"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[VegettoEX]

The Hong Kong Chinese edition of Db super volume 1 is out and I'm deciding if i should buy it (i read chinese so language barrier is no issue). Does the tankoubon versiom offer anything exclusive?

Cute extra drawings between chapters and the special interview at the end (I don't know if that's in the Chinese release, though).

[ssj_duelist]

V-jump has been leaked, should get scans any time now.

[Noah]

Nice, could we expect the manga to be ahead of the anime this time?

[Abel Taylor]

Nice, could we expect the manga to be ahead of the anime this time?

Maybe it could get a little ahead of the manga, but it'd have to be moving pretty fast. They have to show Trunks' escape, Black coming to the present, Zamasu, and Bulma building the time machine, to catach up. If Super continues this bi-weekly run it's been having, though, the manga could surpass it.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Nice, could we expect the manga to be ahead of the anime this time?

How? The 1st chapter of F. Trunks arc only covered the 1st episode of the arc, and there are 8 episodes so far.

[Neon Z]

Nice, could we expect the manga to be ahead of the anime this time?

How? The 1st chapter of F. Trunks arc only covered the 1st episode of the arc, and there are 8 episodes so far.

It also covered or eliminated what should be some scenes from the 2nd one. For example, with Goku already next to Bulma's house it cuts down on him needing to get there from Whis' planet. But, yeah, there's no way in a single chapter it'll get to where the anime is currently, even if most of the slice of life stuff isn't there.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Blowing through everything up to this point and having next chapter start off about Zeno would destroy the pacing. Not that the pacing is great to begin with, but that would just be really bad, even for a "promotional manga".

Depending on how Toyotaro adapts everything and what was in Toriyama's outline to begin with, making it to the end of Goku vs. Black seems like a moderately safe bet. As already mentioned, Beerus and them are already on Earth. If Trunks travels back without getting injured and passing out, Toyotaro could have Black follow almost immediately and leave just enough time for an explanation about him before he shows up in the present.

If we're lucky and some of the lesser things are condensed or excluded, again depending on what was in Toriyama's outline and what of the slice of life stuff is Toei' doing, we could maybe make it to Goku Beerus & Whis leaving for Universe 10. Maybe...

[Pannaliciour]

I guess:

Trunks vs black
Trunks escapes
Black wants to know what happend
On earth Trunks wakes up
Dabura buu explanation
Black = goku
Bulma dead
Trunks vs Goku
Black arrives on earth
(End of chapter)

[samuo2]

Does anybody heard about a rumor about the next chapter content leaked on 2chan ?

It's a really unsafe information, but the member said he just have his V-Jump, and is back with new information:
[spoiler]In the new chapter we would learn that an Hakaishin et Kaio Shins are linked. If Kaïo Shins dies, Hakaishin too.[/spoiler]

Pretty weird information that doesn't correspond at all with the anime version of the events proceedings, and the V-Jump should be out the 20th-21th isn't it ?
Don't want to trashtalk or repand misinformation so if anybody who skill Japanese is able to find the post, translate, and judge it as safe or unsafe, it would be neat !

Oh, I forgot, another information was post seveal hours later:
[spoiler]

ここは現状スレじゃなかったのか
未来で界王神はダーブラに殺されたので破壊神もいないことになってる
だから未来ではゴクウブラックが最強

A french member translated it like this:
I don't see this information on this thread so:
In the future, as Kaïo Shin was killed by Dabra, the Hakaishin disapeared too
That's why Gokû Black is the most powerfull in the future[/spoiler]

[TheDevilsCorpse]

If the schedule holds, and it has been pretty much clockwork accurate these last few months, the Korean scanlation of the chapter should leak a little later today. If/when it does, me and my fiance will be going over it for any worthwhile info, as usual.

[TheMikado]

If the schedule holds, and it has been pretty much clockwork accurate these last few months, the Korean scanlation of the chapter should leak a little later today. If/when it does, me and my fiance will be going over it for any worthwhile info, as usual.

Bless you, TheDevilsCorpse for doing God's work

[Chiki]

Does anybody heard about a rumor about the next chapter content leaked on 2chan ?

It's a really unsafe information, but the member said he just have his V-Jump, and is back with new information:
[spoiler]In the new chapter we would learn that an Hakaishin et Kaio Shins are linked. If Kaïo Shins dies, Hakaishin too.[/spoiler]

Pretty weird information that doesn't correspond at all with the anime version of the events proceedings, and the V-Jump should be out the 20th-21th isn't it ?
Don't want to trashtalk or repand misinformation so if anybody who skill Japanese is able to find the post, translate, and judge it as safe or unsafe, it would be neat !

Oh, I forgot, another information was post seveal hours later:
[spoiler]

ここは現状スレじゃなかったのか
未来で界王神はダーブラに殺されたので破壊神もいないことになってる
だから未来ではゴクウブラックが最強

A french member translated it like this:
I don't see this information on this thread so:
In the future, as Kaïo Shin was killed by Dabra, the Hakaishin disapeared too
That's why Gokû Black is the most powerfull in the future[/spoiler]

This sounds horrific. Hopefully it isn't true.

[Swifticuffs]

Does anybody heard about a rumor about the next chapter content leaked on 2chan ?

