Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

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Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by coola » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:03 am

Bardock character already got ruined with DB Minus and Episode of Bardock, and i heard Fuji TV will air Freeza movie with some extra scenes, i really hope they won't be these bonus Super pages. First of, it wouldn't work, since you can't bring back to live person who died naturally, and second, do we really need comedy in what is considered darkest chapter in Dragon Ball history? It really start to look like Star Wars, i know creator have right to change his creation, but why for worse? :cry:
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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by omaro34 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:58 am

From my understanding and based on what I've read, this special will be Trunks taking out Mecha Freeza & King Cold from Trunks' viewpoint.

So all that would be really be shown that would be different would be how Trunks came to the present timeline, and more importantly his decision to interfere after realizing that Goku isn't around.
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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by sintzu » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:03 pm

coola wrote: Do we really need comedy in what is considered darkest chapter in Dragon Ball history ?

It really start to look like Star Wars, i know creator have right to change his creation, but why for worse? :cry:
Yes, for the same reason we need comedy every minute in the Black arc which is arguably darker.

Because he and the other people working on the franchise don't really care about quality and consistency.

In terms of it getting animated, I'm not sure it'll be in the movie but it might make it into a flashback in Super.
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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by Luso Saiyan » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:46 am

coola wrote:Bardock character already got ruined with DB Minus and Episode of Bardock,
It got? How come I didn't get the memo?

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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:18 pm

Luso Saiyan wrote:
coola wrote:Bardock character already got ruined with DB Minus and Episode of Bardock,
It got? How come I didn't get the memo?
Well it's generally agreed, yes. You don't have to agree, but there was nothing wrong with how coola said that.

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Post by ParkerAL » Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:41 pm

There's no such thing as a "generally agreed" opinion - only people who claim there is in order to support their own views.

Not that I think Dragon Ball Minus or Episode of Bardock are all that swift either - they're both very flawed - but there's no way to prove they ruined Bardock's character for a majority of fans.
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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by SaiyanZ » Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:39 am

Probably. Toei just can't recreate the atmosphere the original one had. The way music is placed and their shiny, plastic looking character models will ruin it for me personally, not to mention Toei trying to make everything extra colorful.
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Post by sintzu » Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:38 am

ParkerAL wrote:There's no such thing as a "generally agreed" opinion.
The Dark Knight being a good movie is a generally agreed opinion.

The Witcher 3 being a good game is a generally agreed opinion.

And there are countless others.
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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by ShadowBardock89 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:36 am

If they slap in Blue-haired Trunks, then I'll considered it an egregious retcon.
Considering the fact that present Trunks still has purple hair, it still does not make any sense.
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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by dbs fanboy » Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:39 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Luso Saiyan wrote:
coola wrote:Bardock character already got ruined with DB Minus and Episode of Bardock,
It got? How come I didn't get the memo?
Well it's generally agreed, yes. You don't have to agree, but there was nothing wrong with how coola said that.
What brothers me in db minus is not Bardock, because he was still killing, like in ep of Bardock.
So he didn't change, he was a killer.

My problem is because with this manga , Goku's story is too simylar to Superman's.

I wouldn't mind seeing Bardock saving kid Goku, it's just the way it happened what is wrong inmho.
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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by Friezacooler » Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:57 am

dbs fanboy wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:
Luso Saiyan wrote:
It got? How come I didn't get the memo?
Well it's generally agreed, yes. You don't have to agree, but there was nothing wrong with how coola said that.
What brothers me in db minus is not Bardock, because he was still killing, like in ep of Bardock.
So he didn't change, he was a killer.

My problem is because with this manga , Goku's story is too simylar to Superman's.

I wouldn't mind seeing Bardock saving kid Goku, it's just the way it happened what is wrong inmho.
it is the other way round superman rippid off multipiple folklore's,
that preceded himself so that doesn't say much.

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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by Luso Saiyan » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:39 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:Well it's generally agreed, yes. You don't have to agree, but there was nothing wrong with how coola said that.
It's wrong to present it as a fact, which it isn't. Something being "generally agreed" (by whom? how many people?) doesn't change that.

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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:04 pm

Luso Saiyan wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:Well it's generally agreed, yes. You don't have to agree, but there was nothing wrong with how coola said that.
It's wrong to present it as a fact, which it isn't. Something being "generally agreed" (by whom? how many people?) doesn't change that.
It was not being presented as a fact. What? Do you expect people to say "in my opinion" after every sentence? Don't be ridiculous.

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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by Luso Saiyan » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:35 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:It was not being presented as a fact.
Yes, it was. It's the premise for the whole thread. And no, I don't need an "IMO" in every post. That has nothing to do with my point.

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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by jplaya2023 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:31 pm

with the information we have from the new chapter this is what the trunks special needs to be...

recount of events post cell's death to dabura attacking him

training with supreme kaiou using the z sword and transofrming to ssj2

fighting dabura again and killing him

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appearance of black and his fight with them which leads to him getting in the time machine to the present timeline

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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by Cipher » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:47 pm

I hope so.

Gohan and Piccolo posts aren't enough for me. The whining must increase!

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Re: Will Trunks Special be "ruined" too?

Post by TekTheNinja » Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:19 pm

Cipher wrote:I hope so.

Gohan and Piccolo posts aren't enough for me. The whining must increase!
Why exactly are you HAPPY about characters being fucked over? -_-

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