Omniverse Tournament Ideas

[Lujin_16]

Whis said that the gods of other universes are much more violent maybe we will see a war of universes in the tournament..

[namekiansaiyan]

I want it to be good, but judging off universe 6's tournament I think it'll fall flat in a LOT of ways. I'm keeping low expectations. I want good fighters but judging from when they did 5 they resorted to a FARTING robot....I doubt they can do 5. A lot of canon fodder and then they'll only be like 5-10 real new ones.
I hope it's better then I hope but I'm keeping expectations low personally.

I hope they at least make it the last and final Arc of Super, that way more effort will be placed into this tournament by the writers. I would like to see Majin Buu participate as well, he didn't get to last time for a stupid reason.

It's a good idea to keep your expectations low because it really was just a Goku and Vegeta show the last tourney for the U7 team.

They have to add certain rules, such as you can only use each participant so many times. They basically need to make rules to make sure your whole team needs to do well so there are no 1 or 2 man teams.

[omaro34]

I want it to be good, but judging off universe 6's tournament I think it'll fall flat in a LOT of ways. I'm keeping low expectations. I want good fighters but judging from when they did 5 they resorted to a FARTING robot....I doubt they can do 5. A lot of canon fodder and then they'll only be like 5-10 real new ones.
I hope it's better then I hope but I'm keeping expectations low personally.

I hope they at least make it the last and final Arc of Super, that way more effort will be placed into this tournament by the writers. I would like to see Majin Buu participate as well, he didn't get to last time for a stupid reason.

It's a good idea to keep your expectations low because it really was just a Goku and Vegeta show the last tourney for the U7 team.

They have to add certain rules, such as you can only use each participant so many times. They basically need to make rules to make sure your whole team needs to do well so there are no 1 or 2 man teams.

We just had a tourney of 1 or 2 man teams, we don't need to see the same theme again. A battle royal during the preliminaries would be interesting.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

I want it to be good, but judging off universe 6's tournament I think it'll fall flat in a LOT of ways. I'm keeping low expectations. I want good fighters but judging from when they did 5 they resorted to a FARTING robot....I doubt they can do 5. A lot of canon fodder and then they'll only be like 5-10 real new ones.
I hope it's better then I hope but I'm keeping expectations low personally.

I hope they at least make it the last and final Arc of Super, that way more effort will be placed into this tournament by the writers. I would like to see Majin Buu participate as well, he didn't get to last time for a stupid reason.

It's a good idea to keep your expectations low because it really was just a Goku and Vegeta show the last tourney for the U7 team.

that's what super in general is ;/

I think they MAY and that's a MAy just have the final episode be them leading to the tournament and then not showing it.

[omaro34]

I want it to be good, but judging off universe 6's tournament I think it'll fall flat in a LOT of ways. I'm keeping low expectations. I want good fighters but judging from when they did 5 they resorted to a FARTING robot....I doubt they can do 5. A lot of canon fodder and then they'll only be like 5-10 real new ones.
I hope it's better then I hope but I'm keeping expectations low personally.

I hope they at least make it the last and final Arc of Super, that way more effort will be placed into this tournament by the writers. I would like to see Majin Buu participate as well, he didn't get to last time for a stupid reason.

It's a good idea to keep your expectations low because it really was just a Goku and Vegeta show the last tourney for the U7 team.

that's what super in general is ;/

I think they MAY and that's a MAy just have the final episode be them leading to the tournament and then not showing it.

That would be the worst thing that could possibly happen to Super. They talked about another tournament too much for them not to show it. That would be cruel to the fans. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised at all honestly.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Yeah it's like eizou hakusho teasing demon world tournament 2, but you don't see them do it ;(

Dragonball super has SO MUCH potential and it doesn't utilize it, just like gohan. But we still love it as much as we can even though we see it as a shell of it's former self....again like gohan :3

[omaro34]

Yeah it's like eizou hakusho teasing demon world tournament 2, but you don't see them do it ;(

Dragonball super has SO MUCH potential and it doesn't utilize it, just like gohan. But we still love it as much as we can even though we see it as a shell of it's former self....again like gohan :3

Yeah the whole concept of the 12 universes is something they can feast on for many years. They can take the story anyway they want to because they created such a large environment. For example, they hinted at visiting Planet Salad, the Saiyan's homeworld, I hope they haven't forgotten about it.

