Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:23 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
BakaManiaHD wrote:Oh man.. I really dont like the color of the super saiyan blue without it's aura.. It looks so "greenish" to me..

I've tried to re-color it a little bit. What do you guys think?


Before:
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After:
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Oh and i REALLY REALLY LOVE this Goku shot btw
Really don't like that edit. Seems wayy to dark. I agree the above original seems a little too greenish I think the movie had the colour perfect it wasn't as green as that, here :
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It definitely isn't as green. Super has been widely inconsistent regarding SSGSS. Probably one of my gripes about Super the colours have been a little inconsistent.
Those look like the same color to me :wtf:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:50 pm

It's only green when you compare it to an edit. The color is fine the way it is. No need to complain about something like that. Now, if Super Saiyan Blue starts to become a real Super Saiyan Green, then we'll talk. :P
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Avok » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:38 pm

As horrible as it is, this version looks ten times better than the icy candy-like coloring the anime has:

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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:39 pm

Horrible? Since when? :o
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by CarL_J » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:42 pm

Well, SSB started to look weird since the Future Trunks arc (I think) in the Vaughnlive streams.

Vaughnlive:

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Normal episode in HD:

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(got the pictures from Ajay's twitter)

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:52 pm

The only time any super saiyan looked horrible was in Yo son Goku and his friends return.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Ajay » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:57 pm

The colour differences you're seeing are due to the different sources.

Different capture methods will produce different colour tones. You also have to account for the different channels, too.

Back when the Boo arc of Kai was airing, Kei pointed out that, while there is a bad green tint, it's not quite as awful as it may seem as the online raws were slightly green anyway.

My screenshot is from a direct capture of Fuji TV. It's more than likely the more accurate colour tone.

The stream is pretty bad. It's over bright and badly tinted. Been that way for ages now, but eh, can't ask for much from that kinda thing.

Side-note: compare that movie screenshot with the preview from next week. Mindblowing how much nicer Shida's designs are compared to Yamamuro's.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:32 pm

kinisking wrote:The only time any super saiyan looked horrible was in Yo son Goku and his friends return.
Early parts in Z when it first appeared was pretty nasty.

As for my other post might just be me but it did look a little bit different.

Also I agree the Goku in the NEP is definitely designed a bit better than the movie. Not mindblowing to me but I guess Ajay etc see things differently lol. Speaking of I wish you held off on that Tate episode until this week would have liked to see you dissect his work on Saturday.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Ajay » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:51 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Speaking of I wish you held off on that Tate episode until this week would have liked to see you dissect his work on Saturday.
Toei obliterated that video from existence. Waiting to hear how my counter-claim claiming fair use for documentary purposes turns out. Weird that they took issue with it and not any of my others. They were more than happy just monetising my previous videos and keeping them up. Probably because I used video with the show's audio at one point in this one, I guess. Oh well! If it isn't reinstated, then RIP that series.

Tate was also really heavily corrected this week, so outside of a few scenes where his work was left alone, a lot of it was filtered through Tsuji. Really sad to see cool Tate action scenes suddenly have Tsuji reaction shots. Really fucking sucks. I wanted to see those crazy faces from #38 return.

The same went for almost all of the shots featuring Super Saiyan Rosé. They were absolutely not letting anyone deviate from the model sheets for that character in this episode. Totally understand the reasoning, but I would have loved to have seen Tate's Rosé. Not happening, it seems!

So yeah, even if I had waited, there wouldn't have been a whole lot to talk about. He played with perspective a lot, which was cool, but that's about it.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:30 pm

Ahh fair enough but I think some of his faces did make it I think I caught a glimpse when Vegeta was falling down sort of reminded me of episode 5. I think what you said also probably explains why the episode wasn't as hated on from from others.

And that really sucks about the video man you put a lot off effort on that but not at all surprising Toei can be so bi polar sometimes. Such a weird company it's so hard to understand them sometimeas like for eg with OP film gold they're releasing it theatrically subbed WW yet unlike "F" they're not allowing it to be dubbed yet. You've got Super clips all over YT yet they have an issue with your video.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Ajay » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:58 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Ahh fair enough but I think some of his faces did make it I think I caught a glimpse when Vegeta was falling down sort of reminded me of episode 5. I think what you said also probably explains why the episode wasn't as hated on from from others.
Don't get me wrong, he had a huge presence on the episode and you can absolutely see his work, it's just that it bugs me you can see where stuff has been over-refined. I like Tsuji's style, but I want to see Tate.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by nite_jay » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:06 pm

That imgur album reminded me to ask, does anyone have a gif of when Goku threw some ki blasts at Black and Black swipes them away with the cool zoom effect?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by ArchedThunder » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:16 pm

nite_jay wrote:That imgur album reminded me to ask, does anyone have a gif of when Goku threw some ki blasts at Black and Black swipes them away with the cool zoom effect?
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This bit of action ended too early, kinda bothers me. I mean Goku is going in for a kick and then it just cuts to Trunks.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by nite_jay » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:22 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
nite_jay wrote:That imgur album reminded me to ask, does anyone have a gif of when Goku threw some ki blasts at Black and Black swipes them away with the cool zoom effect?
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This bit of action ended too early, kinda bothers me. I mean Goku is going in for a kick and then it just cuts to Trunks.
Same. At first I thought it was stream lag, but then when I saw it in HD I was slightly dissappointed.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Avok » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:37 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Horrible? Since when? :o
I just don't like the blue hair -or any other weird-colored one-.
kinisking wrote:The only time any super saiyan looked horrible was in Yo son Goku and his friends return.
The auras are top notch, but yeah, the hair is too yellow.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Early parts in Z when it first appeared was pretty nasty.
The shape or the color?
I don't like the shape they used in the Frieza fight, but the color is spot on.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by BakaManiaHD » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:37 pm

Just wanted to know, how many time Toei Animation had to produce the Future Trunks special in the Fukkatsu No F movie?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by nite_jay » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:49 pm

Here's my quick fix version to let it loop better.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:50 pm

nite_jay wrote:Here's my quick fix version to let it loop better.

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Woah! Great job!
The auras are top notch, but yeah, the hair is too yellow.
Yeah! Don't know how they thought that was a good idea...
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by cuartas » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:12 pm

This is the worst shot I have seen of black in this arc

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Ajay » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:14 pm

cuartas wrote:This is the worst shot I have seen of black in this arc
While I found it to be one of my favourites.

You don't like Tate much though, do you? So I guess that explains it!

I'm not particularly fond of Manabe's style, so I wasn't really feeling the styles found in the first half of this episode.
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