of parts of Godku VS Beerus, the final SSJ Goku VS Beerus fight, Vegeta VS Freeza, Goku VS Monaka Beerus, Goten and Trunks VS Gril's gang, Vegeta VS Copy Gril's gang and Goku VS Copy Vegeta as enjoyable fights as well. Super certainly has problems, but honestly there are quite a few enjoyable fights, they could all be better, but many are still enjoyable.
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by Anime Kitten » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:50 pm
Finally some real appreciation for
Super!
I'm one of the very few people who liked the Superhuman Water Arc, so it's nice to see some praise of it.
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by namekiansaiyan » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:53 pm
kinisking wrote:sintzu wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:They should have the best animators and writers on a show that has the potential to be the biggest and the most profitable.
The best is completely out of the question considering we can't even get anything acceptable.
Anything outside of fights is definitely acceptable. Even the fights are most of the time. Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black, goku Vs black, goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
I think Cabba vs Vegeta is the worst fight in Super as it is just a training session. Vegeta vs Hit is the usual beatdown so it was good for that reason. Trunks vs Black was not even a fight. Goku vs Black was OK. Goku vs Hit is the best of those fights you mentioned.
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by ArchedThunder » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:55 pm
Anime Kitten wrote:
I'm one of the very few people who liked the Superhuman Water Arc, so it's nice to see some praise of it.
I think story wise it was pretty bad, lol, but the first and last episodes of it had some really enjoyable action, the middle episode was not good all around.
Goku VS Copy Vegeta was way better than it had any right to be and I'm excited to see if Yashima will handle a fight like that again in the future.
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by namekiansaiyan » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:00 pm
ArchedThunder wrote:Anime Kitten wrote:
I'm one of the very few people who liked the Superhuman Water Arc, so it's nice to see some praise of it.
I think story wise it was pretty bad, lol, but the first and last episodes of it had some really enjoyable action, the middle episode was not good all around.
Goku VS Copy Vegeta was way better than it had any right to be and I'm excited to see if Yashima will handle a fight like that again in the future.
The problem is who was facing each other and not the fight in this case.
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by sintzu » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:02 pm
ArchedThunder wrote:
Vegeta VS Freeza.
A classic.

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by Boo Machine » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:03 pm
namekiansaiyan wrote:kinisking wrote:sintzu wrote:
The best is completely out of the question considering we can't even get anything acceptable.
Anything outside of fights is definitely acceptable. Even the fights are most of the time. Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black, goku Vs black, goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
I think Cabba vs Vegeta is the worst fight in Super as it is just a training session. Vegeta vs Hit is the usual beatdown so it was good for that reason. Trunks vs Black was not even a fight. Goku vs Black was OK. Goku vs Hit is the best of those fights you mentioned.
Vegeta vs Cabba being a training session doesn't make it less enjoyable. A lot of people liked it for Cabba alone. Trunks vs Black may have been one sided and short but I feel it was still very well done.
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by namekiansaiyan » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:10 pm
Boo Machine wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:kinisking wrote:
Anything outside of fights is definitely acceptable. Even the fights are most of the time. Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black, goku Vs black, goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
I think Cabba vs Vegeta is the worst fight in Super as it is just a training session. Vegeta vs Hit is the usual beatdown so it was good for that reason. Trunks vs Black was not even a fight. Goku vs Black was OK. Goku vs Hit is the best of those fights you mentioned.
Vegeta vs Cabba being a training session doesn't make it less enjoyable. A lot of people liked it for Cabba alone. Trunks vs Black may have been one sided and short but I feel it was still very well done.
I still dont like the Vegeta vs Cabba fight as it was just anger by Cabba and him becoming a Super Saiyan which to me did not make it exciting. Vegeta vs Magetta was much better and Cabba was my least favourite out of Champa's team.
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by Boo Machine » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:16 pm
namekiansaiyan wrote:Boo Machine wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:
I think Cabba vs Vegeta is the worst fight in Super as it is just a training session. Vegeta vs Hit is the usual beatdown so it was good for that reason. Trunks vs Black was not even a fight. Goku vs Black was OK. Goku vs Hit is the best of those fights you mentioned.
