"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Michelle91]

I like Frost over Coola. In the Japanese version of DBZ Movie 5, Coola is nothing that special. Most of his personality comes from the dub. If he did not had a cool transformation, he would have been forgotten by now. With Frost, he is not 100% like Freeza since he does good things to cover up his evil actions and loves a good fight. He was very polite to his opponents before entering in battle.

[Kanassa]

How are they not? Frost looks like Frieza, he acts like Frieza (post-reveal), he has the same VA as Frieza, he has the same goals as Frieza, and has nothing that distinguishes him from Frieza, besides the poison and deception. Sure, he went about his business differently than his counterpart, but did it to attain the same thing: a lavish lifestyle and glory

He is no where near as arrogant as Frieza, more cunning, manipulative and intelligent then Frieza and different methods. Overall they have different personalities. They're goals differ in scale and in intent, where Frost just wants riches and land, Frieza is a psychopath who simply wants people to fear him and aknoledge him as the best in the universe while taking delight in the misery of others. Frost is somone who does what ever he needs to, to get what he wants. Frieza is someone who wants to do what he likes, and bask in the suffering he causes.

On a side note, Frost is the worst character ever introduced in this entire franchise, imo. No exaggeration.

I think Kid Gohan and Goten beat Frost in that race.

[MCDaveG]

That "retard" remark is getting old he was only like that for 2 episodes and its only been that one writer that made Goku that way then suddenly thats all Goku's about. Yet another small thing taking totally out of proportion this fanbase is going to implode if this keeps up.

I've been calling Super's Goku a retard for months or half a year now. I think it caught on.

He's not retarded, rather senile. The 50th mark of his age is coming fast and with so much blows to the head, it would be miracle if you haven't turned cretin.
Toriyama is wise in this matter, not going over the epilogue portion, as having our hero with diapers and wetting himself would be even worse.

[Anime Kitten]

I think Kid Gohan and GOTEN beat Frost in that race.

Gonna disagree with you there.

Didn't realize until I listened to the podcast... Super's off for TWO WEEKS?!

[Xeztin]

I think Kid Gohan and GOTEN beat Frost in that race.

Gonna disagree with you there.

Didn't realize until I listened to the podcast... Super's off for TWO WEEKS?!

I thought it was just this week

[Anime Kitten]

I thought it was just this week

Same here, until I listened to it. Apparently two weeks... Eh, maybe I'll catch up on the last two before then.

[Boo Machine]

Isn't the date for the next episode the 21st ? So this upcoming weekend we get no new episode. But the Weekend after we should be getting a new episode.

The gap between the last episode and the next is technically 2 weeks, but I don't think we're actually having no new episodes back to back.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't checked in a couple of days and haven't listened to the podcast yet, so the dates could have changed I suppose.

[Anime Kitten]

Isn't the date for the next episode the 21st ? So this upcoming weekend we get no new episode. But the Weekend after we should be getting a new episode.

The gap between the last episode and the next is technically 2 weeks, but I don't think we're actually having no new episodes back to back.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't checked in a couple of days and haven't listened to the podcast yet, so the dates could have changed I suppose.

Yeah, I think that's it. Two weeks from 54 to 55. Good, I got kinda worried there. Still, I need to use this week off to catch up.

[Sodhi]

No need to worry guys. Next episode is on the 21st, meaning we only have one week break. Then again on September 18th.

[kinisking]

I think Kid Gohan and GOTEN beat Frost in that race.

Gonna disagree with you there.

Didn't realize until I listened to the podcast... Super's off for TWO WEEKS?!

I'm going to disagree with him on all points Haha. Saiyan saga kid gohan was kind of weak, but namek saga kid gohan was great. I like goten too but not as much. I also like frost. Pilaf or Mr Satan is the worst character on the show imo.

[Alee9977]

How are they not? Frost looks like Frieza, he acts like Frieza (post-reveal), he has the same VA as Frieza, he has the same goals as Frieza, and has nothing that distinguishes him from Frieza, besides the poison and deception. Sure, he went about his business differently than his counterpart, but did it to attain the same thing: a lavish lifestyle and glory

He is no where near as arrogant as Frieza, more cunning, manipulative and intelligent then Frieza and different methods. Overall they have different personalities. They're goals differ in scale and in intent, where Frost just wants riches and land, Frieza is a psychopath who simply wants people to fear him and aknoledge him as the best in the universe while taking delight in the misery of others. Frost is somone who does what ever he needs to, to get what he wants. Frieza is someone who wants to do what he likes, and bask in the suffering he causes.

