900 Minutes of Uncut Action, DBZ Season 1 Arrives

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:23 pm

Mystery Person X wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:They could, actually. It'd be a custom aspect ratio, but it could be done. Problem is, it'd have a little black on all sides and thus be "unl33t" and unmarketable.
It would also have curved corners.

The dboxes often have curved corners

Mystery Person X · Post by **Mystery Person X** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:10 pm

Pieter wrote:The dboxes often have curved corners

But not to the same extreme as this, right?

And this would be for every frame of the series.

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:15 pm

Mystery Person X wrote:
Pieter wrote:The dboxes often have curved corners
But not to the same extreme as this, right?

And this would be for every frame of the series.

Nope, although I've seen episodes (Db) where that bottom half is visible. There's also two Db episodes which are completely fucked and look worse than the image above. Most episodes are flawless though.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:59 pm

Pieter wrote:Nope, although I've seen episodes (Db) where that bottom half is visible. There's also two Db episodes which are completely fucked and look worse than the image above. Most episodes are flawless though.

Which episodes? I don't remember anything jumping out at me, though it may have been disguised by the minimal overscan my setup has. Point me in the right direction?

-Corey

Ninja_Star · Post by **Ninja_Star** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:21 pm

Woah, Watching Dbz with curved edges would be very disturbing!
I kinda think everything Funimation has been telling us is just bull just to give this release a better hit. They wanted it to seem better than the uncut special edition so that the people who bought them would buy this set.

BTW~ The avatar I got from a link on this site.

and

This is a full resolution of my cover *MADE FOR A FATPACK OR DVD CASE THAT HOLDS AROUND 5 -10 discs*
I didnt mention widescreen because I dont find widescreen important, it will probably remind me that this set is cropped and ill probably wont watch it.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p10/ ... ercopy.jpg

I'm working on the second cover for the namek/ginyu saga so those who want that should expect it the day the second set releases

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:51 pm

Good to know that we're trying to find ways around the big orange box with these customs.

Also (not to be naggy), but what's the status of MajinVegetaXV's video review?

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:02 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:Also (not to be naggy), but what's the status of MajinVegetaXV's video review?

I decided to do something to offset the delays, but it's taking some time to get back to me. Can't promise anything spectacular, but if it works I might have an interesting insight as to what exactly went into this remaster job in terms of time and money.

This week though, it's going up regardless. I'm pretty sure Mike and a host of other people are tired of waiting ;p

-Corey

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:15 pm

Ninja_Star wrote:This is a full resolution of my cover *MADE FOR A FATPACK OR DVD CASE THAT HOLDS AROUND 5 -10 discs*
I didnt mention widescreen because I dont find widescreen important, it will probably remind me that this set is cropped and ill probably wont watch it.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p10/ ... ercopy.jpg

Kick-ass DVD cover. While it's your personal cover to make however you want, I don't see why you're calling it simply "The Vegeta saga" when FUNi are advertising it as "Season 1". I mean, if you're gonna base your custom covers specifically off the saga names, then you may as well say "The Vegeta saga w/t first 4 episode of the Namek saga". These releases are intended by FUNi to be "Season set" releases, not saga sets. As far as I can see, there's not one mention of this being the first season on your cover, which is odd considering "Season 1" is all over the DVD menus.

Ninja_Star · Post by **Ninja_Star** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:28 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
DaemonCorps wrote:Also (not to be naggy), but what's the status of MajinVegetaXV's video review?
I decided to do something to offset the delays, but it's taking some time to get back to me. Can't promise anything spectacular, but if it works I might have an interesting insight as to what exactly went into this remaster job in terms of time and money.

This week though, it's going up regardless. I'm pretty sure Mike and a host of other people are tired of waiting ;p

-Corey

Actually I have been waiting for your review too

So I can't wait for it.

And in response to Conan ~ I named it the Vegeta Saga because I think Vegeta is awsome and deserves his name in the cover, I dont like to go by Seasons due to the fact it is more harder to remember what saga is in which season.

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:44 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Pieter wrote:Nope, although I've seen episodes (Db) where that bottom half is visible. There's also two Db episodes which are completely fucked and look worse than the image above. Most episodes are flawless though.
Which episodes? I don't remember anything jumping out at me, though it may have been disguised by the minimal overscan my setup has. Point me in the right direction?

