Goku's auto win button.

[Majin Whis]

What do you guys think of Goku's new auto win button? As soon as he was given that button I just knew that was an auto win button. Unless it somehow gets destroyed, that button is just so over powered. I just hope Goku is too prideful to use it in the long run or leaves it laying around somewhere and forgets it.

Not to mention how they made Beerus a total push over now.

[precita]

And for that reason alone you know it'll never be used to win any fight. Not only would Goku not allow that, but it makes poor storytelling for obvious reasons.

I don't think we have anything to worry about. The writers aren't stupid enough to have the villains defeated in one blow by an all powerful God.

[dario03]

I'm wondering what would happen if it gets pushed while in the other timeline...

Since he got it right before time travelling and time travelling is supposed to be off limits. Actually a bit odd Whis didn't ask him not to take it with him.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Considering how unstable Zeno apparently is, it could just as easily double as a suicide button, depending on the circumstances.

[Friezacooler]

lowballing time, I assume the way Zeno destroyed the 6 universes, is by destroying the globes on those Pillars in his verse. so if he arrived on earth he can't replicate the same feat. No DBZ character attack output is large enough or strong enough, as they haven't proven to affect a solar system forget about a universe. Every major statement has been a pluff and unproven hype.

[Polyphase Avatron]

lowballing time, I assume the way Zeno destroyed the 6 universes, is by destroying the globes on those Pillars in his verse. so if he arrived on earth he can't replicate the same feat. No DBZ character attack output is large enough or strong enough, as they haven't proven to affect a solar system forget about a universe. Every major statement has been a pluff and unproven hype.

I think those are just windows that view into the universes, not the universes themselves. Else why would they make a big deal of Zeno having the power to do that when anyone in his home could do the same thing? And why were Beerus and Champa so afraid of him when he was at the tournament, far away from the place where those globes were? According to your theory he would have had no power then.

Anyway when Goku fought Beerus we saw a planet disintegrate, and it didn't look like a planet in our solar system (and we know the DB solar system matches the RL one at least in some aspects like having Jupiter). So whatever they did had the range to destroy a planet beyond the solar system. Of course a lot of that fight made no sense, like the damage getting greater the farther away it was from the origin point, and the Kaio/Kaioshin planets being subjected to the waves but not shaking or being damaged or anything, despite closer planets being destroyed. But I'm pretty sure something majorly bad would have happened had it been allowed to continue.

[Friezacooler]

lowballing time, I assume the way Zeno destroyed the 6 universes, is by destroying the globes on those Pillars in his verse. so if he arrived on earth he can't replicate the same feat. No DBZ character attack output is large enough or strong enough, as they haven't proven to affect a solar system forget about a universe. Every major statement has been a pluff and unproven hype.

I think those are just windows that view into the universes, not the universes themselves. Else why would they make a big deal of Zeno having the power to do that when anyone in his home could do the same thing? And why were Beerus and Champa so afraid of him when he was at the tournament, far away from the place where those globes were? According to your theory he would have had no power then.

Anyway when Goku fought Beerus we saw a planet disintegrate, and it didn't look like a planet in our solar system (and we know the DB solar system matches the RL one at least in some aspects like having Jupiter). So whatever they did had the range to destroy a planet beyond the solar system. Of course a lot of that fight made no sense, like the damage getting greater the farther away it was from the origin point, and the Kaio/Kaioshin planets being subjected to the waves but not shaking or being damaged or anything, despite closer planets being destroyed. But I'm pretty sure something majorly bad would have happened had it been allowed to continue.

The attendants might not have the magical ability to affect those orbs. Still Beerus has been claimed to be able to destroy a solar system in the blink of an eye and Omni king to destroy the universe in an instant, but both are just statements that might get debunked in the near future. Just like when King kai said to Goku that planet Vegeta was destroyed by a kami with meteors but is sames to be frieza afterwards. Both Goku and Beerus would have died in their attack according to elder kai, so I don't see why Beerus fears Omni king as he was this, suicidal twice with Goku and Champa.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Do we even know Goku took the button? I assume he did but wasn't there a small time skip? Took it into the future I mean


What if Goku goes for it and we see a flashback to Whis confiscating it. Then Goku is all "Fudge I forgot..."

[Polyphase Avatron]

The attendants might not have the magical ability to affect those orbs.

Suggesting that affecting the orbs affects the universes and that only Zeno has the special ability to do so seems to violate Occam's Razor, as the much simpler explanation is that he just has the power to destroy the actual universes like Whis said. Whis did say that he was the strongest, not that he had some strange ability like that unrelated to his actual strength.

Still Beerus has been claimed to be able to destroy a solar system in the blink of an eye and Omni king to destroy the universe in an instant, but both are just statements that might get debunked in the near future. Just like when King kai said to Goku that planet Vegeta was destroyed by a kami with meteors but is sames to be frieza afterwards. Both Goku and Beerus would have died in their attack according to elder kai, so I don't see why Beerus fears Omni king as he was this, suicidal twice with Goku and Champa.

Beerus cancelled his attack against Goku because he was afraid of the damage it would do, so he was not really suicidal there.