The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:44 am

Krillin1994 wrote:Gohan and Krillin (Ginyu Force fight) vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
If it's gohan during the first half of the fight before they had to vs ginyu, Vegeta Stomps. Afterwards Gohan could solo. He was so strong by he time he got to ginyu that when raging he could hold back 2nd form frieza. Sure it took all his energy but still a big feat. Gohan and vegeta got much stronger thanks to the ginyu force :)

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- King Chappa vs. Chaozu (22nd Budokai).
- Bojack vs. SSJ Son Gohan (Boo arc) and Kaioshin.
- Bojack's crew (Zangya, Bujin, Gokua, Bido) vs. Kaioshin.
- Grey Boo vs. LSSJ Broli (Second Coming).
- Grey Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Gurd vs. Son Goku, Piccolo (Saiyan arc) and Nappa.
- Super Boo vs. SSJ3 Gotenks (Cell-Games Future Trunks/28th Budokai Son Goten).
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Gohan and Kaioshin win with low difficulty. It's a stomp really without his henchmen helping.
Bojack's crew gang up, and cheaply win
Broly shitstomps
Pikkon shitstomps
goku and company win. guldo's time powers can be beaten with piccolo's smarts and goku's battle sense as well. (Good choice btw I'd like to see this happen)
ssj3gotenks wins. Again very creative choice. never heard that one before. :)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:58 pm

Krillin1994 wrote:Gohan and Krillin (Ginyu Force fight) vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
Gohan and Kuririn are weaker individually, but I wager that they could beat Vegeta if they got together.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:08 pm

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Krillin1994 wrote:Gohan and Krillin (Ginyu Force fight) vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
Gohan and Kuririn are weaker individually, but I wager that they could beat Vegeta if they got together.
Wasn't gohan after visiting Guru the same level as vegeta on earth? Or do I just watch too much TFS?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:00 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote:
Krillin1994 wrote:Gohan and Krillin (Ginyu Force fight) vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
Gohan and Kuririn are weaker individually, but I wager that they could beat Vegeta if they got together.
Wasn't gohan after visiting Guru the same level as vegeta on earth? Or do I just watch too much TFS?
That line wasn't in the Japanese version. It might've been in the dub and it was definitely in TFS. When Kuririn and Gohan powered up to fight Gurd, the other Ginyus stated that they were around 10,000, which is quite a bit lower than Vegeta's 18,000.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:29 pm

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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote: Gohan and Kuririn are weaker individually, but I wager that they could beat Vegeta if they got together.
Wasn't gohan after visiting Guru the same level as vegeta on earth? Or do I just watch too much TFS?
That line wasn't in the Japanese version. It might've been in the dub and it was definitely in TFS. When Kuririn and Gohan powered up to fight Gurd, the other Ginyus stated that they were around 10,000, which is quite a bit lower than Vegeta's 18,000.

True, but scouters can't see when people mask their power levels. Vegeta did confuse him for Goku, although you can say he might have just thought "Kakarot got a zenkai of 2k......good for him. Mine better! >:D...Wait, that's Gohan? >:(...."
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:46 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote: True, but scouters can't see when people mask their power levels. Vegeta did confuse him for Goku, although you can say he might have just thought "Kakarot got a zenkai of 2k......good for him. Mine better! >:D...Wait, that's Gohan? >:(...."
They weren't masking their power. They were revving up to their max to fight Gurd. Besides, if they were a lot stronger than the 10,000 figure that was supplied, it would've been brought up, like "So they can suppress their battle power..." or "Now they're at 20,000! What is going on?!" Such a scene never takes place.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:51 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote: True, but scouters can't see when people mask their power levels. Vegeta did confuse him for Goku, although you can say he might have just thought "Kakarot got a zenkai of 2k......good for him. Mine better! >:D...Wait, that's Gohan? >:(...."
They weren't masking their power. They were revving up to their max to fight Gurd. Besides, if they were a lot stronger than the 10,000 figure that was supplied, it would've been brought up, like "So they can suppress their battle power..." or "Now they're at 20,000! What is going on?!" Such a scene never takes place.

