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Compilation Movies?

Post by TheJoo87 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:25 pm

I was in the mood to watch the Androids saga again since its been a while. Anyway I noticed that even when everyone isn't fighting the show still seems to drag on and on. I mean it takes at least five to ten minutes for them to actually start looking for Gelo in the mountains, a scene that should have passed in no longer than probably a minute or two is made to encompass an entire episode. It really drives a person nuts waiting that long.

It got me thinking (don't ask how) but I noticed that if an anime series is popular enough usually the studio will be able to create a set of compilation movies to give the viewer a quicker way to watch the same story. Gundam had this done with the original. Interesting enough the original series had failed at first, like Star Treck in the states, yet when the movie trilogy was made Gundam came back full force and created a new genre. My point: Three simple compilation movies were made for a failing series and look what happened!

Dragonball is of course not a failing series, however I believe if Toei were to release such a compilation it would give new life to the series and possibly bring in more fans, and that's a plus in their wallets!

I would love if Toei made a compilation movie trilogy of Dragonball Z
The Freeza arc
The Cell arc
The Majin Boo arc

Wonderful animation, pristine really would be used, the fights would be better choreagraphed and there would be no time to waste with filler because with a movie everything has to be fineshed in a certain amount of time. I personally would love to see such a thing.

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Post by PythonMonty504 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:28 pm

Sounds like a cool idea. 8)

The only probelm would be putting all that material into only three film.

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Post by Duo » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:36 pm

I've fantasized for a long time the idea of a revamped anime which is a straight adaptation of the Manga and done with the best of the best animation.

But it's only a fantasy.

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Post by TheJoo87 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:44 pm

PythonMonty504 wrote:The only probelm would be putting all that material into only three film.
This is excatly the thing I mean though. See most of that "material" is in fact just long drawn out footage of the characters doing nothing. These scenes would be eliminated for the movie releases and would give the movie version a much faster yet still manageable pace to enjoy the story.

I mean how long can it honestly take for the whole androids saga to take place?

Trunks arrival could be shortened to ten minutes easily so could the training.
The Androids arrival all the way up to Cell could be finished in probably 45 minutes.
The first apperance of Cell to the end of the Cell arc could possibly be done in give or take an hour in a half to two hours.

Add that all up and you've got a three hour movie which I think would be great, plus the longer the movie is the more time they would have to flesh out each scene and make the movie more epic without the obvious filler.
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Post by Ash » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:58 pm

Dragon Ball Z compilation movies have been in my head ever since I saw 'Raoh Den ~ Junai Hen' of the running Shin Seikimatsu Kyuuseishu Densetsu project, which is a five-part "re-animating" of Hokuto no Ken / Fist of the North Star.

(And as there is a Shin Seikimatsu Kyuuseishu Densetsu project, why not such a project for Dragon Ball?
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Post by Super Sonic » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:05 pm

Though I never saw the second DB movie, weren't "Curse of the Blood Rubies" and "Mystical Adventure" kind of compilation movies, albeit with new plots?

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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:13 pm

Super Sonic wrote:Though I never saw the second DB movie, weren't "Curse of the Blood Rubies" and "Mystical Adventure" kind of compilation movies, albeit with new plots?
It's the same with the second DB movie "Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle". Instead of finding Lunch during that police chase scene in the anime & manga, they instead find her while searching for the Sleeping Princess.
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Post by mAcChaos » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:18 pm

I dunno. Isn't some of the appeal for Dragonball how drawn out, in whatever way, and epic, the battles are? If they're cut down to GT / movie style three punches and Vegeta's finished before Goku does one magical punch and ends it in the last few minutes of the movie, it won't be the same.
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Post by ETC123 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:50 pm

Haha, "Gelo".

I was thinking the same thing as Ash (abeilt as many untranslated Japanese titles, of course), considering the Dragonball Z seemed to be going through the same sort of DVD/game revival in Japan as Fist of the North Star was. I guess since there is more material already available on DVD for DB/Z/GT, they didn't feel the need to make more, whereas FotNS is only 152 episodews (oh, and 3 OAV episodes and a movie that they seemingly forgot to put on DVD, unfortunantly :( ).

Considering they are also doing Evangelion remakes, and have done a remake for Zeta Gundam (A New Translation), and that Saint Seiya had new material animated for it in the past five years, it just seems like a really big opportunity missed.

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Post by mAcChaos » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:08 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot to say, even if I had reservations about it I'd definitely want to see what it would be like.
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Post by ETC123 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:15 pm

mAcChaos wrote:I dunno. Isn't some of the appeal for Dragonball how drawn out, in whatever way, and epic, the battles are? If they're cut down to GT / movie style three punches and Vegeta's finished before Goku does one magical punch and ends it in the last few minutes of the movie, it won't be the same.
Because it wouldn't be like that, but then again, you never know.

With these sorts of remakes, it isn't as if they're taking a drastically new direction/take. They understand what makes it popular, and basically just update/truncate it, with better production values.

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Post by EricM » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:18 pm

I always thought DBZ, a good 291 episode show, could be a great 250 episode show, if they cut out the crap filler, episodes were everyone just stands around and makes threats, and pointless flashbacks...

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Post by Pieter » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:50 pm

Cutting apart the entire series makes no sense. Whatever part you're cutting out is a part someone else wouldn't want to miss.

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Post by Grandmaster J » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:01 am

That's a pretty cool idea. I'd like to see a long recap of the entire Z series in one shot, with all new animation, and with King Kai as the narrator.

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Post by Duo » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:48 am

mAcChaos wrote:I dunno. Isn't some of the appeal for Dragonball how drawn out, in whatever way, and epic, the battles are? If they're cut down to GT / movie style three punches and Vegeta's finished before Goku does one magical punch and ends it in the last few minutes of the movie, it won't be the same.
I ponder, have you...read the Manga? The pacing there is exactly what any remake would use and it is as epic, if not moreso, than the dragged on tales of the Anime.

Also, I found an awesome series recap the covers everything pretty well.

Part 1
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Post by Ash » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:29 am

This is what they did with Hokuto no Ken:

Kenshiro vs. Souther (TV) <-> Kenshiro vs. Souther (2006 movie)

Imagine seeing Dragon Ball Z fights with this much a difference in production value =D
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Post by Tatsunoboshi Horoko » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:12 am

That is true. However, it's too bad you could see such a drastic change in the first Thouther fight from the promo preview. (Namely the Hyakuretsu Ken that Kenshiro threw out and Thouther's reaction...Blech....)

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Post by mister yummy » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:21 am

Am I the only person who likes the character driven scenes and relationship building scenes better than the fighting? I love watching #16, #17, and #18 driving around. We get to know their characters better. I like watching Gohan and Goku resting before the Cell Games.

Then again, I'm more of a shoujo fan than a shounen fan. I love DBZ, but in my opinion, CCS is a much better anime.

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Post by TheJoo87 » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:22 pm

mister yummy wrote:Am I the only person who likes the character driven scenes and relationship building scenes better than the fighting? I love watching #16, #17, and #18 driving around. We get to know their characters better. I like watching Gohan and Goku resting before the Cell Games.

I like those scenes too.
The manga seems to do this without problem. And these aren't the scenes that I want to get rid of. Its the long drawn out boring scenes of people staring eachother down. And of course the stupid filler that has no place being there.
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