"Resurrection 'F'" Receiving New Trunks Material in Fuji TV Airing

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Re: "Resurrection 'F'" Receiving New Trunks Material in Fuji TV Airing

Post by Ajay » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:56 pm

sintzu wrote:Weren't those scenes already produced but left out of the original version due to time restraints ?
Not in the sense that they were made and then cut out, I don't believe.

Toriyama said that his original scenario “was actually so long that it had to be cut down”. He said it was around 120 minutes based on the original storyboards.

I've never seen anything that explicitly says, "We animated extra footage, but cut it out". That doesn't seem logical financially, especially when you can very easily determine a length based on script and storyboard length.

I've always assumed they simply went back and animated the parts that never made it through to the key animation stage. There wasn't anything particularly high-end in there, so it never seemed unreasonable.
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Re: "Resurrection 'F'" Receiving New Trunks Material in Fuji TV Airing

Post by sintzu » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:06 pm

Ajay wrote:
I've never seen anything that explicitly says, "We animated extra footage, but cut it out". That doesn't seem logical financially, especially when you can very easily determine a length based on script and storyboard length.
Hollywood do it all the time.

The reason I think they already had them is because of how random they were.

For example, we get a few seconds of Vegeta flying up to Beerus before they fight or him looking for him in a trashcan.

I could be wrong but apart from the recap at the start, the rest seem to random for them to chose as extra scenes.

I think if they didn't already have them, they would've just given us a longer recap like what they did with today's RF instead of making random 10 or less second scenes to sprinkle here and there.
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Re: "Resurrection 'F'" Receiving New Trunks Material in Fuji TV Airing

Post by Ajay » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:12 pm

sintzu wrote:Hollywood do it all the time.
The reason I think they already had them is because of how random they were.
For example, we get a few seconds of Vegeta flying up to Beerus before they fight or him looking for him in a trashcan.
I could be wrong but apart from the recap at the start, the rest seem to random for them to chose as extra scenes.
I think if they didn't already have them, they would've just given us a longer recap like what they did with today's RF instead of making random 10 or less second scenes to sprinkle here and there.
For sure, but live action is very different from physically sitting down and animating.

I honestly don't know. I was just throwing out there what I'd always assumed. You may well be right!

I'm sure someone with a better idea can clarify.
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Re: "Resurrection 'F'" Receiving New Trunks Material in Fuji TV Airing

Post by Puto » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:54 pm

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Ajay wrote:They were more than capable of producing extra footage throughout Battle of Gods, so I very much doubt anything has changed here.
Weren't those scenes already produced but left out of the original version due to time restraints ?
Extremely unlikely, since the new scenes didn't have Yuko Minaguchi playing Videl.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:08 pm

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Post by Khin » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:14 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Back from work. Did I miss anything important?
Sadly no, there wasn't anything noteworthy in the new added scenes.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:18 pm

Khin wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Back from work. Did I miss anything important?
Sadly no, there wasn't anything noteworthy in the new added scenes.
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Well... was the new animation at least good?

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Post by samuo2 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:25 pm

Ajay wrote:
sintzu wrote:Hollywood do it all the time.
The reason I think they already had them is because of how random they were.
For example, we get a few seconds of Vegeta flying up to Beerus before they fight or him looking for him in a trashcan.
I could be wrong but apart from the recap at the start, the rest seem to random for them to chose as extra scenes.
I think if they didn't already have them, they would've just given us a longer recap like what they did with today's RF instead of making random 10 or less second scenes to sprinkle here and there.
For sure, but live action is very different from physically sitting down and animating.

I honestly don't know. I was just throwing out there what I'd always assumed. You may well be right!

I'm sure someone with a better idea can clarify.
I was thinking like sintsu, sorry if I'm wrong.

In any case I find this very weird to draw and add some scenes which last a few seconds and like mentionned before, the majority is so random. That's why I had this impression of cut and add later.

Here's a recap at the begginning, with Super OST and SFX in addition, and a teaser of Future Trunks's Arc of DB Super, seems pretty weird when we saw the results of the Director's Cut of BoG.