Also, when they visited Zamasu's planet it didn't really seem like another universe, it just seemed like they traveled to another planet.

Anyway this tournament will bring in so much hype, I just hope they can at least add variety to the fights and not see Vegeta take out 3 fighters on the other team and Goku lose then come back and fight the strongest guy on the other team while the rest of the Z fighters stand there like decoration and watch.

Lol and funny you mentioned Gohan, please don't get me started on him. Gotenks has become comic relief and Buu has been written out of the show. I hope this tournament redeems Super in terms of character usage, but I doubt it.

I hope killing is allowed in the tournament too. That would increase the tension, something that has been lacking in Super a bit.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Yeah it's like eizou hakusho teasing demon world tournament 2, but you don't see them do it ;(

Dragonball super has SO MUCH potential and it doesn't utilize it, just like gohan. But we still love it as much as we can even though we see it as a shell of it's former self....again like gohan :3

Yeah the whole concept of the 12 universes is something they can feast on for many years. They can take the story anyway they want to because they created such a large environment. For example, they hinted at visiting Planet Salad, the Saiyan's homeworld, I hope they haven't forgotten about it.

Also, when they visited Zamasu's planet it didn't really seem like another universe, it just seemed like they traveled to another planet.

Anyway this tournament will bring in so much hype, I just hope they can at least add variety to the fights and not see Vegeta take out 3 fighters on the other team and Goku lose then come back and fight the strongest guy on the other team while the rest of the Z fighters stand there like decoration and watch.

Lol and funny you mentioned Gohan, please don't get me started on him. Gotenks has become comic relief and Buu has been written out of the show. I hope this tournament redeems Super in terms of character usage, but I doubt it.

I hope killing is allowed in the tournament too. That would increase the tension, something that has been lacking in Super a bit.

I agree super has no tension lately, but for me it never had ANY. The tension the buu arc drummed up.....and now it's all bad jokes and rushed fights. I only seam to enjoy super for giving us new shit for the games. And the first opening and closing theme.

Like it seams like they want to nerf and limit everyone when Z was all about surpassing limits. "Kakarot we can't get much stronger in 3 years of training because our limits."

Goku-Didn't we like make those our bitches our whole life?

Vegeta-SHHH! If we keep beerus above everyone then the writing is lazy and easy for toei!

I feel we NEED someone to wreck zeno. What's the point of having a villain that has no chance of winning? It's like having Burter run around in the buu saga...like...yeah you're stronger then a lot of people....but we all know you're gonna lose.

I mean this god ki stuff can easily make piccolo or tien relevant again. Do something with tien's third eye or the fact piccolo has a god inside of him and namakians make a god with the namekian book of legends or whatever. DO SOMETHING! Because GT may have riding goku's dick in spades, but at least when he fought people it was intereting and if he failed it was the end, so tension. Here it's just....okay, let's see how he dies and does nothing at all. The most we can hope for while zeno/whis and beerus are king is someone dies for an hour. Oh boo who! That time gotten and trunks died in resurrection of F was SOOO impactful! I'm sure there wasn't a single dry napkin in the theatre -_-

Still as much as I criticize I still support super and don't want it to end, just improve. although to me the REAL dragonball story is ball/z/gt. To me this is some alternate universe.

[omaro34]

Another thread made me really excited at the prospect of a team tournament. It could go either way with twin universes teaming up (Goku and Hit) or single universe representatives (Goku and Vegeta, finally learning to work together and grow as rivals further). Toriyama has rarely explored the concept, but it's been interesting every single time he has done so. I'd like to see how creative he could get having fighters experiment and combine their expertise to create unique battle scenarios. Of course, it also has high potential for gag material before we get to the more serious matches!

We haven't seen Champa in a while in Super, he's the perfect candidate for gag material. This tournament will also bring in all of the other Gods of Destruction as well. I hope they are all different in their own special ways; of course having a backstory on each and every one would be a little much and that would probably be something Toei wouldn't have time for, but getting to know at least a few would be nice. I would laugh if they end up all being cats.

Perhaps we will finally see a blue haired Gogeta god form as well.