-Corey

Db episodes 51 and 52 are the ones that have ridicolous wraparound mistakes. I've shown screenshots before. Apart from that many episodes (Db) sometimes reveal the right corner of the video masters. Just a black corner that's hardly noticeable.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:21 am

Pieter wrote:Db episodes 51 and 52 are the ones that have ridicolous wraparound mistakes. I've shown screenshots before. Apart from that many episodes (Db) sometimes reveal the right corner of the video masters. Just a black corner that's hardly noticeable.

Hm, interesting! I never noticed it before since I watched the DragonBoxes on my TV (which has 2.5% overscan), but watching those episodes on the computer I saw what you were talking about.

My only real reply is: "Weird"

Wonder what the explanation is?

-Corey

ETC123 · Post by **ETC123** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:29 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote: Wonder what the explanation is?

If all businesses were casual and such, I imagine the answer would be something like this-

"Sometimes, stuff from the 80's and before are just weird and have weird things on them. "

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:53 am

Still waiting for actual video comparisons, as opposed to still shots.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:08 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:Still waiting for actual video comparisons, as opposed to still shots.

In order for me to give you actual comparisons that don't suffer from re-compression, I'd have to upload MPEG-2 files. And those are huge.

What are you looking for exactly, the effect of the cropping? The actual extent of the damage on the FUNimation "remasters" as opposed to Toei's actual frame-by-frame restoration?

-Corey

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:37 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote:Still waiting for actual video comparisons, as opposed to still shots.
In order for me to give you actual comparisons that don't suffer from re-compression, I'd have to upload MPEG-2 files. And those are huge.

What are you looking for exactly, the effect of the cropping? The actual extent of the damage on the FUNimation "remasters" as opposed to Toei's actual frame-by-frame restoration?

-Corey

Basically to see how much the cropping, will effect my viewing enjoyment. Also to see the extent of the damage.

Kaze no Mune · Post by **Kaze no Mune** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:28 pm

As both a purist and a fan of all things widescreen (I find myself enjoying movies/shows/whatever more often in widescreen than in full, don't ask), I have mixed feelings. I honestly didn't notice the cropping, but I knew it was there so that kind of got to me. But overall, I really enjoyed the set. As a purist, I wish they would have released it as a 4:3 set, but the 16:9 and the cropping did not ruin the experience for me in the least.

Basically, there's one question you should ask yourself if you're skeptical of purchasing these sets:

Can you afford the alternatives?

Honestly, I can't afford the singles or used Dragon Boxes, so I settled for the sets. If FUNi decides to re-re-release DBZ again in a future format (HD-DVD or Blu-Ray) with a 4:3 ratio, I'll probably buy those as well. I know this isn't the end-all DBZ set, but the video quality is good (enough, despite the glue and what-not) and there are three audio tracks, as well as Daimao's subtitles.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:35 pm

I'm interested in seeing these screencaps of the frames in DB...
Can one of you post a quick pic?

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:18 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:I'm interested in seeing these screencaps of the frames in DB...
Can one of you post a quick pic?

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1686/krillindo6.png
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4041 ... lmauf8.png

old bootleg shots

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:51 pm

Pieter wrote:
SonGokuGT wrote:I'm interested in seeing these screencaps of the frames in DB...
Can one of you post a quick pic?
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1686/krillindo6.png
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4041 ... lmauf8.png

old bootleg shots

Thank you! Those are interesting... I wonder what happened with those... Bad alignment? Cels were not painted correctly? Hmmm...

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:57 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:
Pieter wrote:
SonGokuGT wrote:I'm interested in seeing these screencaps of the frames in DB...
Can one of you post a quick pic?
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1686/krillindo6.png
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4041 ... lmauf8.png

old bootleg shots
Thank you! Those are interesting... I wonder what happened with those... Bad alignment? Cels were not painted correctly? Hmmm...

In the flashback from the episode after everything is fine. At the bottom of the first cel you get to see Kuririn's head, in other words the top of the picture is visible again, so it's probably a wraparound mistake.