Good points. Can't really argue that.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZ Macky » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:55 am

Piccolo (Just before fusing with nail) VS. All of these (Healed after every fight):

-Nappa
-Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
-Vegeta (Vs. Cui)
-Vegeta (Vs. Monster Zarbon)
-Vegeta (Vs. Recoome)
-Recoome
-Nail
-Burter & Jeice (1 Vs 2)
-Kuririn (Vs. Freeza)
-Ginyu
-Vegeta (Vs. First Form Freeza)

Also, How would Piccolo get strong enough to face any of these?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:34 am

DBZ Macky wrote:Piccolo (Just before fusing with nail) VS. All of these (Healed after every fight):

-Nappa
-Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
-Vegeta (Vs. Cui)
-Vegeta (Vs. Monster Zarbon)
-Vegeta (Vs. Recoome)
-Recoome
-Nail
-Burter & Jeice (1 Vs 2)
-Kuririn (Vs. Freeza)
-Ginyu
-Vegeta (Vs. First Form Freeza)

Also, How would Piccolo get strong enough to face any of these?
Makes it up to Butta and Jheese, but loses to Kuririn by the slimmest of margins. Also there's no difference between Vegeta when he beat Zarbon and when he fought Recoome.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:01 am

Noah wrote:Thanks for the answer, DanielSSJ and great analysis Pantalones :thumbup:

New matches: (equal power, unlimited stamina)

- Beerus vs Super Boo-han

- Cabba vs Gohan

- Freeza vs Piccolo Daimao

- Hit vs Paikuhan

- Mutenroshi vs Cell

- Raditz vs Nappa
Beerus. He can nullify all attacks of buuhan, create clones, etc and is far skilled IMO.

Gohan, I feel cabba isn't up to the mark.

Freeza has him outclassed in every way imaginable. H2H skills, tail, Energy manipulation, Telekinesis, paralyzing ball etc.

Hit, who is actually a skilled fighter. He also has time stop.

Cell is a better fighter and has TK and regen. He death beams him.
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- King Chappa vs. Chaozu (22nd Budokai).
- Bojack vs. SSJ Son Gohan (Boo arc) and Kaioshin.
- Bojack's crew (Zangya, Bujin, Gokua, Bido) vs. Kaioshin.
- Grey Boo vs. LSSJ Broli (Second Coming).
- Grey Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Gurd vs. Son Goku, Piccolo (Saiyan arc) and Nappa.
- Super Boo vs. SSJ3 Gotenks (Cell-Games Future Trunks/28th Budokai Son Goten).
- Chiaotzu easily. He is far more powerful, has TK and flight.

- Bojack isn't strong enough to put them both down. Kaioshin holds him in place while gohan demolishes him.

Kaioshin gets overwhelmed by the energy strings

Buu stomps these chumps at the same time while holding back.

I just think that KKx3 goku will be able to overpower gurd's hax and then one-shot him.

Any version of SS3 gotenks curbstomps super buu, and this version should be "not playing around" type so he wins.
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Krillin1994 wrote:Gohan and Krillin (Ginyu Force fight) vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
Gohan and Kuririn are weaker individually, but I wager that they could beat Vegeta if they got together.
I agree with this.
DBZ Macky wrote:Piccolo (Just before fusing with nail) VS. All of these (Healed after every fight):

-Nappa
-Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
-Vegeta (Vs. Cui)
-Vegeta (Vs. Monster Zarbon)
-Vegeta (Vs. Recoome)
-Recoome
-Nail
-Burter & Jeice (1 Vs 2)
-Kuririn (Vs. Freeza)
-Ginyu
-Vegeta (Vs. First Form Freeza)

Also, How would Piccolo get strong enough to face any of these?
He beats everyone before Ginyu at the same time while holding back to not kill them. Beats ginyu quickly before he has a chnce to change.
Vegeta would one-shot him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:07 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:Piccolo (Just before fusing with nail) VS. All of these (Healed after every fight):

-Nappa
-Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
-Vegeta (Vs. Cui)
-Vegeta (Vs. Monster Zarbon)
-Vegeta (Vs. Recoome)
-Recoome
-Nail
-Burter & Jeice (1 Vs 2)
-Kuririn (Vs. Freeza)
-Ginyu
-Vegeta (Vs. First Form Freeza)

Also, How would Piccolo get strong enough to face any of these?