[fadeddreams5]

You know what I want most of all in this tournament? A ****ing intergalactic crowd. The previous tournament was so dead, and the environment was so bland and boring, which made it more dull to watch than it already was. If this is going to be a multiverse tournament, we better have a huge multiverse audience.

What I'd personally want are environmental changes in the matches, sort of like when Babidi transported everyone to other locations to give his henchman an advantage. Maybe the Omni King can transport the fighters to planets of his choice, and the crowd can view the fight via a giant monitor or orb screen (see: Whis' staff projections). No ring outs either. The fights are till someone is KO'd or gives up, but the fighter gets recovered at the end of his match. This way, Hit can also go all out.

[omaro34]

You know what I want most of all in this tournament? A ****ing intergalactic crowd. The previous tournament was so dead, and the environment was so bland and boring, which made it more dull to watch than it already was. If this is going to be a multiverse tournament, we better have a huge multiverse audience.

What I'd personally want are environmental changes in the matches, sort of like when Babidi transported everyone to other locations to give his henchman an advantage. Maybe the Omni King can transport the fighters to planets of his choice, and the crowd can view the fight via a giant monitor or orb screen (see: Whis' staff projections). No ring outs either. The fights are till someone is KO'd or gives up, but the fighter gets recovered at the end of his match. This way, Hit can also go all out.

I think the Omni-King will actually showcase his power one way or another at this tournament, and whether that's by transporting the fighters to other locations like Babidi did or destroying the universes that lose is anybody's guess. He's the big question mark in Super right now, there's so much mystery around him; I mean for a little thing with a high pitched voice he sure does carry a big title as the strongest being in Dragonball history.

[omaro34]

Yeah it's like eizou hakusho teasing demon world tournament 2, but you don't see them do it ;(

Dragonball super has SO MUCH potential and it doesn't utilize it, just like gohan. But we still love it as much as we can even though we see it as a shell of it's former self....again like gohan :3

Yeah the whole concept of the 12 universes is something they can feast on for many years. They can take the story anyway they want to because they created such a large environment. For example, they hinted at visiting Planet Salad, the Saiyan's homeworld, I hope they haven't forgotten about it.

Also, when they visited Zamasu's planet it didn't really seem like another universe, it just seemed like they traveled to another planet.

Anyway this tournament will bring in so much hype, I just hope they can at least add variety to the fights and not see Vegeta take out 3 fighters on the other team and Goku lose then come back and fight the strongest guy on the other team while the rest of the Z fighters stand there like decoration and watch.

Lol and funny you mentioned Gohan, please don't get me started on him. Gotenks has become comic relief and Buu has been written out of the show. I hope this tournament redeems Super in terms of character usage, but I doubt it.

I hope killing is allowed in the tournament too. That would increase the tension, something that has been lacking in Super a bit.

I agree super has no tension lately, but for me it never had ANY. The tension the buu arc drummed up.....and now it's all bad jokes and rushed fights. I only seam to enjoy super for giving us new shit for the games. And the first opening and closing theme.

Like it seams like they want to nerf and limit everyone when Z was all about surpassing limits. "Kakarot we can't get much stronger in 3 years of training because our limits."

Goku-Didn't we like make those our bitches our whole life?

Vegeta-SHHH! If we keep beerus above everyone then the writing is lazy and easy for toei!

I feel we NEED someone to wreck zeno. What's the point of having a villain that has no chance of winning? It's like having Burter run around in the buu saga...like...yeah you're stronger then a lot of people....but we all know you're gonna lose.

I mean this god ki stuff can easily make piccolo or tien relevant again. Do something with tien's third eye or the fact piccolo has a god inside of him and namakians make a god with the namekian book of legends or whatever. DO SOMETHING! Because GT may have riding goku's dick in spades, but at least when he fought people it was intereting and if he failed it was the end, so tension. Here it's just....okay, let's see how he dies and does nothing at all. The most we can hope for while zeno/whis and beerus are king is someone dies for an hour. Oh boo who! That time gotten and trunks died in resurrection of F was SOOO impactful! I'm sure there wasn't a single dry napkin in the theatre -_-

Still as much as I criticize I still support super and don't want it to end, just improve. although to me the REAL dragonball story is ball/z/gt. To me this is some alternate universe.

