900 Minutes of Uncut Action, DBZ Season 1 Arrives

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:41 pm

And let's not forget the mess Universal got itself into for cropping Back to the Future Parts II & III. (Accidently of course and that was fixed in later pressings. Even Bob Gale, the co-writer and producer, was pissed when they did that.)

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:04 pm

Brad Redfield wrote:And let's not forget the mess Universal got itself into for cropping Back to the Future Parts II & III. (Accidently of course and that was fixed in later pressings. Even Bob Gale, the co-writer and producer, was pissed when they did that.)

Yeah, on top of the uproar going on right now over the movie Tideland having it's OAR changed for the DVD. Lord of War had a similar problem too.

-Corey

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:54 pm

So far, I've seen most of episode 2 and part of 1 (I skimmed.)

And, low and behold, I found that scene with the Tear! Guess what, I didn't see it! Are my eyes that bad that I can't make out a huge tear in a frame-by-frame video?

However, there still IS shaking and white blotches (small but noticable.) I haven't seen any dirt yet though.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:12 pm

bkev wrote:And, low and behold, I found that scene with the Tear! Guess what, I didn't see it! Are my eyes that bad that I can't make out a huge tear in a frame-by-frame video?

No, it's actually in episode 3's recap ;p

-Corey

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:20 pm

Oops! -goes to check it-

Back on topic, the video clips that were put on the fourms awhile back don't show how much the voices overpower the music. It is a thousand times worse on the TV; I had to switch to the Japanese version, I missed the music so much.

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:04 pm

Looking at the listing for Season 1 on amazon.com just made me realize what a losing battle us "fullscreeners" are fighting.

I swear, 90% of everyone who uses the internet must be a complete fool.

And they're all on amazon, buying this shit up. FUNimation's not gonna give a damn about a few letters. They're selling these things like crazy.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:23 pm

Dude, just...stop. Please. It doesn't help your case when you mess up a common saying.

Um you do realise n is right next to b on the keyboard?

I hate to say this, even if you do realise I'm right one day, there is still no reasoning with a cheapskate.

There is no reasoning with me about my money. At least about buying a cheap dvd set of a cartoon.

here have been quite a few shows that I've seen elicit a reaction when something was changed for DVD release, be it aspect ratio, music or any number of other things. See, the companies are marketing stuff to us, the consumers. If they fuck up and we're vocal, they change it. People who take the apathetic approach, such as you seem to be doing, and try to undermine the efforts of those who would work for a better product are the reason FUNimation will continue to make these shitty sets.

I was speaking for myself.

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:26 am

nathantheguitarist wrote:Looking at the listing for Season 1 on amazon.com just made me realize what a losing battle us "fullscreeners" are fighting.

I swear, 90% of everyone who uses the internet must be a complete fool.

And they're all on amazon, buying this shit up. FUNimation's not gonna give a damn about a few letters. They're selling these things like crazy.

Maybe they're like me and are just so overwhelmed by the idea of being able to view Dragonball Z whenever we want without having to wait on Cartoon Network or some other channel to decide to put it on. Sometimes the majority win. And sometimes a win really isn't a win.

But I'll make you guys a deal, if FUNi does concede and finally puts it out there properly, as a gesture of defeat, I won't buy or view the better discs.

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:31 am

It's not that. It's the majority of the people who are buying it are like "Fullscreen SUX!!!1 Wydeskreen is so0o0o0o0o co0o0o0l, and u gets MOR PIKTURE!!11"

It's very pathetic. And there's no getting any sense to all of them. They're all convinced that this is the greatest thing to happen to the series, and they're all eating it up like a plate of free chocolate chip cookies.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:43 am

I'm no fan of widescreen, but it looks A LOT better than the screenshots make it out to be. It's the embarassing remastering and the volume problems that bug me so far; now I see why people are Jap purists. *hadn't seen the japanese version prior*

TheSonofKakarrot · Post by **TheSonofKakarrot** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:15 am

It looks really nice on my TV. Everyone I showed it to knew something was different because they were all so used to the grain so they all thought I bought a "newer" version. To the average person, its leap years ahead of what we were givin before. I would consider myself to be average and not that much of a videophile but I notice the loss in detail in certain scenes and the artifacts that are still present which, ironically, bothers me more than the widescreen issue. But I loved FUNi's DVD's before and I really enjoy these sets with the not-so-great remaster so I'm going to continue to purchase them.

