Has FUNi announced any plans to officially release the OVA?

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:27 pm

FUNi probably has the money to throw away so I wonder why they haven't done it yet. Rights my ass.

Hell, the music even sounds Bruce Faulconer quality or worse.

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:59 pm

I think it will be NEVER licensed. NO company has bought the rights for it yet and I doubt it will ever happen.

Reason? You can not dub this (probably). Since it's a video game guide/FMV game (whatever you want - I will not enter the whole useless discussion about what it really is) there is probably no IT (international track) for a dub. If a company would license it, they have to make an own IT and that is far too expensive/too much work.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:03 pm

Duo wrote:I find it a bit absurd you jumped across a canyon to that conclusion.

What canyons have I jumped, exactly? FMVs first appeared on CD formats, and to my knowledge something such as "Plan" could not have be properly formatted to run on an NES cartridge without experiencing huge lacks that probably would have rendered it unwatchable by most, if not everybody.

Seriously, everyone, CALM DOWN. M'kay, so we don't agree over the exact title to give to a confusing piece of animation, so now we're calling people ignorant and names and getting all pissed at eachother?!

Absolutely stupid. Stop it.

The reason why people don't agree is because Daizex has drilled it into people's heads that "there is no OVA." This was understandable back when it was still a relatively obscure video, but everything we know about it now points to the fact that it was.

I'm personally not pissed at anyone; I just want the topic to finally receive some clarity, seeing as the majority of the fans here refer to it as "Playdia footage," when it quite simply is not.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:17 pm

Wether or not it is an OVA is not the subject of the thread. The question that was asked is if it will ever be released here in North America by FUNimation. There is no definitive answer, and everything that anyone says (in regards to the actual thread), is just opinion.

Now that that is out of the way, has FUNimation even showed any interest in the footage?

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:19 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:
Duo wrote:I find it a bit absurd you jumped across a canyon to that conclusion.
What canyons have I jumped, exactly? FMVs first appeared on CD formats, and to my knowledge something such as "Plan" could not have be properly formatted to run on an NES cartridge without experiencing huge lacks that probably would have rendered it unwatchable by most, if not everybody.

Uhhh.... what? Ok, obviously you're missing a few points. The footage was never used on the NES, it was used on the Playdia, a CD base system. Thus your argument is entirely void.

Acid_Reign wrote:The reason why people don't agree is because Daizex has drilled it into people's heads that "there is no OVA." This was understandable back when it was still a relatively obscure video, but everything we know about it now points to the fact that it was.

I'm personally not pissed at anyone; I just want the topic to finally receive some clarity, seeing as the majority of the fans here refer to it as "Playdia footage," when it quite simply is not.

Actually, the simple fact is, no, there wasn't/isn't an OVA. I'll explain. An OVA is a direct to video movie. From what I can remember, Plan to Erradicate the Saiya-jins doesn't classify as one. Why? I'll explain.

This begins with the NES game. That came first. After this game they decided to release a visual stratagy guide for the game. How do they do this? They take the in-game footage and then make brand new animation to occur around it to show the battles. This footage is then expanded upon to make a new game made entirely from video.

Follow? The video isn't a movie. It's a walkthrough. Would a video walkthrough for Sagas with brand new video to show the boss battles, but in game footage between that, be called an OVA? No, it'd be called a video walkthrough.

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:36 pm

Acid_Reign, just to set the record straight, I didn't say that the footage was on the NES. Christ, I'm not that retarded.

I said, first, "Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans" was an NES game.

Second, a video guide for the NES game (with the new animations and voices and stuff that we call the 'OVA') came out on vhs.

Then the footage from the video guide was used on the Playdia game.

It's not like it was made for an exact home release, and I think the term OVA is a bit um... inaccurate.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:40 pm

We don't need to argue over what to call it, because we've all read the same information about it. Everyone's just saying the same thing over and over and over and over, and not actually reading what others are saying.

Like every other message board on the internet. Fancy that.

Anyway, please keep it to the topic at hand... which... you can read as the subject... yep, that's how it works...!

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:18 pm

I'm sorry if this has gone off-topic. However, since I still think it needs to be addressed, I've created another topic here.

PythonMonty504 · Post by **PythonMonty504** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:28 pm

The fact that after all these years, and FUNi has never once even commented on it's existence, is not a good sign they'll ever release it.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:36 pm

Alucard wrote:
Acid_Reign wrote:
Gaiash wrote:There is no OVA
When will Daizex get past this? Yes, there is. Toei themselves lists it as an OVA on their website.
I think you should actually read the article before commenting on it.

Well, the article also says:

DaizenshuuEX wrote:Call it what you may, but it's not an OVA... it's video game footage.

It wasn't video game footage when it was released.
And saying it's "not" an OVA... Well...

DaizenshuuEX wrote:It doesn't seem to be referred to as an OVA by Toei, themselves

It is referred to as an OVA by Tôei, actually. So...

Thanos wrote:The point is, it's used in a Playdia game.

It was recycled in a Playdia game.
Or are you saying that since some of the TV show' BGM were eventually used in video games, that means they were actually game music?

Xyex wrote:The video isn't a movie. It's a walkthrough.

Have you watched the thing? There are no explanations whatsoever, only a few seconds of Famicom maps to show where the characters are headed. Hardly what I'd call a "walkthrough".

Anyway, it has a story, it's new animation, it was released on video -> it's an OVA. And Tôei themselves say so.
What's so hard to understand about that?

nathantheguitarist wrote:It's not like it was made for an exact home release

Er... It was.

