Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[namekiansaiyan]

Maybe they need that the Trunks vs Vegeta would be short with Trunks sulking and Vegeta moaning.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

A bit down from last week. The roller coaster of Super ratings continues...

Overall it's good though right? There's no risk of it ending soon is there? I want super to do great so we can get a SHIT TON of episodes.

[Lujin_16]

Lol why would super end because of the rating 5,8??? lol..In the beginning of super they have had 4.0-4.5 ratings so??

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

A bit down from last week. The roller coaster of Super ratings continues...

Overall it's good though right? There's no risk of it ending soon is there? I want super to do great so we can get a SHIT TON of episodes.

For perspective, Naruto Shippuden (a 450+ episodes anime) has not being in the top ten rating for over 2 years until 2 weeks ago but then return to be below the top ten rating.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Lol why would super end because of the rating 5,8??? lol..In the beginning of super they have had 4.0-4.5 ratings so??

I haven't kept track of it so sorry if I don't get these ratings systems, or how it's doing. Plus doesn't Japanese shows not make money off commercials and it's the sales that support it for toys and such or am I mis informed?

[Bigivel]

Lol why would super end because of the rating 5,8??? lol..In the beginning of super they have had 4.0-4.5 ratings so??

I haven't kept track of it so sorry if I don't get these ratings systems, or how it's doing. Plus doesn't Japanese shows not make money off commercials and it's the sales that support it for toys and such or am I mis informed?

Misinformed!
Everything from TV, Merchandise(not only Toys) and other things make money and they all are important. Also is important to understand a franchise isn't divided by TV vs Merchandise, TV makes part of a bigger group of sales called Film(TV, Disks, Movies, Others) and Merchandise, also called Character Business, is the grouping of 2 things, Licensing + Sales of Goods.
This two groups in average sell the same thing though it really depends of the period of time. I believe that right now with the boom in International Licensing, the Character Business is doing better.

In fact, the 1st quarter of 2017 Financial Year(April to 30 June of 2016) from Toei Animation came out, so we can take a look, specially with Dragon Ball performance .

In terms of TV series Toei Animation in general earned: 953 Million yen.
In terms of Film earned 2.93 Billion Yen, Licensing earned 4.16 Billion Yen and Sales of Goods earned 1.76 Billion Yen.(NOTE: The sum of this 3 almost certainly places Toei around the Top 4 anime Studios in sales of this year, already!)

Dragon Ball Super continued its great increase in sales!

In Domestic Licensing went from last year 425 Million Yen to 787 Million Yen, a 80% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 80 Million Yen.
In Overseas Licensing went from last year 247 Million Yen to 652 Million Yen, a 64% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 61 Million Yen.
In Overseas Film went from last year 240 Million Yen to 458 Million Yen, a 91% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 73 Million yen.

[FortuneSSJ]

I haven't kept track of it so sorry if I don't get these ratings systems, or how it's doing. Plus doesn't Japanese shows not make money off commercials and it's the sales that support it for toys and such or am I mis informed?

Dragon Ball frachise as a whole is doing fantastic. When it comes to merchandising this year Dragon Ball managed to beat One Piece, which is something that didn't happen since 2010.

Super is one of the main reasons for that. It's doing great and the franchise will only make more money, when other counries start airing the show.
Toei doesn't have more profitable shows than Dragonball and One Piece, so replace it for another show doesn't make sense.

For now DBS would only be canceled if something really terrible happened. Let's hope nothing of that magnitude happens.

In October, DBS will get Monster Hunter as it's own lead-in, which means we can see the ratings increasing, because DBS will benefit from Monster Hunter, just like One Piece benefits from DBS.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Lol why would super end because of the rating 5,8??? lol..In the beginning of super they have had 4.0-4.5 ratings so??

I haven't kept track of it so sorry if I don't get these ratings systems, or how it's doing. Plus doesn't Japanese shows not make money off commercials and it's the sales that support it for toys and such or am I mis informed?

