"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[sangofe]

Can someone reply this: should I avoid reading this thread? Or does this manga cover a part in the anime that's already been covered and just add parts?

Chapter 14 covers Episode 47. Chapter 15 covers Episodes 48 & 49, minus Black's arrival to the future. Any new information are manga-only, unless if they mention them in later parts of the story in the anime.

Thank you. Really makes me wonder how the manga and anime can be that different...

[Xeogran]

The manga is so much behind the anime, and yet it manages to impress us with each new chapter

[TheMikado]

Can someone reply this: should I avoid reading this thread? Or does this manga cover a part in the anime that's already been covered and just add parts?

Chapter 14 covers Episode 47. Chapter 15 covers Episodes 48 & 49, minus Black's arrival to the future. Any new information are manga-only, unless if they mention them in later parts of the story in the anime.

Thank you. Really makes me wonder how the manga and anime can be that different...

Right, I don't think this alleged outline is as thick as people claim. I think Toei said that otherwise they would have a repeat of GT...

[samuo2]

Thank you. Really makes me wonder how the manga and anime can be that different...

Both of them interprete Toriyama's plot with more or less liberty, influence and inspiration. Toyotarô as a fan has naturally a more "fan approach" when in the other hand Toei struggle between old school directing and new elements on the serie.

And I think that there is a lot of blanks to fill
Especially during fight when, when you're not into it, it's pretty busy to be inspired for the choreography. It explains the relative difference between the anime and manga version of the Hit vs Gokû fight.

[Lord Beerus]

Guess it's all true?

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Source: http://www.db-z.com/dragon-ball-super-c ... -spoilers/

Wow. This is... quite a shake off the lore of Dragon Ball. I mean, Beerus can essentially bite the dust without anybody touching him or even speaking to him. It really does make Beerus more of a vulnerable character, but it just seems like such a contrived reason for having Beerus being kept out the plot for the Goku Black arc. I mean, the idea all Kioashin and Hakaishin and linked in some way is pretty fucking stupid, but I can see the angle of what Toyataro was going for by have all the highest classed Gods of the Dragon Ball universe connected in some way.

[Pannaliciour]

Remember the scan Beerus fighting Champa? Champa: I have enough of this universe. Beerus:me to

So just destroying the universe without beeing concerned killing kaioshins and so himself?

Btw Trunks using masenko was a Toriyama thing; he did this also in the manga.

[nite_jay]

I wouldn't be suprised if Trunks got the Z Sword and broke Elder Kai's seal. It would make the most sense because 1) Trunks is a swordsmen. 2) It would be the only way to make a reasonable explaination of how all of the Kaioshins could die, unless Zamasu/Black somehow breaks the seal themselves.

[Lord Beerus]

Remember the scan Beerus fighting Champa? Champa: I have enough of this universe. Beerus:me to

So just destroying the universe without beeing concerned killing kaioshins and so himself?

Btw Trunks using masenko was a Toriyama thing; he did this also in the manga.

Maybe Beerus doesn't know that the Kaioshin and Hakaishin are linked?

[Cipher]

This feels like a pretty big detail to introduce so late, and we know Toyotarou has relative freedom to make changes. It makes some degree of sense, but I'll wait for it to show up in the anime or affect a future storyline before I hold it as true across every version of the story.

Right now it feels a bit like an overextension to explain what happened to Beerus and Kaioshin in Future Trunks' timeline, though there's really no need to explain either; Kaioshin could just have gone home, and Beerus has no reason to visit Earth if Goku's not around to prompt the Super Saiyan God vision.

EDIT -- Ah, right, it could explain why Beerus doesn't do anything about Black in that timeline, but ... would he care in the first place? Boo was wiping out mortals (and gods) left and right without interference. I find it hard to believe anything Black's done would get his attention. He'd have to get pretty far into destroying all life in the universe, and even then, it's not clear whether someone like Beerus would stop him.

[OLKv3]

This feels like a pretty big detail to introduce so late, and we know Toyotarou has relative freedom to make changes. It makes some degree of sense, but I'll wait for it to show up in the anime or affect a future storyline before I hold it as true across every version of the story.

Right now it feels a bit like an overextension to explain what happened to Beerus and Kaioshin in Future Trunks' timeline, though there's really no need to explain either; Kaioshin could just have gone home, and Beerus has no reason to visit Earth if Goku's not around to prompt the Super Saiyan God vision.