Wins
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loses (vegeta was about the power level of first form frieza and he's a better fighter. also he sells more toys so by the laws of anime he has to win)



Broly Vs bojack+crew

Vados vs Zangya (beauty contest :P)
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:22 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Broly Vs bojack+crew

Vados vs Zangya (beauty contest :P)
Broly smashes them all but Bojack. Broly never fought SSJ2 Gohan (in his first movie), so I'd say Bojack beats him after a long fight.

Real fight, Vados by far. Beauty... Zangya I'd say. :P
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Post by apex_pretador » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:26 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Broly Vs bojack+crew

Vados vs Zangya (beauty contest :P)
Broly and Bojack are same strength, but Bojack's crew makes the huge difference.

If we are talking about 2nd coming, Broly literally eats them in the lunch, dinner and spends the night ****ing Zangya before eating her too in breakfast.


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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:23 pm

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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Broly Vs bojack+crew

Vados vs Zangya (beauty contest :P)
Broly and Bojack are same strength, but Bojack's crew makes the huge difference.

If we are talking about 2nd coming, Broly literally eats them in the lunch, dinner and spends the night ****ing Zangya before eating her too in breakfast.


Vados.

Broly on the same level as Blowjob? I'm sorry, but no.

Broly-Takes on the whole crew of goku, gohan and friends

bojack-loses to ssj1 gohan alone.

bjoack+crew- fended off by gohan easily 5 v 1. they only eventually got him after he already blocked and evaded countless hits.

Broly takes the win easily. Like gohan the paralyzer wouldn't work on him, and he has that barrier. He'd take them out 1 after another until he makes bojack's nuts a trampoline like he did to goku.

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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Broly Vs bojack+crew

Vados vs Zangya (beauty contest :P)
Broly smashes them all but Bojack. Broly never fought SSJ2 Gohan (in his first movie), so I'd say Bojack beats him after a long fight.

Real fight, Vados by far. Beauty... Zangya I'd say. :P
Look at what I said above to why bojack is nothing to even movie 8 broly, let alone movie 10.

As for saying zangya's prettier. Yeah I agree. I know it's subjective but man is she WAY hotter IMO. makes me thin kbojack's earings are rather fitting when he killed her TBH :P
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:59 pm

- Who is the strongest character that Oob (beginning of DBGT) could beat in the original Manga?
- Who is the Strongest character that Super Oob (Baby arc) could beat in the original Manga?

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:04 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:- Who is the strongest character that Oob (beginning of DBGT) could beat in the original Manga?
- Who is the Strongest character that Super Oob (Baby arc) could beat in the original Manga?
We don't know uub's power. he could be equal to kid buu, below or maybe he started with kid buu's power and naturally grew in power as he aged. It all depends if he needed training or if he doesn't, because people get stronger as they grow so maybe his power naturally grew, or shrunk, or stayed the same and was just hard to tap into? It's unknown.

Literally everyone from the original manga would be one shoted. even beginning of GT uub would 1 shot everyone.
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Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:53 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:- Who is the strongest character that Oob (beginning of DBGT) could beat in the original Manga?
- Who is the Strongest character that Super Oob (Baby arc) could beat in the original Manga?
Normal logic: Oob is a few notches above Pure Boo at the start and merging with Mr. Boo boosts him to the level of Evil Boo.
GT logic: As someone who can tango with the terrifying power of Base Goku, he easily trumps everyone from the manga at the same time with his pinky finger.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:03 pm

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Post by Analytic » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:24 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:- Who is the strongest character that Oob (beginning of DBGT) could beat in the original Manga?
- Who is the Strongest character that Super Oob (Baby arc) could beat in the original Manga?
- In my opinion, Oob is considerably stronger than SS3 Goku and Pure Boo, but still falls short of SS Gotenks (post-RoSaT).
- Super Vegetto.

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Post by Khin » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:53 am

DBZ Macky wrote:Piccolo (Just before fusing with nail) VS. All of these (Healed after every fight):

-Nappa
-Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
-Vegeta (Vs. Cui)
-Vegeta (Vs. Monster Zarbon)
-Vegeta (Vs. Recoome)
-Recoome
-Nail
-Burter & Jeice (1 Vs 2)
-Kuririn (Vs. Freeza)
-Ginyu
-Vegeta (Vs. First Form Freeza)
Piccolo effortlessly dispatches everyone on his list with a single blow, barring Vegeta where he loses horribly. I have Piccolo a total powerhouse even before fusing with Nail.

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