Vegeta vs Cabba being a training session doesn't make it less enjoyable. A lot of people liked it for Cabba alone. Trunks vs Black may have been one sided and short but I feel it was still very well done.
I still dont like the Vegeta vs Cabba fight as it was just anger by Cabba and him becoming a Super Saiyan which to me did not make it exciting. Vegeta vs Magetta was much better and Cabba was my least favourite out of Champa's team.
Oh yes! I'd like Vegeta vs Magetta to be added to the list of enjoyable fights. It's what made Maggeta my favorite U6 fighter.
Yeah, I'm not one of the ones that's a huge Cabba fan, but I do see a lot of love for the guy.
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by kinisking » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:26 pm
Boo Machine wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:Boo Machine wrote:
Vegeta vs Cabba being a training session doesn't make it less enjoyable. A lot of people liked it for Cabba alone. Trunks vs Black may have been one sided and short but I feel it was still very well done.
I still dont like the Vegeta vs Cabba fight as it was just anger by Cabba and him becoming a Super Saiyan which to me did not make it exciting. Vegeta vs Magetta was much better and Cabba was my least favourite out of Champa's team.
Oh yes! I'd like Vegeta vs Magetta to be added to the list of enjoyable fights. It's what made Maggeta my favorite U6 fighter.
Yeah, I'm not one of the ones that's a huge Cabba fan, but I do see a lot of love for the guy.
Probably because he's a new saiyan. That pretty much makes him an instant favorite. Personality and design wise, he's nothing new. He has kid Gohan's personality and ultimate gohan's hair lol. I really wish he was like what the promotional poster hinted at. It gave him a bored kind of look. Would have been amazing to see him stomp Boo or Piccolo and act completely bored while doing it. Maybe even have a snobbish attitude. Then show him get excited against Vegeta because for the first time in his life he has a real challenge. When Vegeta stomps him you could then make him adore vegeta exactly like he does in the actual show.
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by kinisking » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:27 pm
sintzu wrote:kinisking wrote:
Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black.
goku Vs black.
goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
That was great, all 30 seconds of it.
That was disappointing.
They weren't bad but they weren't anywhere near what the original had.
No where near the orignal? What do you even mean? They could have easily fit in as a typical fight in DBZ.
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by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:36 pm
kinisking wrote:sintzu wrote:kinisking wrote:
Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black.
goku Vs black.
goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
That was great, all 30 seconds of it.
That was disappointing.
They weren't bad but they weren't anywhere near what the original had.
No where near the orignal? What do you even mean? They could have easily fit in as a typical fight in DBZ.
I agree. In fact the Vegeta vs Mag fight brought me back into
Super. I was done with it prior to that point. From that point on the fights in that arc were good. The fights in the Trunks arc have been mixed but hoping for the best when the real fight begins (which at this rate maybe in like 10 weeks lol).
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by Michie » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:39 pm
kinisking wrote:sintzu wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:They should have the best animators and writers on a show that has the potential to be the biggest and the most profitable.
The best is completely out of the question considering we can't even get anything acceptable.
Anything outside of fights is definitely acceptable. Even the fights are most of the time. Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black, goku Vs black, goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
No it's not. You can be cute and say : "Super looks okay". However, it definitely not acceptable. For a 2016 anime, Dragon Ball Super looks extremely average.
The new Beyblade anime has better animation, a random harem anime has better animation, every shonen anime has better animation and let's not forget Pokemon.
Pokemon looks gorgeous most of the time and the battles looks amazing.
Sad thing is. Ash is still a fun character in Pokemon XY but he's so much more mature. Even if Super fixes the animation we still have to deal with the Toei writing. I highly recommend that people who are defending Super Goku should read the manga. Goku's character is so much better there that it makes me sad.
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by sintzu » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:39 pm
kinisking wrote:No where near the orignal? What do you even mean? They could have easily fit in as a typical fight in DBZ.
I mean they weren't as good as the original's fights, especially their lengths.