On a side note, Frost is the worst character ever introduced in this entire franchise, imo. No exaggeration.

I think Kid Gohan and Goten beat Frost in that race.

Really? Kid Gohan, Goten and Frost? What, do you think that Botamo or Magetta are better characters than those three?

[Lord Beerus]

How are they not? Frost looks like Frieza, he acts like Frieza (post-reveal), he has the same VA as Frieza, he has the same goals as Frieza, and has nothing that distinguishes him from Frieza, besides the poison and deception. Sure, he went about his business differently than his counterpart, but did it to attain the same thing: a lavish lifestyle and glory

He is no where near as arrogant as Frieza, more cunning, manipulative and intelligent then Frieza and different methods. Overall they have different personalities. They're goals differ in scale and in intent, where Frost just wants riches and land, Frieza is a psychopath who simply wants people to fear him and aknoledge him as the best in the universe while taking delight in the misery of others. Frost is somone who does what ever he needs to, to get what he wants. Frieza is someone who wants to do what he likes, and bask in the suffering he causes.

On a side note, Frost is the worst character ever introduced in this entire franchise, imo. No exaggeration.

I think Kid Gohan and Goten beat Frost in that race.

Really? Kid Gohan, Goten and Frost? What, do you think that Botamo or Magetta are better characters than those three?

Megetta is awesome. And even though he doesn't speak, he has more charm and imagination about him that most of his teammates. Botamo and Frost are forgettable characters.

[fadeddreams5]

How are they not? Frost looks like Frieza, he acts like Frieza (post-reveal), he has the same VA as Frieza, he has the same goals as Frieza, and has nothing that distinguishes him from Frieza, besides the poison and deception. Sure, he went about his business differently than his counterpart, but did it to attain the same thing: a lavish lifestyle and glory

He is no where near as arrogant as Frieza, more cunning, manipulative and intelligent then Frieza and different methods. Overall they have different personalities. They're goals differ in scale and in intent, where Frost just wants riches and land, Frieza is a psychopath who simply wants people to fear him and aknoledge him as the best in the universe while taking delight in the misery of others. Frost is somone who does what ever he needs to, to get what he wants. Frieza is someone who wants to do what he likes, and bask in the suffering he causes.

On a side note, Frost is the worst character ever introduced in this entire franchise, imo. No exaggeration.

I think Kid Gohan and Goten beat Frost in that race.

Really? Kid Gohan, Goten and Frost? What, do you think that Botamo or Magetta are better characters than those three?

I agree that Goten is a terrible character. I'm absolutely flabbergasted he named Kid Gohan, one of the most popular characters in the entire series, but yes, Frost is terrible.

Magetta and Botamo are cute side characters (I love the former, btw) who have no impact or bearing to the story whatsoever, unlike someone like Goten, who's entire existence cheapened the SSJ transformation, has no personality of his own, has an uninspired character design, and is a major character (albeit, with no major role atm). You can say the same for Frost, in regards to what I mentioned about Magetta and Botamo, I suppose, but being that he is Frieza 2.0, such an important villain in the story, I absolutely detest him, ESPECIALLY considering we've already had King Cold, Cooler, and Chilled in the past. At least Cooler had something going for him with his badass original design, 5th form, and slightly more collected personality.

[Cipher]

I'm not going to call Frost or the "twist" to his personality particularly inspired or engaging, but -- he's a one-off tournament opponent, you know? This series has had so many non-characters/extras, I can't imagine getting particularly upset over one or calling them the "worst."

Is Frost really any worse that Pui-Pui? Do either matter? They're just quirky little obstacles in a larger arc. As far as minor tournament opponents, you could do worse than the "'is he good/isn't he" game that crops up from bringing an alternate universe's "Freeza" to the scene.

From an in-universe perspective, if Universes 6 and 7 are really "twins" and share common geography and species (which -- let's not even get into how the hell that happens with the butterfly effect), and Freeza is strong as fuck compared to most beings in Universe 7, it also makes sense that someone from Freeza's race would be among those chosen to participate in the tournament.