As much as I hate to say it my friend, the days of Tenshinhan even having a chance of being relevant is long over, which is sad. Tien was a great martial artist with a huge upside, I consider him a wasted character like so many others.

The last episode, Zeno wanted to meet with Goku, I sure hope they don't become friends because that would decrease the tension even more.

I find it hilarious you find Super to be some alternate universe because I think of it the same way mainly because I grew up with the Bruce Falcouner Funimation version, but I would like to know your reason behind that statement.

I personally feel this tournament should be the last Arc of Super, hence the Z fighters should return for a nostalgic exit and treat for the fans.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Yeah the whole concept of the 12 universes is something they can feast on for many years. They can take the story anyway they want to because they created such a large environment. For example, they hinted at visiting Planet Salad, the Saiyan's homeworld, I hope they haven't forgotten about it.

Also, when they visited Zamasu's planet it didn't really seem like another universe, it just seemed like they traveled to another planet.

Anyway this tournament will bring in so much hype, I just hope they can at least add variety to the fights and not see Vegeta take out 3 fighters on the other team and Goku lose then come back and fight the strongest guy on the other team while the rest of the Z fighters stand there like decoration and watch.

Lol and funny you mentioned Gohan, please don't get me started on him. Gotenks has become comic relief and Buu has been written out of the show. I hope this tournament redeems Super in terms of character usage, but I doubt it.

I hope killing is allowed in the tournament too. That would increase the tension, something that has been lacking in Super a bit.

I agree super has no tension lately, but for me it never had ANY. The tension the buu arc drummed up.....and now it's all bad jokes and rushed fights. I only seam to enjoy super for giving us new shit for the games. And the first opening and closing theme.

Like it seams like they want to nerf and limit everyone when Z was all about surpassing limits. "Kakarot we can't get much stronger in 3 years of training because our limits."

Goku-Didn't we like make those our bitches our whole life?

Vegeta-SHHH! If we keep beerus above everyone then the writing is lazy and easy for toei!

I feel we NEED someone to wreck zeno. What's the point of having a villain that has no chance of winning? It's like having Burter run around in the buu saga...like...yeah you're stronger then a lot of people....but we all know you're gonna lose.

I mean this god ki stuff can easily make piccolo or tien relevant again. Do something with tien's third eye or the fact piccolo has a god inside of him and namakians make a god with the namekian book of legends or whatever. DO SOMETHING! Because GT may have riding goku's dick in spades, but at least when he fought people it was intereting and if he failed it was the end, so tension. Here it's just....okay, let's see how he dies and does nothing at all. The most we can hope for while zeno/whis and beerus are king is someone dies for an hour. Oh boo who! That time gotten and trunks died in resurrection of F was SOOO impactful! I'm sure there wasn't a single dry napkin in the theatre -_-

Still as much as I criticize I still support super and don't want it to end, just improve. although to me the REAL dragonball story is ball/z/gt. To me this is some alternate universe.

As much as I hate to say it my friend, the days of Tenshinhan even having a chance of being relevant is long over, which is sad. Tien was a great martial artist with a huge upside, I consider him a wasted character like so many others.

The last episode, Zeno wanted to meet with Goku, I sure hope they don't become friends because that would decrease the tension even more.

I find it hilarious you find Super to be some alternate universe because I think of it the same way mainly because I grew up with the Bruce Falcouner Funimation version, but I would like to know your reason behind that statement.

I personally feel this tournament should be the last Arc of Super, hence the Z fighters should return for a nostalgic exit and treat for the fans.

I'm glad someone agrees with me on Tien being a wasted character. Dude had a very believable change to Goku's side. As so many have gone to goku's side, his felt the most organic and didn't feel forced at all. So did some others, but his was one of my favourites.

I agree on the lack of tension. I want them to be friends and get it over with as I see it as a good plot device and inevitable...but man, when goku is beating up golden frieza, an the other z fighters are there.....and beerus hates frieza, and whis is there....and has tie control...and there's 2 sets of known dragonballs in that canon...man theres no tension.


I love super but the reason I see it as a alternate universe, is well it doesn't match with GT!