By the way, when we were givin what we wanted in the past, everything was still selling like crazy. For example, when we first got the eyecatches, DBZ DVD's prior to that were still selling well. Same withthe openings/closings around each ep.

I still think FUNi did thise purposefully to keep their gates open. They don't want Dragonball Z to end and they can easily come up with at least two more revisions. One being in full screen 4:3 and/or the HD-DVD set. I also wouldnt be surprised if they had a "3 language" type promotion thing to promote the spanish dub....

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:14 am

Victator Supreme wrote:Um you do realise n is right next to b on the keyboard?

When having sex doggie-style, the asshole and vagina are also right next to eachother. That doesn't mean I stick it in the wrong hole

Seriously dude. Proofread your posts.

By the way, when we were givin what we wanted in the past, everything was still selling like crazy. For example, when we first got the eyecatches, DBZ DVD's prior to that were still selling well. Same withthe openings/closings around each ep.

Yeah, but previously it was obvious that they had the material and were (poorly) cutting it out. We could hear the last note of the eyecatch jingle, for instance. In this case, they've cut the material out of these masters completely, so unless they wanna re-telecine the film masters or go back to mastering discs off the digibetas they originally used...we're screwed.

Part of me hopes they use these masters for an HD release though. The High Def community will rip FUNimation a new asshole.

-Corey

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:48 pm

It wouldn't be too shocking if Funimation was doing this, just for an excuse to release the "really, really, really, We swear to god" uncut DBZ. At this point I'm waiting for an anime con next month to see if I can find a used copy cheap.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:36 pm

Man, vaginas and assholes. Those both sound better than these boxsets.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:51 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote:Looking at the listing for Season 1 on amazon.com just made me realize what a losing battle us "fullscreeners" are fighting.

Yeah, their consumer base is a bit...brainwashed. I posted a quick review with some scrambled thoughts on the set (I wrote it in 5 minutes and will probably revise it later on), so we'll see what the kiddies have to say.

-Corey

FDLink · Post by **FDLink** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:28 pm

No need to revise it, dude (unless you plan to make even better). That was a pretty fuckin' good review that speaks volumes. No doubt some of those brainwashed sheeple will find it jarring and informative.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:11 pm

This may be common knowledge, but if you switch from the Japanese credits to the English ones the camera angle sligthly shifts over and the colors darken! I want to see if it does that with the rest of the episodes too.
*goes to check*

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:41 pm

bkev wrote:This may be common knowledge, but if you switch from the Japanese credits to the English ones the camera angle sligthly shifts over and the colors darken! I want to see if it does that with the rest of the episodes too.
*goes to check*

It doesn't. The angle switching will only effect the episodes' title cards and the ending credits sequences, all other visual content is the exact same in both language settings. Interesting though that you should bring up the ending credit sequence, as I noticed something interesting not too long ago. Compare the shots of Gohan running amok in front of the chibi versions of the characters at the 23rd Budokai, you'll notice the wide-screen doesn't crop as badly in the textless version, while Tien's head is partially cut in the Japanese counterpart. Also, a speck of dirt that pops up for a frame while the dinosaur is passing by Gohan is present in the textless version, but nowhere to be seen in the Japanese. Interesting all this is. >.>

FDLink · Post by **FDLink** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:46 pm

Looking on Amazon, I noticed something that seems to contradict the perception that this set is "selling like hotcakes". The set is listed at #664 in DVD sales last I checked. Granted, Amazon isn't representative of overall sales, but it's gotta be a little embarrasing for FUNi when your newly-released set is getting throttled by the Blu-ray version of The Fifth Element (#99).

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:02 pm

The fifth element rocked. I don't know what you're smoking.