[Kanassa]

How are they not? Frost looks like Frieza, he acts like Frieza (post-reveal), he has the same VA as Frieza, he has the same goals as Frieza, and has nothing that distinguishes him from Frieza, besides the poison and deception. Sure, he went about his business differently than his counterpart, but did it to attain the same thing: a lavish lifestyle and glory

He is no where near as arrogant as Frieza, more cunning, manipulative and intelligent then Frieza and different methods. Overall they have different personalities. They're goals differ in scale and in intent, where Frost just wants riches and land, Frieza is a psychopath who simply wants people to fear him and aknoledge him as the best in the universe while taking delight in the misery of others. Frost is somone who does what ever he needs to, to get what he wants. Frieza is someone who wants to do what he likes, and bask in the suffering he causes.

On a side note, Frost is the worst character ever introduced in this entire franchise, imo. No exaggeration.

I think Kid Gohan and Goten beat Frost in that race.

Really? Kid Gohan, Goten What, do you think that Botamo or Magetta are better characters than those three?

Yep, neither of those two annoy or bore me as much.

[fadeddreams5]

I'm not going to call Frost or the "twist" to his personality particularly inspired or engaging, but -- he's a one-off tournament opponent, you know? This series has had so many non-characters/extras, I can't imagine getting particularly upset over one or calling them the "worst."

Is Frost really any worse that Pui-Pui? Do either matter? They're just quirky little obstacles in a larger arc. As far as minor tournament opponents, you could do worse than the "'is he good/isn't he" game that crops up from bringing an alternate universe's "Freeza" to the scene.

From an in-universe perspective, if Universes 6 and 7 are really "twins" and share common geography and species (which -- let's not even get into how the hell that happens with the butterfly effect), and Freeza is strong as fuck compared to most beings in Universe 7, it also makes sense that someone from Freeza's race would be among those chosen to participate in the tournament.

I have a feeling they're all going to be reappearing in the next tournament arc. If this plays out like a video game, they'll all have power-ups too. Hit will be able to use his assassin moves, Magetta may not be easily offended anymore, Frost *shudders* may have a golden form, etc.

[Cipher]

I have a feeling they're all going to be reappearing in the next tournament arc. If this plays out like a video game, they'll all have power-ups too. Hit will be able to use his assassin moves, Magetta may not be easily offended anymore, Frost *shudders* may have a golden form, etc.

I sincerely hope Platinum Frost wins the tournament, just so I can watch this board implode.

[HeroR]

You don't think Black is Zamasu? Then how do they have the same ki except Black's is more evil?

Similar, not the same.

That's what the "except Black's ki is more evil" part is for. When they were talking about Zamasu and Black's respective kis, Whis mentioned only that the difference was Black's ki was more evil, and nothing else. If there were any other difference it would have been mentioned.

I guess there is a possibility that some evil guy killed Zamasu and put his ki into Goku's body (that's hard to even put into words), maybe even Gomasu. But that is very confusing and unlikely after all the attention Zamasu has received.

I'm personally a fan of the theory that Zamasu is going to split himself into two halves, good and evil. Evil Zamasu will kill the good half (which is why you see him falling in the OP) and become Black.

Goku said it was similar, but different. Even Whis had to admit that the ki wasn't exactly the same. Zamasu not being evil like Black was only part of it. And why would an evil Zamasu look like Goku? And that still wouldn't explain how he knew Vegeta and why did he say, 'So, you're Son Goku', like this was the first time he personally met him. Also, if 'Evil Zamasu' is like Piccolo or Kami, he can't kill his good half since that would also kill him.

[fadeddreams5]

I have a feeling they're all going to be reappearing in the next tournament arc. If this plays out like a video game, they'll all have power-ups too. Hit will be able to use his assassin moves, Magetta may not be easily offended anymore, Frost *shudders* may have a golden form, etc.

I sincerely hope Platinum Frost wins the tournament, just so I can watch this board implode.

I want Universe 7 to seemingly lose in the final match, only for a rose to be shot down on the floor. The man responsible: Gohan. He leaps down from the ceiling, takes over as the team's last contestant, powers up to Mystic Super Saiyan Aurora and beats down the final opponent with one punch, all without saying a word, and later putting on goggles and walking away into the sunset exactly like this.

[Anime Kitten]

I can't believe this hate, and I mean HATE over Goten... I wonder how few people would miss him if he died and stayed dead, besides me and a certain other user on here.