I'm like you. I grew up with dragonball by bruce faulconer and toonami when it first aired.
To me and many others the story of dragonball is dragonball-dragonballz-dragonballgt
It isn't the manga. Yes it was first, but I always hate the thought process of older=better or even- "this is newer! this is better because its newer"
The manga is cool, but most people know of the franchise because of the anime and prefer the anime, so while the manga may be the ORIGINAL canon, it's not the MAIN one most people know of and prefer. So really the ball-Z-GT canon is the main one since its the most popular and liked one.

People think there canon only be one canon, but like star wars pre Disney purge, there's 3 or more canons, going by the definition which is basically-in continuity/universe according to the maker(s)

So there's the original canon-the manga and whatever toriyama himself calls canon to it (so either he thinks the films are or super itself.)

then there's the new anime canon which is kai(basically Z but closer to the manga) and...super? (Super seams to fit with kai more then the manga, what with some filler characters being in it that kai has approved and ignoring z exclusive filler.....)

and the main, most known and liked canon-the original anime canon of ball, z and GT.

It's really pick your poison, and nobody knows what's officially canon since I don't think the makers care that much. Debates on canon is free advertisement for them. But Saying gt isn't canon is as true as saying beerus is non canon, and saying jaco is non canon. All 3 statements are both right and wrong.

So yeah, ramble over. I see toonami's dragonball as the story of dragonball. toei's version of dragonball by the people ho made the anime. And some of the films fit in, not like fusion reborn but like the first cooler, the first bardock special, and dead zone and a few others that aren't that inconsistent. basically what toei meant to fit with the aniem instead of doing whatever like with tree of might.

Super...I like you, you're flawed, but I like you. But you're not dragonball. You're dragonball, but you're not "dragonball-dragonball"....I just wish more people would use the word canon right instead of saying only toriyama can decide what's canon.

[Black_Liger]

I would love if a planet was created for the tournament, and all teams were dropped on it to survive, find each other and finish off other teams.

[omaro34]

I would love if a planet was created for the tournament, and all teams were dropped on it to survive, find each other and finish off other teams.

This would be beyond awesome. Kind of like the Hunger Games but team oriented instead of everyone against each other. Like you said, everyone should be separated from each other and not all together when the tournament starts on this large planet, and they must not only find each other, but also kill off other fighters on other teams. Except Goku can use Instant Transmission, but he will have his hands tied because he will be around strong opposing fighters, hence he won't really be able to help out his friends if they are in need. Plus the energy of the Z fighters would be hard to sense because there are so many fighters on this planet and all of that energy would be masking the fighting powers of the Z warriors.

This would be incredible, but sadly I don't think the writers are that creative.

[Pluto]

I would love if a planet was created for the tournament, and all teams were dropped on it to survive, find each other and finish off other teams.

i had this on my mind a lot, what would the location physically be to handle such a caliber of power, during the first Beerus and Goku fight, we saw the consequences of not holding back, especially in direct contact.

I dont think they can fight on a "planet" anymore, make it more a star (look at Zeno's location in the extended preview), i wouldnt be surprised if the finals would be held on a black hole.

[omaro34]

I would love if a planet was created for the tournament, and all teams were dropped on it to survive, find each other and finish off other teams.

i had this on my mind a lot, what would the location physically be to handle such a caliber of power, during the first Beerus and Goku fight, we saw the consequences of not holding back, especially in direct contact.

I dont think they can fight on a "planet" anymore, make it more a star (look at Zeno's location in the extended preview), i wouldnt be surprised if the finals would be held on a black hole.

Whether its a planet or a star, the thought of all of the fighters being separated from other members of their team while trying to kill off other fighters from other Universes is pretty exciting and cool.

[batistabus]

Warning: a lot of content.

First, I will discuss the number of new characters that would be required for a tournament of this size:

Note: When I use the term "shinkan", I am referring to the attendant of the God of Destruction (Whis, Vados). I am using this term since the daishinkan revealed in episode 55 of Super seems to be the same species as Whis/Vados and is the attendant to Zeno.

