Unpopular DB opinions

[Cipher]

generally with hindsight I really hate Bruce Faulconer's score. But there are two tracks I still find to be very enjoyable and better than Sumimoto.

Cell's theme and the 'Goku going SS3'

I don't think the actual musical work in the Faulconer score deserves wholesale criticism. There's a lot of good stuff there.

Its suitability for Dragon Ball and the way it was utilized as a score (constantly playing, per FUNimation's instructions) are different issues.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Not sure how unpopular this is, but:

- The current ending theme of Dragonball Super is very catchy, and probably the best one the show has had so far

[ABED]

I don't think Vegeta's speechifying in the dub of the Majin Buu arc is all that great. It's FAR better than the dub had been before and a big step in the right direction but including Freeza as a reason for Vegeta's choice to let Babidi take him over wasn't nearly as deep as dub defenders would like you to believe.

[Bansho64]

Scott McNeil is the best English dubbed Piccolo His performance in the Saiyan-Namek arcs was good to me but his performance in the 3 movies was AWESOME in my opinion. Some of his lines in Dead Zone are sooooooo cool. I'm about to put some on my Xbox profile as we speak

[ABED]

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I also think he's the best English speaking Piccolo. Sabat is great as well, but I think Sabat might even say McNeil's Piccolo is the better of the two.

[Bansho64]

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I also think he's the best English speaking Piccolo. Sabat is great as well, but I think Sabat might even say McNeil's Piccolo is the better of the two.

Not from what I've seen outside of Kanzenshuu. There's nothing wrong with this but I've seen many people say that Chris Sabat's very performance in the Z dub is the best and that he's trying to hard to be like the Japanese actors nowadays. I've also heard some say that his Z dub performance is more believable than his Kai one.

[ABED]

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I also think he's the best English speaking Piccolo. Sabat is great as well, but I think Sabat might even say McNeil's Piccolo is the better of the two.

Not from what I've seen outside of Kanzenshuu. There's nothing wrong with this but I've seen many people say that Chris Sabat's very performance in the Z dub is the best and that he's trying to hard to be like the Japanese actors nowadays. I've also heard some say that his Z dub performance is more believable than his Kai one.

It depends on where you look. I don't think youtube comment sections are a great way to gauge popular opinion.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Scott McNeil is the best English dubbed Piccolo His performance in the Saiyan-Namek arcs was good to me but his performance in the 3 movies was AWESOME in my opinion. Some of his lines in Dead Zone are sooooooo cool. I'm about to put some on my Xbox profile as we speak

Not an unpopular opinion at all. Scott McNeil as Piccolo and Chris Ayres as Freeza are both up there as the greatest casting decisions in the history of English dubbed Dragon Ball.

Sabat is great as well, but I think Sabat might even say McNeil's Piccolo is the better of the two.

Not from what I've seen outside of Kanzenshuu. There's nothing wrong with this but I've seen many people say that Chris Sabat's very performance in the Z dub is the best and that he's trying to hard to be like the Japanese actors nowadays. I've also heard some say that his Z dub performance is more believable than his Kai one.

Each to their own I suppose, but I find Sabat's Vegeta in Kai to be more believable. He doesn't try too hard to sound like Horikawa, yes the characterization is the same but thats because the dub is an adaptation, but in my opinion each version stands on its own because each actor has their own take on the character.

[Bansho64]

Dang, it really is a popular opinion? That's great. I used to think he didn't get enough credit but that's because I had been looking at random YouTube comments. Yeah, not my smartest move Also, Dragon Ball Ireland, I agree with you on all counts about Z Vegeta vs Kai Vegeta. It works well with some voices like Eric Legrand's own take on Vegeta and Scott McNeil himself when he does Piccolo. Brian Drummond's Vegeta was great and Sabat trying to imitate it didn't really work out so it was great when he finally started to make the character his own and stopped trying to copy his predecessor. Just my opinion.

[ABED]

Dang, it really is a popular opinion? That's great. I used to think he didn't get enough credit but that's because I had been looking at random YouTube comments. Yeah, not my smartest move Also, Dragon Ball Ireland, I agree with you on all counts about Z Vegeta vs Kai Vegeta. It works well with some voices like Eric Legrand's own take on Vegeta and Scott McNeil himself when he does Piccolo. Brian Drummond's Vegeta was great and Sabat trying to imitate it didn't really work out so it was great when he finally started to make the character his own and stopped trying to copy his predecessor. Just my opinion.

The powers that be hired the in-house cast to imitate the Ocean Group.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Dang, it really is a popular opinion? That's great. I used to think he didn't get enough credit but that's because I had been looking at random YouTube comments. Yeah, not my smartest move Also, Dragon Ball Ireland, I agree with you on all counts about Z Vegeta vs Kai Vegeta. It works well with some voices like Eric Legrand's own take on Vegeta and Scott McNeil himself when he does Piccolo. Brian Drummond's Vegeta was great and Sabat trying to imitate it didn't really work out so it was great when he finally started to make the character his own and stopped trying to copy his predecessor. Just my opinion.

There are a lot of Ocean haters out there but its mainly because their dub was edited, and the Westwood dub while lighter on the edits had a rushed production schedule. The Pioneer trilogy was uncut but it's hard to find. If they had a chance to do the entire series like those three movies I don't think the criticisms would be as vocal.