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:42 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
nathantheguitarist wrote:It's not like it was made for an exact home release
Er... It was.

"Home Release" = Standard Home video that you would find in any local video store.

I'm assuming these vhs were only available in game stores. And it wasn't made in the style of a regular movie or OVA, it was made as a guide to the game(s).

I'm not an idiot.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:48 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:Have you watched the thing? There are no explanations whatsoever, only a few seconds of Famicom maps to show where the characters are headed. Hardly what I'd call a "walkthrough".

When someone buys a "Visual Strategy Guide" that has the same name as the game they're playing and shows a map from the game they're playing and tells the same story as the game they're playing and by progress of the story tells them were to go in the game they're playing...

They don't need any more context than that.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:55 am

VegettoEX wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:Have you watched the thing? There are no explanations whatsoever, only a few seconds of Famicom maps to show where the characters are headed. Hardly what I'd call a "walkthrough".
When someone buys a "Visual Strategy Guide" that has the same name as the game they're playing and shows a map from the game they're playing and tells the same story as the game they're playing and by progress of the story tells them were to go in the game they're playing...

They don't need any more context than that.

Exactly. You'll find Walkthroughs on GameFAQs that are nothing more than "Go here next. Now go here. Ok, now go back to location 3." They guide you as to where to go, not exactly what to do. The new animation was used to replace pages upon pages of text (thus making it more interesting to follow) and to make the fights look flashier.

Anyway, on the subject of the topic. While it'd be neat to see it I really doubt they'll do it. Not unless they release the Playdia game as an interactive movie. I seriously doubt they see a market for a video game walkthrough for an NES game that was never released in the US....

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:15 am

nathantheguitarist wrote:"Home Release" = Standard Home video that you would find in any local video store.

Er... What part of "home release" means that you should find it in any local video store?
Besides, that's irrelevant. OVA are meant for the video market, and that's about it. Nobody said anything about where you should be able to find them.
(besides, does anybody actually know where/how the videos we're talking about were available exactly?)

it wasn't made in the style of a regular movie or OVA, it was made as a guide to the game(s).

(there was only one game, at the time)
So what? It's still Original Animation produced for the the Video market. I mean... It's all there.

VegettoEX wrote:When someone buys a "Visual Strategy Guide"

"Kôshiki Visual Guide" ("official visual guide"), actually. No "strategy", as far as I know.

that has the same name as the game they're playing and shows a map from the game they're playing and tells the same story as the game they're playing and by progress of the story tells them were to go in the game they're playing...

Remove the few seconds of Famicom maps, and you get the same thing as any other game-based anime. "Star Ocean EX", for example, is a bona fide TV series, not a "weird hybrid thing that has no name".

Xyex wrote:You'll find Walkthroughs on GameFAQs that are nothing more than "Go here next. Now go here. Ok, now go back to location 3." They guide you as to where to go, not exactly what to do. The new animation was used to replace pages upon pages of text (thus making it more interesting to follow) and to make the fights look flashier.

Well, I guess that means all those anime works faithfully based on games weren't really "TV series" or "OVA" after all, then.
And maybe the other TV series and OVAs weren't really that either. Maybe they were actually "scripts", where some animation was used to replace pages upon pages of text in order to make things look flashier.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:01 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:When someone buys a "Visual Strategy Guide"
"Kôshiki Visual Guide" ("official visual guide"), actually. No "strategy", as far as I know.

When you start arguing semantics, you don't have much left to argue

.

Folks... honestly... please feel free to call it whatever the bloody Hell you want to call it (other than "Nancy"... I don't think Bandai would appreciate that). I've asked this before and don't think I ever got an answer... but does the Sailormoon community have the same types of discussions about their own Playdia game(s)? Other anime series? I mean, the Playdia pretty much came out as Bandai's anime-FMV-game machine

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Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:29 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:"Kôshiki Visual Guide" ("official visual guide"), actually. No "strategy", as far as I know.
When you start arguing semantics, you don't have much left to argue .

I thought that was worth mentioning, considering the main argument for the "no OVA" side is that it's just a walkthrough...
Besides... We've been arguing semantics from the start. And I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with that, as that's what the whole thing is about, here: how to call these videos.

does the Sailormoon community have the same types of discussions about their own Playdia game(s)?

Well, games are games are games...
We're talking about the videos that were released before the Playdia games. Unless the same thing happened with Sailormoon, I don't see why they'd have the same type of discussions...

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:34 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:Well, games are games are games...
We're talking about the videos that were released before the Playdia games. Unless the same thing happened with Sailormoon, I don't see why they'd have the same type of discussions...

Well, that's the thing... I have no idea. I actually just purchased the Sailormoon Playdia game (and the DBZ one I'm missing! Whee!), so I guess I'll just find out first-hand...!

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:32 pm

Well, folks, lets just go all the way back to the beginning ... then jump apprx. 6,000 yearto when this "Thing" was being produced. Was it intended as an OVA, a walkthrough, or something else? Lets not fight over what we see it as now.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:10 pm

With this I don't know why anyone would want to bring it over here. It's as if somebody put the FMV scenes from FFX together to make a story.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:57 am

Super Sonic wrote:With this I don't know why anyone would want to bring it over here. It's as if somebody put the FMV scenes from FFX together to make a story.

Actually, it's as if Final Fantasy X never had FMV scenes, and therefore Square goes back and makes new scenes to better illustrate the plot.

Or something like that.