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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:44 pm

I haven't even read a single one, but the comments about the Goku VS Saitama animation grind my gears. I mean... really? :|
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:49 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I haven't even read a single one, but the comments about the Goku VS Saitama animation grind my gears. I mean... really? :|
It's YouTube comments. I wouldn't give them much credit, especially considering you can artificially inflate the like/dislike system to your own pleasing.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:59 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I haven't even read a single one, but the comments about the Goku VS Saitama animation grind my gears. I mean... really? :|
Actually, Goku VS Saitama grinds my gears. Seriosuly, one was enough but there's about eight of the fucking things now. How many times do you have to pit the same characters against each other before it gets boring?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:01 pm

Here's something else. "All we get now is recolors, why can't we get something original for Super Saiyans?" Recolors are original, as they've never been used. Besides, what's wrong with recolors?
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:02 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I haven't even read a single one, but the comments about the Goku VS Saitama animation grind my gears. I mean... really? :|
People take One Punch Man too seriously. I feel like most anime fans don't get the point behind One Punch Man. Saitama is made to look lame but powerful inside because that's the joke. I think this video sums up pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QsTWt_uFtU
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by nite_jay » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:03 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:I haven't even read a single one, but the comments about the Goku VS Saitama animation grind my gears. I mean... really? :|
Actually, Goku VS Saitama grinds my gears. Seriosuly, one was enough but there's about eight of the fucking things now. How many times do you have to pit the same characters against each other before it gets boring?
He'll probably only stop when he runs out of footage to trace lol.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:10 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Here's something else. "All we get now is recolors, why can't we get something original for Super Saiyans?" Recolors are original, as they've never been used. Besides, what's wrong with recolors?
Recolours is a lot more eye-catching then just increasing the massucle mass and hair length, I won't say that recolouring them is in any way creative, but it's still better then what we already had. No matter if I dislike GT, SS4 was a pretty damn good transformation.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by 404FILENOTFOUND » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:42 am

Kanassa wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:Here's something else. "All we get now is recolors, why can't we get something original for Super Saiyans?" Recolors are original, as they've never been used. Besides, what's wrong with recolors?
Recolours is a lot more eye-catching then just increasing the massucle mass and hair length, I won't say that recolouring them is in any way creative, but it's still better then what we already had. No matter if I dislike GT, SS4 was a pretty damn good transformation.
I think Super is unfortunate in being created after two decades of fan art that every little thing can be considered fan fiction or deviant art tier. Granted SSGSS may not be the bee's knees in trying to look new compared to SS4 but it just makes sense in universe. There was a thread on this and I can't seem to find it but I liked what OP had to say about each transformation.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by sintzu » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:10 am

Anime Kitten wrote:Recolors are original, as they've never been used. Besides, what's wrong with recolors?
It wasn't a big deal at first with Ssjg but then we got 2 more recolors in Ssjb and Golden Freeza and now we're getting a 3rd recolor, SsjP.

And that's not counting the rehashed character designs so fans wanting something original at this point is very understandable and should be expected of Super.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:47 am

1. People who can't accept the fact that other people like Super.
2. People who say hit is a pikkon clone.
3. People who barely read a Gohan complaint and then say "well he doesn't like fighting". Even though most Gohan fans know that and if they read the complaint properly they would know that's been taken into consideration.
4. Bringing up episode 5 animation
5. Trying to defend Super by making DBZ look worse than it is.
6. People using stills and saying it's bad animation.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by ABED » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:11 am

"You're so rigid and unopen to evidence". Translation: You don't agree with me.

This argument is as annoying and almost as ridiculous as "you always believe you are right."
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:33 am

ABED wrote:"You're so rigid and unopen to evidence". Translation: You don't agree with me.

This argument is as annoying and almost as ridiculous as "you always believe you are right."
Where is this coming from?

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by ABED » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:35 am

Bansho64 wrote:
ABED wrote:"You're so rigid and unopen to evidence". Translation: You don't agree with me.