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by kinisking » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:47 pm
Michie wrote:kinisking wrote:sintzu wrote:
The best is completely out of the question considering we can't even get anything acceptable.
Anything outside of fights is definitely acceptable. Even the fights are most of the time. Are you going to ignore future trunks Vs black, goku Vs black, goku and vegeta Vs hit, cabba Vs vegeta and more? So quick to forget.
No it's not. You can be cute and say : "Super looks okay". However, it definitely not acceptable. For a 2016 anime,
Dragon Ball Super looks extremely average.
The new Beyblade anime has better animation, a random harem anime has better animation, every shonen anime has better animation and let's not forget Pokemon.
Pokemon looks gorgeous most of the time and the battles looks amazing.
Sad thing is. Ash is still a fun character in Pokemon XY but he's so much more mature. Even if Super fixes the animation we still have to deal with the Toei writing. I highly recommend that people who are defending Super Goku should read the manga. Goku's character is so much better there that it makes me sad.
If it's an average anime than it's obviously acceptable. Unless you're saying most anime are unacceptable. They'res a difference between good and acceptable. I suppose you could say what's acceptable is an opinion, but considering it's ratings I would say the animation is considered acceptable by most people. Even on Kanzenshuu and other places, the animation is acceptable for the most part.
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by sintzu » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:49 pm
Michie wrote:
For a 2016 anime, Dragon Ball Super looks extremely average.
Even if Super fixes the animation we still have to deal with the Toei writing.
I highly recommend that people who are defending Super Goku should read the manga.
It's hard to believe that it's part of the same franchise that was known and loved for its battles.
Their writing is on a whole new level of bad.
Not only do they defend him, they accuse people who don't like him of not understanding the character and the franchise.
kinisking wrote:
Considering it's ratings I would say the animation is considered acceptable by most people.
Even on Kanzenshuu and other places, the animation is acceptable for the most part.
It's main demographic are children so of course it has high ratings.
By fanboys, not fans who have standards for the franchise and anime in general.
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by kinisking » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:57 pm
sintzu wrote:Michie wrote:
For a 2016 anime, Dragon Ball Super looks extremely average.
Even if Super fixes the animation we still have to deal with the Toei writing.
I highly recommend that people who are defending Super Goku should read the manga.
It's hard to believe that it's part of the same franchise that was known and loved for its battles.
Their writing is on a whole new level of bad.
Not only do they defend him, they accuse people who don't like him of not understanding the character and the franchise.
kinisking wrote:
Considering it's ratings I would say the animation is considered acceptable by most people.
Even on Kanzenshuu and other places, the animation is acceptable for the most part.
It's main demographic are children so of course it has high ratings.
By fanboys, not fans who have standards for the franchise and anime in general.
Then why do other childrens shows not get ratings as high? And I guess the majority of fans are fanboys then. Only the chosen few such as you can guide us from our ignorance.
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by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:59 pm
sintzu wrote:Michie wrote:
For a 2016 anime, Dragon Ball Super looks extremely average.
Even if Super fixes the animation we still have to deal with the Toei writing.
I highly recommend that people who are defending Super Goku should read the manga.
It's hard to believe that it's part of the same franchise that was known and loved for its battles.
Their writing is on a whole new level of bad.
Not only do they defend him, they accuse people who don't like him of not understanding the character and the franchise.
kinisking wrote:
Considering it's ratings I would say the animation is considered acceptable by most people.
Even on Kanzenshuu and other places, the animation is acceptable for the most part.
It's main demographic are children so of course it has high ratings.
By fanboys, not fans who have standards for the franchise and anime in general.
That seems a bit mean
Some people really don't care how flashy animation is. Some of us watch for the story...and I think for the most part Super has done a great job at story telling. The blatant flaws in animation have greatly decreased which is enough for me.
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by sintzu » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:00 pm
kinisking wrote:Only the chosen few such as you can guide us from our ignorance.
Funimation will do that when they ask you to pay 35$ for each 12 episode box set.
GodKaio-Ken wrote:I think for the most part Super has done a great job at story telling.
Toriyama's story is the only thing keeping this mess together.
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