I think you will find a lot of people agree with you on Z Sabat vs Kai Sabat. There will always be people who disagree, but in general the consensus is that the Funimation cast were at their best when they stopped trying to imitate the Ocean cast.

[ABED]

Dang, it really is a popular opinion? That's great. I used to think he didn't get enough credit but that's because I had been looking at random YouTube comments. Yeah, not my smartest move Also, Dragon Ball Ireland, I agree with you on all counts about Z Vegeta vs Kai Vegeta. It works well with some voices like Eric Legrand's own take on Vegeta and Scott McNeil himself when he does Piccolo. Brian Drummond's Vegeta was great and Sabat trying to imitate it didn't really work out so it was great when he finally started to make the character his own and stopped trying to copy his predecessor. Just my opinion.

There are a lot of Ocean haters out there but its mainly because their dub was edited, and the Westwood dub while lighter on the edits had a rushed production schedule. The Pioneer trilogy was uncut but it's hard to find. If they had a chance to do the entire series like those three movies I don't think the criticisms would be as vocal.

I think you will find a lot of people agree with you on Z Sabat vs Kai Sabat. There will always be people who disagree, but in general the consensus is that the Funimation cast were at their best when they stopped trying to imitate the Ocean cast.

Maybe at first, but the Z dub was also edited (the dialog, not the footage). Most of the hate for the previous cast is because they aren't what many fans grew up with. And I don't know how anyone who is being honest and objective couldn't come to the conclusion that the Z dub is inferior to Kai. Affection and nostalgia for the previous dub is a separate issue.

[Dbzfan94]

Dang, it really is a popular opinion? That's great. I used to think he didn't get enough credit but that's because I had been looking at random YouTube comments. Yeah, not my smartest move Also, Dragon Ball Ireland, I agree with you on all counts about Z Vegeta vs Kai Vegeta. It works well with some voices like Eric Legrand's own take on Vegeta and Scott McNeil himself when he does Piccolo. Brian Drummond's Vegeta was great and Sabat trying to imitate it didn't really work out so it was great when he finally started to make the character his own and stopped trying to copy his predecessor. Just my opinion.

There are a lot of Ocean haters out there but its mainly because their dub was edited, and the Westwood dub while lighter on the edits had a rushed production schedule. The Pioneer trilogy was uncut but it's hard to find. If they had a chance to do the entire series like those three movies I don't think the criticisms would be as vocal.

I think you will find a lot of people agree with you on Z Sabat vs Kai Sabat. There will always be people who disagree, but in general the consensus is that the Funimation cast were at their best when they stopped trying to imitate the Ocean cast.

Maybe at first, but the Z dub was also edited (the dialog, not the footage). Most of the hate for the previous cast is because they aren't what many fans grew up with. And I don't know how anyone who is being honest and objective couldn't come to the conclusion that the Z dub is inferior to Kai. Affection and nostalgia for the previous dub is a separate issue.

That's the point I'm at now. I know Kai is vastly superior, but I still really hold my sentiments with the Z dub

[Bansho64]

I actually really love some of Movie 6's animation.

[Cipher]

I actually really love some of Movie 6's animation.

I love some of the choreography in that one. It's the last time for quite a while we get to see some interesting-looking fighting on a superpowered scale. (I'd say until Goku vs. Janemba, probably, and possibly a few moments in the Goku vs. Vegeta fight in the anime.)

The beat where Goku and Coola both teleport away as Vegeta is about to fire at them when they're on the ground is amazing, and the entire fight is filled with little moments like that.

[kinisking]

I like Yamamuro's character models and don't understand the hate.

[Dbzfan94]

I don't think Vegeta's speechifying in the dub of the Majin Buu arc is all that great. It's FAR better than the dub had been before and a big step in the right direction but including Freeza as a reason for Vegeta's choice to let Babidi take him over wasn't nearly as deep as dub defenders would like you to believe.

Meh, I just love that speech, fully accurate or not. Which is why it's my sig lol

[Kanassa]

The strange hatred for the Pilaf Gang. Now, I don't mean I'm annoyed by hating them, but just the times where it goes overboard. Yeah, some of their jokes miss the mark by a mile and it's debatable that they ruin some of the tone. But there are times like the recent episode where you see comments acting like the episode is ruined just for the pilaf gang being there even if they did nothing in the scene.

[Boo Machine]

The strange hatred for the Pilaf Gang. Now, I don't mean I'm annoyed by hating them, but just the times where it goes overboard. Yeah, some of their jokes miss the mark by a mile and it's debatable that they ruin some of the tone. But there are times like the recent episode where you see comments acting like the episode is ruined just for the pilaf gang being there even if they did nothing in the scene.

I enjoy the Pilaf Gang. I think there is only two times where I thought they were being focused on a little too much.

[Kakacarrottop]

There are a lot of Ocean haters out there but its mainly because their dub was edited, and the Westwood dub while lighter on the edits had a rushed production schedule. The Pioneer trilogy was uncut but it's hard to find. If they had a chance to do the entire series like those three movies I don't think the criticisms would be as vocal.

The Westwood dub could have been of identical quality to the Pioneer dub, and the typical Youtube Dragon Ball Z fan would still ridicule the voices while praising FUNimation's bad dub with the BF soundtrack. More informed Dragon Ball/anime fans would praise it, but for everyone else It's all about which version they are more familiar with. Even the 4Kids-esque Saban dub would likely be held in high regard by most American fans if it had covered the entire series, instead of ending at Recoome.