@LordBeerus, tha animation was so damn good
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Post by Sonicjamareiz » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:26 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Khin wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Back from work. Did I miss anything important?
Sadly no, there wasn't anything noteworthy in the new added scenes.
Image

Well... was the new animation at least good?
It was alright I guess nothing worth cumming over. :|
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Re: "Resurrection 'F'" Receiving New Trunks Material in Fuji TV Airing

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:28 pm

Holy shit!!! SSJ Goku vs Freeza, the most iconic fight from anime history by far, returns in all its glory with amazing quality, buff Goku and no censorship.
I was expecting something cool, but this was unbelievable. :shock: :shock:

I have the feeling Toei wanted remake this iconic fight for a long time, but they didn't had the right opportunity yet.
They scratched the surface with UT cutscenes, BOG flashback and the Director's Cut version, but now the time to remake it in a big way finally arrived.

They even managed to make Vegeta younger, which is something that BOG Movie failed to do with Vegeta's flashback about his first encounter with Beerus.
I'm really happy with this recap. Seriously, I love it. :clap:

I demand a recap like this from the Cell Games, to see my boy Gohan SSJ2 kicking ass on this quality!

It's funny how this 13 minutes extra stuff has so much better music than the entire original Movie. The soundtrack of this Movie was terribly bad with a lot of silent moments.

As for the Director's Cut version overall, I have to say I'm not satisfied. FT Trunks arc stuff feels so pointless here.
I would gladly replace it for some Freeza training sequence and add more 7 minutes of extra stuff. 20 minutes would be good.

I was expecting they would surprise us with our deserved third Movie announcement in the end, but looks like I was dreaming too high.

Anyway, I always said ROF is one of the best DB products when to comes to visual quality and with this recap of SSJ Goku vs Freeza added now, the more I believe in that.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:33 pm

samuo2 wrote:@LordBeerus, tha animation was so damn good
That was... pretty alright as whole. I thought everything from Goku transforming into a SSJ was very well done, but it was certainly nothing spectacular or as great as should have and could have been. But I thought the scenes that were reanimated were better animated than how it was in Z. But that's primarily due to how faithful the new animated scenes were to how the fight was portrayed in the manga.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:44 pm

This version is better for new fans that haven't seen the Freeza arc, and to make them see the new Future Trunks arc.

I really liked how they made the recap closer to the manga, and Goku vs Freeza was great!
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Post by Cipher » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:35 pm

Don't know what people were expecting from this. Everything looked good and was nicely directed. I loved seeing a manga-accurate Super Saiyan transformation; I've always preferred that quick snap.

Even the soundtrack worked well outside of the theme song instrumental used for Goku's arrival. Only other part of the Namek content I disliked was the white flash effect as Freeza's hit by the disc.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:46 pm

That was pretty rad. Don't feel a sense of disappointed at all. Definitely what Kai should have been with all their closer to Manga spiel.

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Post by Cipher » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:47 pm

I also want to say, it's crazy how much less distracting Yamamuro's designs are when depicting manga-accurate scenes.

By the way, the actual animation was nothing to write home about in these scenes -- though it never seemed to cut major corners. Mostly the art and direction were just really on point.

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Post by Xeztin » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:56 pm

I wonder if Funimation will dub the special edition?

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:59 pm

Cipher wrote:Don't know what people were expecting from this. Everything looked good and was nicely directed. I loved seeing a manga-accurate Super Saiyan transformation; I've always preferred that quick snap.

Even the soundtrack worked well outside of the theme song instrumental used for Goku's arrival. Only other part of the Namek content I disliked was the white flash effect as Freeza's hit by the disc.
It was more than I expected, actually. The problem is that some where expecting a Future Trunks TV Special for some reason...
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Dicrossus » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:14 pm

I thought they would show how Goku defeated Freeza and King Cold in Mirai Trunks timeline.

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Post by mikezilla2 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:37 am

lol in other words this probably wont end up in the west unless its a tv extra not what i was hoping to see at all

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:54 am

Did they cut scenes from the theatrical cut? If so, which ones?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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