Akira Toriyama's view on "DragonBall GT"

[MajinVejitaXV]

That's from Akira Toriyama? What is it from, the Perfect Files, or the GT DragonBook?

'Tis from the DragonBook that came with the GT DragonBox, the first page to be exact. I actually broke it out earlier and looked it over. I've really got to hasten my studies so I can read all the neat stuff they crammed into these books

That is interesting (and quite frankly what I'd like to believe, not that it matters either way for me) but it's a bit hard to determine his exact opinion from an insert that came with the GT boxed set. I can't imagine the fans shelling out for it would be very happy if Toriyama had flat-out dissed it.

Agreed. In all honesty, I don't think Toriyama is the type (and this is outlandish of me to say since I don't know the guy, but I'm talking about his demeanor from stuff I've read) to come out and say something flat-out mean/negative about the series either way. I think he picked his words carefully, and the fact that he says "side-story" instead of something more in line with it being a direct continuation speaks volumes in a subtle manner.

-Corey

[Mystic Jack]

Dearest me. It certainly seems that Toriyama definitely supported it more then I first thought, especially since I've seen some at this point, I thought Toriyama would just say whatever... and GT would start. Hmmm, you learn something new everyday.

[Anonymous Friend]

Isn't this kinda in the same realm of how Goerge Lucas almost kinda sorta acknowlegdes some of the books that have been written within the Star Wars Universe?

[MisterFlashdude]

Isn't this kinda in the same realm of how Goerge Lucas almost kinda sorta acknowlegdes some of the books that have been written within the Star Wars Universe?

But the average fan doesn't harbor animosity towards Star Wars books, requiring the creator of the original story to acknowledge them.

But yes, George Lucas pays quite a bit of homeage to printed books, comic books, and video games based in the series . (Such as taking the name of the capitol planet, Coruscant, from a book written after the original trilogy.)

[Soluzar]

Isn't this kinda in the same realm of how Goerge Lucas almost kinda sorta acknowlegdes some of the books that have been written within the Star Wars Universe?

But the average fan doesn't harbor animosity towards Star Wars books, requiring the creator of the original story to acknowledge them.

But yes, George Lucas pays quite a bit of homeage to printed books, comic books, and video games based in the series . (Such as taking the name of the capitol planet, Coruscant, from a book written after the original trilogy.)

He also freely overwrites their invented continuity with his own real continuity. The books are interesting, they are fun, they can sometimes form the basis for real continuity, but they are certainly not canon.

[Aoi]

hehe this makes me remember an old friend who is a big star wars fan. He always told me that the star wars books are canon as long as they do not contradict the movies to a point where it is impossible to happen.

here is what is said: The Star Wars canon consists of the six Star Wars feature films, along with all officially licensed, non-contradicting spin-off works to the six films. As once defined by Lucas Licensing:

"We have what we call Canon, which is the screenplays, novelizations, and other works that are directly tied into continuity, and then there are a lot of marginal things, like the old Marvel Comics series, that we don't really try to work into the continuity when we're planning new projects. Even the LucasArts interactive games have a premise, a backstory with player characters that we're trying to tie into the overall continuity. It is sort of a godlike undertaking. We are creating this universe as we go along, but somebody has to keep his finger on everything that came before." — Allan Kausch, from The Secrets of Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_wars_canon

George Lucas talks more about this in the article.

[tainted saiyan]

Personally, I decide My canon. If I want Movie 1 to be canon, I have Krillin and gang have a case of short term amnesia and forget about Gohan.If I want Movie 5 to be canon, I imagine that the heart disease is affecting Goku(preventing him from going SSJ).

[MajinVejitaXV]

Personally, I decide My canon. If I want Movie 1 to be canon, I have Krillin and gang have a case of short term amnesia and forget about Gohan.If I want Movie 5 to be canon, I imagine that the heart disease is affecting Goku(preventing him from going SSJ).

...yeah, so? Some people decide that they want Goku and Gohan to be in an incestuous, homosexual relationship. Doesn't make it any more valid

-Corey

[Castor Troy]

Personally, I decide My canon. If I want Movie 1 to be canon, I have Krillin and gang have a case of short term amnesia and forget about Gohan.If I want Movie 5 to be canon, I imagine that the heart disease is affecting Goku(preventing him from going SSJ).

...yeah, so? Some people decide that they want Goku and Gohan to be in an incestuous, homosexual relationship. Doesn't make it any more valid

-Corey

Isn't there fan fiction about that?

[Anonymous Friend]

Here you go. At the bottom.

[Soluzar]

...yeah, so? Some people decide that they want Goku and Gohan to be in an incestuous, homosexual relationship. Doesn't make it any more valid

Isn't there fan fiction about that?

Of course there is. Rule #34 pretty much guarantees that not only is there fan fiction, but lavishly illustrated doujinshi and possible even the odd erogame or five.