This argument is as annoying and almost as ridiculous as "you always believe you are right."
Where is this coming from?
A few places. I've heard that in a classroom in college and someone just used the response in the Gohan character profile thread.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Deathbringer » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:25 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote: It's bad enough when I talk about her I get called a fake fan for not calling her Bra. Like look, I speak English. I'm using the English names. You wanna use the original name. That's fine. Live and let live, so why are people forcing people to use sub names?
Not to sound like one of those people but her original name IS an English word, it's like calling Trunks "Tolanks"

I'm not calling you a fake fan or anything like that

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:40 am

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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote: It's bad enough when I talk about her I get called a fake fan for not calling her Bra. Like look, I speak English. I'm using the English names. You wanna use the original name. That's fine. Live and let live, so why are people forcing people to use sub names?
Not to sound like one of those people but her original name IS an English word, it's like calling Trunks "Tolanks"

I'm not calling you a fake fan or anything like that
I think they could have left it bra, not that big of a censorship deal but if I watch the version where she's called bulla more I'm gonna call her bulla. Just like how I call krillin krillin and call kakarot - kakarot. it seams weird for me to say kakarot TOE! it just makes me think of toes.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Alruneia » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:05 pm

Deathbringer wrote:Not to sound like one of those people but her original name IS an English word, it's like calling Trunks "Tolanks"
You're talking about original names, but LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta specifically wrote that he was using the English names. Trunks was never called anything but Trunks in the English dub, and that's what we're talking about here. The English dub names specifically. And Bulla's name in the English dub is Bulla. Her English name is established as Bulla, it's as simple as that. Romanisation of her original Japanese name isn't a factor here, since we're talking about the English names, so your "Tolankusu" point is moot. The only determinant for her official English name is her official English name, and what that says is crystal clear.
You can really tell that this grinds my gears good
The Supreme Kai is actually called a Kaioshin, not a Supreme Kai, but we don't pick on people who say "Supreme Kai", right? Should we pick on the Latin dub for calling Chi-Chi "Milk" as well? You probably answered "no" to these questions, and that's why picking on someone for writing Bulla instead of Bra is so stupid. Name changes happen all the time during translation, but they're still official, accepted names in the language they've been translated to, and you're free to use them as long as you're consistent with it! If you're writing your names based on romanisation of the Japanese names (i.e you're dealing with the Japanese version (usually with subs) instead of a dubbed version), then you should probably write Kaio instead of King Kai, Boo instead of Buu, Freeza instead of Frieza, Kaioshin instead of Supreme Kai and so on. Bulla shouldn't just be a random exception to what's otherwise total usage of the English dub names. Most people on Kanzenshuu are already consistent when it comes to this, though! I respect that! When you get inconsistent and specifically attack one name change, that's when you've gone wrong.

I don't mean to attack you or anyone else with this post, but Bulla's name is such a sh*tshow of a debate that I can't help but butt in.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:35 pm

Excellent post. Look, Kanzenshuu at one time simply did not allow you to post "Hercule" or "Frieza" but now you can, I'd imagine because this place grew beyond that and wants to show acceptance to all fans (even of the "evil" Funimation dub). So let's not police the fans on what version of the names they use.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:43 pm

:clap: Good job.

I use the North American names because I'm in North America, and I don't feel the requirement to use the Japanese names. Yet I don't mind people using them (not even that atrocious spelling of Reacoom). I guess it comes down to your preferences.

Anyway, back on-topic: I'm really annoyed when the Tenkaichi series is hated on. Maybe because it's always the same (bad) reasons.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:09 pm

Misinformation. I hate it and I hate how it spreads.
TheGreatness25 wrote:Excellent post. Look, Kanzenshuu at one time simply did not allow you to post "Hercule" or "Frieza" but now you can, I'd imagine because this place grew beyond that and wants to show acceptance to all fans (even of the "evil" Funimation dub). So let's not police the fans on what version of the names they use.
Tbf, that I in Freeza looks ugly as fuck :lol:
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by nite_jay » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:17 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:Misinformation. I hate it and I hate how it spreads.
TheGreatness25 wrote:Excellent post. Look, Kanzenshuu at one time simply did not allow you to post "Hercule" or "Frieza" but now you can, I'd imagine because this place grew beyond that and wants to show acceptance to all fans (even of the "evil" Funimation dub). So let's not police the fans on what version of the names they use.
Tbf, that I in Freeza looks ugly as fuck :lol:
Same! Whenever I see "Frieza" I unintentionally read it as "Fryza". :lol:

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