dbzfan7 wrote:The colour wars will never end XD. To sum it up I guess...
-I think SSJB looks fine with Goku's old outfit. Not a fan of any of the recolor forms and how uninspired they are, but it looks fine with his regular outfit.
-SSJB looks horrible on Vegeta though with his old outfit. When his aura is flaring I can get behind it a bit more, but when it's not the colours do not mix well at all for me. It's ugly.
-Blue hair looks fine on Trunks, but they really couldn't just say he changed his hair colour or something? Feels really pointless, but looks fine. Maybe they don't want him having the same colour as that lost cause Present Trunks.
-SSJ Pink I don't like the idea of, but I'll give it a chance to try and turn me around. Doesn't help it's got the form has a flowers name, and pink is not a colour that instills fear, nor really relates to it. At the moment it's just making me picture Black as a yandere. Maybe a good shade of pink will change my mind.
Also I swear SSJ2 is getting a lot more time lately to shine, just so they can try and make SSJB look different from Super Saiyan. It's clearly SSJ2 hairstyle they keep showing.
Were going to get a Super Saiyan 2 Blue
ArchedThunder wrote:
Xeztin wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
Well with his base form being above SSJ2 and potentially equal to SSJ3 I don't think it's a stretch to say that Rose Black will be equal to or stronger than Blue Goku.
I'd like that but I'm not sure, that'd mean SSJB is only 50x SSJ3 but power scales are upside down anyways
Simple, just say that the form has an even bigger power boost than regular SSJ because of the nature of who he is.
That'd be fine with me, especially because it's called "Rose". One could say he is using his maxium "normal Ki" potential. Goku had to train in the other world for SSJ3 and if a SSJ4 existed (following the blonde hair lineup) It'd be almost impossible for anyone whom is of normal capabilities to achieve. Black probably isn't normal or biological so he might be able to go way beyond SSJ3 or a hypothetical SSJ4 and it's SSJ Rose. In other words it could be a 100k multiplier for all we know.
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TekTheNinja wrote:Tenshinhan hasn't even had a cool moment in Super yet. He ALWAYS gets one cool moment.
1:Not always, he didn't even spoke in GT. Characters like him, Chaozu and Yamcha only got cameos there.
2:And in Super, he beat some Freeza's soldiers.
3: That's all he can do right now with his power level.
1: Yeah, but GT is nearly as bad as Super in this regard. Back then "Goku Time" was a bad thing, but just because Super is by Toriyama people act like it's not a problem.
2: Everyone did. Even Roshi. That's not much of a moment.
3: Only because Toriyama seems to only want to write in contrived power boosts for Goku and Vegeta. It would be simple to make the rest of the cast relevant again, but they just don't want to.
Plus I'm just not judging the Future Trunks arc until it's over.
ArchedThunder wrote:
Well with his base form being above SSJ2 and potentially equal to SSJ3 I don't think it's a stretch to say that Rose Black will be equal to or stronger than Blue Goku.
I'd like that but I'm not sure, that'd mean SSJB is only 50x SSJ3 but power scales are upside down anyways
Simple, just say that the form has an even bigger power boost than regular SSJ because of the nature of who he is.
I don't see ssb being a 50 x multiplier anyways from ss3. Why would it need to be considering their base forms are so high.
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dbzfan7 wrote:
Also I swear SSJ2 is getting a lot more time lately to shine, just so they can try and make SSJB look different from Super Saiyan. It's clearly SSJ2 hairstyle they keep showing.
I don't think that's the reason. It makes sense for Trunks to be a SSJ2, he trained for x years.
ArchedThunder wrote:Simple, just say that the form has an even bigger power boost than regular SSJ because of the nature of who he is.
I would buy that. There's no actual in-universe multipliers for any form besides the Kaioken. It can be as strong as it need to be.
dbzfan7 wrote:
Also I swear SSJ2 is getting a lot more time lately to shine, just so they can try and make SSJB look different from Super Saiyan. It's clearly SSJ2 hairstyle they keep showing.
I don't think that's the reason. It makes sense for Trunks to be a SSJ2, he trained for x years.
I meant more for Goku. Trunks doesn't have an SSJB form. Goku has been using SSJ2 a lot lately. Before they practically ignored SSJ2, and now all the sudden it's been showing up so much more. I think it's to add to the illusion of SSJB being different.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Well, that, and bringing it back to prominence for merchandise. Which seems the most obvious reason. The tournament arc had a lot of regular SSJ and SSB, so this arc is using a lot of SSJ2.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.
MozillaVulpix wrote:Well, that, and bringing it back to prominence for merchandise. Which seems the most obvious reason. The tournament arc had a lot of regular SSJ and SSB, so this arc is using a lot of SSJ2.
More to my point is them referring to SSJ2 as SSJ for some reason. Which is really strange.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Now I SEE why Trunks has blue hair lol, I was born with blonde hair and dye itself to brown... if you felt he same way with different hair color as a kid to adults you would kn ow why, I guess that what they put it that way.
dbzfan7 wrote:More to my point is them referring to SSJ2 as SSJ for some reason. Which is really strange.
Well, the only people who've called it that so far are people who don't really know the Saiyan transformations that well. Goku calls it SSJ2, doesn't he? At least in Episode 49. I feel like "Super Saiyan" is just a placeholder term for characters like Whis and Black for "any transformation of a Saiyan that makes their hair turn blonde".
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.
Did anyone see the Dragon Ball Heroes trailer where Goku appears fighting Black in the future and Zamasu was watching the fight with an evil smirk and with Gowasu's green potara earing on his left ear??
dbzfan7 wrote:More to my point is them referring to SSJ2 as SSJ for some reason. Which is really strange.
Well, the only people who've called it that so far are people who don't really know the Saiyan transformations that well. Goku calls it SSJ2, doesn't he? At least in Episode 49. I feel like "Super Saiyan" is just a placeholder term for characters like Whis and Black for "any transformation of a Saiyan that makes their hair turn blonde".
Yeah I'm sure this has happened in movies, Super anime, etc.. Basically anyone who is not apart of the main cast usually refers to SSJ1-3 as Super Saiyan. Reaction to Goku SSJ2: "So this is the power of the Super Saiyan" and stuff like that. Even Golden Freeza called "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" Super Saiyan with blue hair dye.
dbzfan7 wrote:More to my point is them referring to SSJ2 as SSJ for some reason. Which is really strange.
Well, the only people who've called it that so far are people who don't really know the Saiyan transformations that well. Goku calls it SSJ2, doesn't he? At least in Episode 49. I feel like "Super Saiyan" is just a placeholder term for characters like Whis and Black for "any transformation of a Saiyan that makes their hair turn blonde".
Even in 49 or maybe it was 50, they inconsistently had Goku switch between SSJ and SSJ2 between shots which only adds fuel to the fire. I believe they mention SSJ2 then, and then next episode just call it SSJ.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
That is kanji for "Grand". Therefore, speculation currently is that that character is a grand attendant or kai of sorts.
Most likely the former as he even has that orange symbol, which in his case is a triangle with the pointy end pointing down, while Whis has a rhombus and Vados has a circle.
I'm going to point this out again since sailorspazz's post went completely ignored. It's Rosé, not Rose. It's not named after the flower or the colour. Instead, it's (probably) named after the wine (which is still pink, but yeah...).
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