Something we really need to keep in perspective here is how many new characters need to be created for this arc. If the 5 fighter format were to be maintained, these are the numbers we'd be looking at per universe:
[spoiler]0-1 God of Destruction
0-1 Attendant to the God of Destruction
0-5 Kaioshin (including Daikaioshin) OR God(s) of Creation
0-1 Attendant to the Gods of Creation
5 Fighters
? Spectators[/spoiler]

At max, not counting spectators, we have 156 characters total. Subtract 19 (for the Universe 6 & 7 fighters and gods), and you have a maximum of 137 new characters. If you go with the conservative format of Universe 6 for every team (5 fighters, 1 hakaishin, 1 shinkan, 2 shinjin), minus the 18 existing (not counting the Elder Kaioshin), that's still 90 new characters Akira Toriyama would be expected to come up with designs, names, personalities, and attacks for. Even if he didn't have to come up with them all himself, that's still too many unique characters to expect animators or Toyotaro to draw.

Using the Universe 6 format, here are the numbers for x number of new fighters (12(x+4)-18).
[spoiler]4 = 78
3 = 66
2 = 54
1 = 42[/spoiler]

At a minimum of 1 fighter, 1 hakaishin, 1 shinkan, 1 kaioshin, and 1 kaioshin attendant, that is still 42 new characters. I still think that is way more than anyone should reasonably expect. To deal with this number, these are what I can think of as likely possibilities:
[spoiler]-There is no tournament; something happens that prevents it, Zeno loses interest, or Super ends before this ever happens and it is left as a "Goku and his friends will keep training so one day they can compete in the Omniverse Tournament!!"

-Some universes will have neither hakaishin nor kaioshin. If Zamasu does indeed kill Gowasu, this would seemingly result in the death of Universe 10's hakaishin as well (we haven't seen any other kaioshin, but they could potentially exist). In this case, I expect that the deceased god of destruction's shinkan or the daishinkan will select who will compete.

-Zeno will destroy some universes before the tournament and there will be fewer competitors as a result.

-The tournament is presented like the Tenkaichi Budokai, where most competitors are not shown and most preliminary battles occur off-screen. When a large group of people are "on screen", they appear as a blurred mass of humans. This presentation format would allow for the maximum number of entrants into the tournament, but the vast majority of them would not be seen.[/spoiler]

These are what I see as extremely unlikely possibilities:
[spoiler]-Zeno is killed.

-Universe 7 is disqualified, destroyed, or both.

-80+ new characters are actually created for the tournament and shown.[/spoiler]

.....


For anyone with an interest in this sort of thing, I will now discuss potential brackets for the tournament.

This gets a bit more complicated than you might expect. For a 12 team tournament, assuming no other "teams" are competing aside from 1 for each universe, there are 3 formats I think would work best. Before I get to that, let me explain the formats that I think won't work, or at the very least won't be fair. And before I get to that, let me explain how Dragon Ball typically does tournament brackets.

For the Tenkaichi Budokai (before the Boo arc), fighters compete in pools to determine the top 8 fighters. The bracket works out nicely with 8 fighters, and the winner of the tournament only has to defeat 3 more opponents from this point.
[spoiler](from MyFavoriteGames.com)[/spoiler]

The 25th Tenkaichi Budokai is a mess and randomly places fighters 16 fighters into two uneven brackets. This tournament is never concluded, so I won't worry about it too much.

The 28th Tenkaichi Budokai has a top 12 format (like the Omniverse Tournament would), but randomly allows a portion of the bracket to skip right to semi finals after the second match. This is very unfair and I cannot see such bratty gods being okay with this in an Omniverse Tournament. FInally, the winner of the semi finals fights Mr. Satan for first place. This is okay because Mr. Satan is considered the strongest person on earth and would likely have won all of his matches anyway.
[spoiler] (from MyFavoriteGames.com)[/spoiler]

In other words, 12 teams makes for a complicated bracket. You cannot simply pair off competitors pyramid-style because certain competitors complete less than others. For 12 teams, one side of bracket would be able to skip round 3 and advance right to the finals.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
This "skip" is what is referred to as a "bye", and a bye that late in bracket is generally considered unfair and screws over teams that would normally have placed better than others in a different format. You can read a more detailed description about why this format is typically avoided here: http://feedback.challonge.com/knowledge ... to-round-2