Misinformed!
Everything from TV, Merchandise(not only Toys) and other things make money and they all are important. Also is important to understand a franchise isn't divided by TV vs Merchandise, TV makes part of a bigger group of sales called Film(TV, Disks, Movies, Others) and Merchandise, also called Character Business, is the grouping of 2 things, Licensing + Sales of Goods.
This two groups in average sell the same thing though it really depends of the period of time. I believe that right now with the boom in International Licensing, the Character Business is doing better.

In fact, the 1st quarter of 2017 Financial Year(April to 30 June of 2016) from Toei Animation came out, so we can take a look, specially with Dragon Ball performance .

In terms of TV series Toei Animation in general earned: 953 Million yen.
In terms of Film earned 2.93 Billion Yen, Licensing earned 4.16 Billion Yen and Sales of Goods earned 1.76 Billion Yen.(NOTE: The sum of this 3 almost certainly places Toei around the Top 4 anime Studios in sales of this year, already!)

Dragon Ball Super continued its great increase in sales!

In Domestic Licensing went from last year 425 Million Yen to 787 Million Yen, a 80% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 80 Million Yen.
In Overseas Licensing went from last year 247 Million Yen to 652 Million Yen, a 64% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 61 Million Yen.
In Overseas Film went from last year 240 Million Yen to 458 Million Yen, a 91% increase! In 2013 the series was doing 73 Million yen.

Thanks for the info. Glad I know now. I want super to do well. I can't wait till it comes to the us so I can help keep it on the right track!

I haven't kept track of it so sorry if I don't get these ratings systems, or how it's doing. Plus doesn't Japanese shows not make money off commercials and it's the sales that support it for toys and such or am I mis informed?

Dragon Ball frachise as a whole is doing fantastic. When it comes to merchandising, this year Dragon Ball managed to beat One Piece, which is something that didn't happen since 2010..

Super is one of the main reasons for that. It's doing great and the franchise will only make more money, when other counries start airing the show.
Toei doesn't have more profitable shows than Dragonball and One Piece.
For now DBS would only be canceled if something really terrible happened. Let's hope nothing of that magnitude happens.

In October DBS will get Monster Hunter as it's own lead-in, which means we can see the ratings increase, because DBS will benefit from Monster Hunter, just like One Piece benefits from DBS,

YES!
i'm very happy about this.

[nite_jay]

These breaks might be the main reason why there's been a view drop.

Hopefully. But hasn't one piece been going through the same breaks?

One Piece is heading into a new arc in the anime, plus it's atm an untouchable franchise.

I do partly blame the breaks on the drop with Dragon Ball Super though. We've got another one this week and then a third the week of September 18th.

I also partly blame it on Pilaf Gang, but that part might just be because I can only handle them in small doses and would rather more time be devoted to training.

I could probably tolerate Pilaf if that damn somg didn't play everytime there's any antics.

[Bigivel]

In October, DBS will get Monster Hunter as it's own lead-in, which means we can see the ratings increasing, because DBS will benefit from Monster Hunter, just like One Piece benefits from DBS.

That conflicts with Precure airing! Certainly Toei and TV Asahi will not be happy with that. Unless Precure changes timeslot!

[Chuquita]

I hope this leads to Toei stepping it up with Precure. Last season's (Go!Pri) action was so good and this season (MahoPre) has been kinda blah imo.

[Sodhi]

unfortunately precure is going through productions problem too. It was evident before the first episode aired, just like in Super. Also, i have not seen the new precure in top 10 since the first episode?

[Bigivel]

unfortunately precure is going through productions problem too. It was evident before the first episode aired, just like in Super. Also, i have not seen the new precure in top 10 since the first episode?

~

In a good number of time it appeared in the Top 10!

What was evident before the first episode! Precure is a meta series that airs back to back each different season. Are you saying that got that they were with problems in Witch Precure given how things went in Go! Princess Precure last episodes?