EDIT -- Ah, right, it could explain why Beerus doesn't do anything about Black in that timeline, but ... would he care in the first place? Boo was wiping out mortals (and gods) left and right without interference. I find it hard to believe anything Black's done would get his attention. He'd have to get pretty far into destroying all life in the universe, and even then, it's not clear whether someone like Beerus would stop him.

Beerus was sleep when Buu was wrecking things, and he wanted to take out Zamasu in this arc when Whis stopped him. Black is doing things he doesn't like

[buutenks]

Manga is way to short.

54 episodes and only 15 chapters.

[Noah]

And I thought Toyotaro could better portray the characters in the manga
[spoiler][/spoiler]

silly/happy face Vegeta was anime only (disgusting) thing before

I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand I think having the Kaioshin and the Hakaishin linked is a pretty stupid idea, but on the other hand the fact that Beerus might finally be in somekind of danger after all this time could lead to some tension building up.

Not really, Whis could still kill Black and end of story.

Btw Trunks using masenko was a Toriyama thing; he did this also in the manga.

I guess you meant a Toyotaro thing*

[OLKv3]

And I thought Toyotaro could better portray the characters in the manga
[spoiler][/spoiler]

silly/happy face Vegeta was anime only (disgusting) thing before

I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand I think having the Kaioshin and the Hakaishin linked is a pretty stupid idea, but on the other hand the fact that Beerus might finally be in somekind of danger after all this time could lead to some tension building up.

Not really, Whis could still kill Black and end of story.

Btw Trunks using masenko was a Toriyama thing; he did this also in the manga.

I guess you meant a Toyotaro thing*

Pretty sure he meant Toriyama. It happened in the anime and manga, so it's from Toriyama's outline

[sintzu]

Manga is way to short.

54 episodes and only 15 chapters.

The 1st arc didn't get a proper adaption and the 2nd arc didn't get one at all.

The Champa arc is 14 episodes or 13 if you don't count the recap one while the manga is 9 chapters so it's pretty close.

The Trunks arc has been dragging in the anime so I won't be surprised if the manga ends up being a lot shorter.

[buutenks]

Manga is way to short.

54 episodes and only 15 chapters.

The 1st arc didn't get a proper adaption and the 2nd arc didn't get one at all.

The Champa arc is 14 episodes or 13 if you don't count the recap one while the manga is 9 chapters so it's pretty close.

The Trunks arc has been dragging in the anime so I won't be surprised if the manga ends up being a lot shorter.

Hmm, could be.

[dbzfan7]

Remember the scan Beerus fighting Champa? Champa: I have enough of this universe. Beerus:me to

So just destroying the universe without beeing concerned killing kaioshins and so himself?

Btw Trunks using masenko was a Toriyama thing; he did this also in the manga.

Maybe Beerus doesn't know that the Kaioshin and Hakaishin are linked?

Pretty sure Kaio said Goku and Beerus would end up killing themselves along with the universe if they kept up their fight. So it's not the first time.

[Miracles]

It wouldn't be a surprise that additional information is in the manga.
Both the anime and manga compliment each other.

They complement each other, they contridict each other. Either way let's wait for the leak before getting too deep into this.

Additional info does not mean contradiction.
There is no contradiction ever.

[TheMikado]

It wouldn't be a surprise that additional information is in the manga.
Both the anime and manga compliment each other.

They complement each other, they contridict each other. Either way let's wait for the leak before getting too deep into this.

Additional info does not mean contradiction.
There is no contradiction ever.

The anime implies SSJ is now as powerful if not more than SSG while the manga states SSJ is less powerful than SSG. How is that not a contradiction?

[nite_jay]

They complement each other, they contridict each other. Either way let's wait for the leak before getting too deep into this.

Additional info does not mean contradiction.
There is no contradiction ever.

The anime implies SSJ is now as powerful if not more than SSG while the manga states SSJ is less powerful than SSG. How is that not a contradiction?

Can you tell me when they implied that specifically? I don't that many of the U6 fighters were near SSG level besides Hit or maybe Cabba, and Goku and Vegeta had to go SSJ to fight basically everyone but Botamo.

[Miracles]

They complement each other, they contridict each other. Either way let's wait for the leak before getting too deep into this.

Additional info does not mean contradiction.
There is no contradiction ever.

The anime implies SSJ is now as powerful if not more than SSG while the manga states SSJ is less powerful than SSG. How is that not a contradiction?

Where?