Therefore, the most fair way to have such a tournament format is to have the 4 most highly "seeded" teams receive "byes" and automatically advance into the second round. "Seeding" indicates how good a team is; in the example of the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai, Mr. Satan is given the highest seed (typically assigned as "1") while Pan gets a seedless-bye in the 3rd round. For a fair Omniverse Tournament, someone (The Daishinkan?) would have to select the 4 strongest universes to receive highers seeds and skip a round, which would presumably include Universe 7 as they have proven themselves against Universe 6 (but not necessarily). This way, teams that lose are eliminated earlier in bracket and are paired against universes that are expected to do well anyway. This is what that sort of format would look like with seeding assigned based on universe number:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

As an example, I've seeded 12 characters (I don't expect this to be very controversial) and put them into a bracket.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
The 4 most highly-seeded characters are expected to (or have better chances to) defeat anyone anyway, so their seeding is designed to yield the most accurate result for the semifinal rounds (so that Whis doesn't eliminate Beerus early in tournament, resulting in him placing more poorly than someone like Piccolo).

Additionally, to give the fighters more chances to prove themselves (which tends to yield more accurate results), brackets can follow the double-elimination format. I'm not going to take the time to explain that in-depth, but you can see an example of that here. This is typically preferred by spectators and players for gaming tournaments because it allows for a potential "loser's run" where someone loses early in bracket and faces the threat of elimination as they claw their way up to the finals.
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Finally, there is the Round Robin format where every team plays every team. The team with the best overall score (individual match victories) wins. Ties are broken by rematch or judge decision. Example: http://challonge.com/Omniverse3
Pros: Most accurate result in determining which universe has the strongest fighters
Cons: 64 total face-offs (with more if more than 1 person competes per team)

There is also the Swiss Format, but this is based on points (making it the most complicated) and I can't see Toriyama choosing it.


So just to throw numbers around one more time:
[spoiler]If ONLY Goku competes in this tournament with the single-elimination "4 byes" format, Goku would have to win 3 or 4 matches (depending on seeding) to win the tournament. If Universe 7 gets good seeding (requiring 3 victories) and ONLY universes that he competes against are shown, we could expect to encounter (5 new characters per universe times 3 universes =) 15 or fewer characters.

I see this as the bare minimum for the amount of new characters that would need to be created and I expect that, if the tournament happens at all, there would be more.

If two fighters represent each universe (24 total), you end up with a similar bracketing issue. If three fighters represent each universe (36 total), this bracket works out cleanly. However, that still leaves you with 30 (new fighters) + 40 (or fewer new gods) = up to 70 new characters

If somehow 4 Universes are eliminated initially and 8 are left...you can do the math at this point. But this is a possibility as well.[/spoiler]

Anyway, understanding and setting up any one of these might be too complicated for Toriyama and we'd more likely see something similar to what was set up for the 28th Budokai regardless of fairness. Also likely is that 4 Universes are quickly eliminated, and the 8 remaining have a clean bracket. Aside from Toriyama not wanting to bother, sophisticated bracket formats would also be a bit complicated for children, which is something Dragon Ball seeks to avoid. Even if the gods aren't happy with it, if Zeno makes a decision, who's going to say anything about it?


So...what was I saying again? Oh yeah, who knows what the format will be, but you should probably curb your expectations.

[jplaya2023]

How about a large tournament (think multiverse) of all 1on 1 fights.

each universe sends 7 people to fight in matches on a entire newly created planet that cannot be destroyed. Everything is allowed killing, weapons etc... you can even have senzu beans and other items. The winner is the one who kills their opponent. Everyone killed will be restored after the tournament.

U7 team =
goku
vegeta
future trunks
piccolo
gohan
fat buu
gotenks

[emperior]

How about a large tournament (think multiverse) of all 1on 1 fights.

each universe sends 7 people to fight in matches on a entire newly created planet that cannot be destroyed. Everything is allowed killing, weapons etc... you can even have senzu beans and other items. The winner is the one who kills their opponent. Everyone killed will be restored after the tournament.

U7 team =
goku
vegeta
future trunks
piccolo
gohan
fat buu
gotenks

that would be cool but as the guy above you mentioned, that would be way too much for Toriyama, he would have to provide dozens of new character designs