[Sodhi]

Here you go with the problems.

Precure seems to have some internal issues in the entire production process this year, not just the animation. http://precure.livejournal.com/3035489. ... #t50468449. Crystal S3 seems to be the only Toei show to avoid it recently.

Mitsuka not having storyboarded past Episode #1 is one of the biggest pieces of damning evidence. After all, Chioka Kimitoshi never storyboarded despite being credited as series director as Episode #1-46 of Dragon Ball Super. Series Director Hatano Morio hasn't storyboarded since Episode #14, either.

Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Crystal Season III somehow got away with good enough scheduling to be half finished three months before it even began airing.

[kinisking]

These breaks might be the main reason why there's been a view drop.

Hopefully. But hasn't one piece been going through the same breaks?

One Piece is heading into a new arc in the anime, plus it's atm an untouchable franchise.

I do partly blame the breaks on the drop with Dragon Ball Super though. We've got another one this week and then a third the week of September 18th.

I also partly blame it on Pilaf Gang, but that part might just be because I can only handle them in small doses and would rather more time be devoted to training.

I agree. Pilaf gang should have never came back. I always hated them even before Super and it's one of the worst decisions that Super has made. I've always loved training though!

[Sodhi]

I have a feeling that next episode would also not get an high rating. However I do think the fight from #56-57 and beyond will go back to higher ratings.

[HeroR]

I agree. Pilaf gang should have never came back. I always hated them even before Super and it's one of the worst decisions that Super has made. I've always loved training though!

I am overall neutral, but overall I enjoy the Pilaf gang and glad they returned after being missing from Z. They make better comedy relief than Bulma on Namek. I also like the hidden depth they shown the last episode like Pilaf improving the time machine's programming and Shu knowing what image-training is. There has only been a few times I find them off-putting and I find the complaining about the Pilaf to be more annoying than the Pilaf gang. I mean, people whine even if they're on-screen for two minutes.

[perucho1990]

Its more like people were expecting Black to appear again but he only appeared in Trunks "imagination".

Notice the rating was higher when he had screen time.

[kinisking]

I agree. Pilaf gang should have never came back. I always hated them even before Super and it's one of the worst decisions that Super has made. I've always loved training though!

I am overall neutral, but overall I enjoy the Pilaf gang and glad they returned after being missing from Z. They make better comedy relief than Bulma on Namek. I also like the hidden depth they shown the last episode like Pilaf improving the time machine's programming and Shu knowing what image-training is. There has only been a few times I find them off-putting and I find the complaining about the Pilaf to be more annoying than the Pilaf gang. I mean, people whine even if they're on-screen for two minutes.

It doesn't matter how long they are on though. Any second they are there is a second wasted that could be furthering the plot. Two minutes is longer than the training scene with trunks was. Plus they are there every episode. It's ridiculous that iconic characters like gohan, krillin and piccolo are on screen less than these jokesters. Id rather have comic relief come from goten and trunks

[HeroR]

It doesn't matter how long they are on though. Any second they are there is a second wasted that could be furthering the plot. Two minutes is longer than the training scene with trunks was. Plus they are there every episode. It's ridiculous that iconic characters like gohan, krillin and piccolo are on screen less than these jokesters. Id rather have comic relief come from goten and trunks

Given how the pacing is going, wasting two minutes is hardly a thing. And the Pilaf gang are going through a revival, especially since Future Mai plays a big role in this arc, while Gohan, Piccolo, and Krillin are yesterday news. The Pilaf gang are even in the ending cut boards of the OP, beating out even Vegeta. So, love or hate them, they are more important than the characters you named.

And I really don't care to see two an extra minutes of Trunks getting his ass beat by Vegeta. The training session was as long as it need to be, especially since it wasn't the training session that people were wanking it to be. And always remember, iconic characters like Tien, Yamcha, and Master Roshi got replaced by a whining, cowardly little brat named Gohan who wasted more time in the anime filler than the Pilaf gang.