[Aoi]

hehe it would be funny if Akira would have writen something bad about GT in their own DVD case. But I think from his Daizen interview (when Dragon ball GT first came out) he liked the idea TOEI was taking the story, before it became just another Dragon ball Z in the super 17/dragon saga)

[SaiyaMel]

It may be that he does disapprove on some aspects of GT, but kept his mouth shut.. i would be quite pissed if i were him, and wouldn't hesitate to voice it.

[Soluzar]

hehe it would be funny if Akira would have writen something bad about GT in their own DVD case. But I think from his Daizen interview (when Dragon ball GT first came out) he liked the idea TOEI was taking the story, before it became just another Dragon ball Z in the super 17/dragon saga)

[quote="VegettoEX: "Dear Fanboys""]His name is not "Akira."
Either call him "Akira Toriyama" or simply "Toriyama." You're not on a first-name basis with the man. Show some damn respect. [/quote]
There's nothing I could add to that.

[Big Momma]

それが『ドラゴンボールGT』です

I'm so proud of myself for being able to translate that. I'm such a newb.

[Aoi]

hehe it would be funny if Akira would have writen something bad about GT in their own DVD case. But I think from his Daizen interview (when Dragon ball GT first came out) he liked the idea TOEI was taking the story, before it became just another Dragon ball Z in the super 17/dragon saga)

[quote="VegettoEX: "Dear Fanboys""]His name is not "Akira."
Either call him "Akira Toriyama" or simply "Toriyama." You're not on a first-name basis with the man. Show some damn respect.

There's nothing I could add to that.[/quote]

Excuse me Soluzar. I don't mean to be rude (you clearly are).

1) In the culture I grew in the second half of my life (Argentina), it is not disrespecful to call a celebrity by first name, but in fact it is disrespectful to call him by second name.

2) Are you Japanese? Because I'm sure it's not a disrespect in North America or Europe to name someone you do not know by first name basis (I have lived in the united states for a few years and I know that even professionals go as far as calling them by nick name)

3) You are no one to talk to me about Akira Toriyama. This is what is great about the internet and how little you know who you really are talking to. Instead of trying to protect "rude" people over insulting Toriyama, I think you should look at yourself first.

[Olivier Hague]

In the culture I grew in the second half of my life (Argentina), it is not disrespecful to call a celebrity by first name, but in fact it is disrespectful to call him by second name.

But that's not how it works in Japan, and since we're talking about a Japanese person, here...

I'm sure it's not a disrespect in North America or Europe to name someone you do not know by first name basis (I have lived in the united states for a few years and I know that even professionals go as far as calling them by nick name)

But that's not how it works in Japan, and since we're talking about a Japanese person, here...

You are no one to talk to me about Akira Toriyama. This is what is great about the internet and how little you know who you really are talking to.

And who the hell do you think you are?

[Super Sonic]

Like I said in another thread, it seems Mr. Toriyama's thoughts on GT are not like Mr Watsuki's thoughts on Samurai X: Reflection, which are reasonably negative.

[Aoi]

In the culture I grew in the second half of my life (Argentina), it is not disrespecful to call a celebrity by first name, but in fact it is disrespectful to call him by second name.

But that's not how it works in Japan, and since we're talking about a Japanese person, here...

I'm sure it's not a disrespect in North America or Europe to name someone you do not know by first name basis (I have lived in the united states for a few years and I know that even professionals go as far as calling them by nick name)

But that's not how it works in Japan, and since we're talking about a Japanese person, here...

You are no one to talk to me about Akira Toriyama. This is what is great about the internet and how little you know who you really are talking to.

And who the hell do you think you are?

1) Right, and we're speaking in a message board inhabitted by people from mostly the United States.
2) I'm Japanese (so nice try ), speaking of someone on first name basis is not an insult in the way you see it, it just breaks any sense of formality. I didnt know I was in a job interview when talking about dragon ball on the internet.
3) If you think it matters to Akira that they call him by both names on an internet forum about casual dragon ball talk, then you really have a wrong view of who this man really is. Wont go into too detail of my few meetings with him (only watched though).

Football example:
This is funny because it reminds me of when last year my friend told me how CEltic (scotland football team) went to play Yokohama (my team). He went with Rangers shirt to the game (colour similar to Yokohama so he likes it). Many idiot Japanese fans insulted him and told him to leave because he was insulting "our guests" in that they see Rangers shirts as insulting (they should, very famous rivalry about religion) (also we have a "hooligan" group singing with the Celtic fans in same stands, so did not want to look bad since Japan fans try to copy European and South American fans, they worship them on tv when shown). The Celtic fans looked around surprised, laughed and said it was "alright" because how could they expect a Japanese fan to understand and how it was only bad if you walked into the worst crowd in Celtic stadium with that shirt.

this is the perfect example for this.
You can keep trying all day...

[VegettoEX]

Regardless of what your views are, I'm going to once again warn you to type properly. You're clearly aware of multiple languages and cultures, and as such, should have no problem following the rules you've agreed to.