It's a really unsafe information, but the member said he just have his V-Jump, and is back with new information:
[spoiler]In the new chapter we would learn that an Hakaishin et Kaio Shins are linked. If Kaïo Shins dies, Hakaishin too.[/spoiler]

Pretty weird information that doesn't correspond at all with the anime version of the events proceedings, and the V-Jump should be out the 20th-21th isn't it ?
Don't want to trashtalk or repand misinformation so if anybody who skill Japanese is able to find the post, translate, and judge it as safe or unsafe, it would be neat !

Oh, I forgot, another information was post seveal hours later:
[spoiler]

ここは現状スレじゃなかったのか
未来で界王神はダーブラに殺されたので破壊神もいないことになってる
だから未来ではゴクウブラックが最強

A french member translated it like this:
I don't see this information on this thread so:
In the future, as Kaïo Shin was killed by Dabra, the Hakaishin disapeared too
That's why Gokû Black is the most powerfull in the future[/spoiler]

This sounds horrific. Hopefully it isn't true.

Here is where I am insanely confused.

[spoiler]Say this is true. When the Kaioshin from Buu's original time was absorbed to become Fat Buu, East Kaioshin (or is the English translation really bad and they were Kaios?) took over to become the true Kaioshin, right? How did this instance not see the Hakaishin die? I get that him being absorbed isn't technically death, but then by that logic (with Buu sealed on Earth in the future) how .... how would this make sense?[/spoiler]

MY HEAD HURTS!

[samuo2]

Hm.. It' seems logic for me:

[spoiler]There is almost East Kaïo Shin remaining in our Timeline, all Kaïo Shins died excepted him. So Beerus won't die.
But in Trunk's Timeline, If East Kaïo Shin dies, there is any Kaïo Shin left, so Beerus dies.
I don't see where is the matter here

East Kaïo Shin keeps his function of East Kaïo Shin excepted that he is the only one to have an overall see of the Universe.[/spoiler]

[Swifticuffs]

Hm.. It' seems logic for me:

[spoiler]There is almost East Kaïo Shin remaining in our Timeline, all Kaïo Shins died excepted him. So Beerus won't die.
But in Trunk's Timeline, If East Kaïo Shin dies, there is any Kaïo Shin left, so Beerus dies.
I don't see where is the matter here

East Kaïo Shin keeps his function of East Kaïo Shin excepted that he is the only one to have an overall see of the Universe.[/spoiler]

That makes sense... I always thought there was only one Kaioshin. So that flashback showing the 4 Kaioshins and their leader, "Dai Kaioshin" is canon, right? They are not Kaios, they are Kaioshins? For universe 7?

[Grimlock]

But we should first solve the old problem/answer that question... Why haven't the other Kaioshins been reborn yet?

[samuo2]

In the manga, we saw onlu South Kaïo Shin (who was absorbed by Pure Majin Buu/Kid Buu to become the same-one with big muscles), The Dai Kaïo Shin who was absorbed by Buu to become Innocent Buu/Fat Buu, and East Kaïo Shin.

The events we saw in the anime are correct, but aren't shows in the manga, only mentionned.

So yes, for Universe 7 (and probably all others) there is one Kaïo Shin for each cardinal Points (East, West, North, South) plus a Dai Kaïo Shin.
And during Buu's attack, he killed/absorbed all of them except the East Kaïo Shin who was the only remaining Kaïo Shin (as Kibito is an assistant) till the apparition of the Rou Dai Kaïoshin from the break Z-Sword.

[Swifticuffs]

In the manga, we saw onlu South Kaïo Shin (who was absorbed by Pure Majin Buu/Kid Buu to become the same-one with big muscles), The Dai Kaïo Shin who was absorbed by Buu to become Innocent Buu/Fat Buu, and East Kaïo Shin.

The events we saw in the anime are correct, but aren't shows in the manga, only mentionned.

So yes, for Universe 7 (and probably all others) there is one Kaïo Shin for each cardinal Points (East, West, North, South) plus a Dai Kaïo Shin.
And during Buu's attack, he killed/absorbed all of them except the East Kaïo Shin who was the only remaining Kaïo Shin (as Kibito is an assistant) till the apparition of the Rou Dai Kaïoshin from the break Z-Sword.

OK this definitely helps and makes sense, thank you. I can't wait to view the leak and read the translation. That you, Devil.

[Alruneia]

I'm gonna wait for confirmation before putting too much thought into this, but...
I don't see how this checks out. First off, which Supreme Kai is Beerus connected to? It should be the Grand Supreme Kai, connecting the God of Destruction with the (highest) God of Creation, but he's dead (well, he's in Buu)... Is Beerus connected to every Supreme Kai at once, then, so that as long as there's one alive he's alive? That's... too ridiculous for me.
inb4 it's true

[Swifticuffs]

I'm gonna wait for confirmation before putting too much thought into this, but...
I don't see how this checks out. First off, which Supreme Kai is Beerus connected to? It should be the Grand Supreme Kai, connecting the God of Destruction with the (highest) God of Creation, but he's dead (well, he's in Buu)... Is Beerus connected to every Supreme Kai at once, then, so that as long as there's one alive he's alive? That's... too ridiculous for me.
inb4 it's true

Perhaps Grand Supreme Kai (Shin, currently) took the title from the Dai Kaioshin when he was absorbed, presuming he was dead? Or he was appointed at some point. Just a theory, but I see why you would question this.