Important Questions about Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan Blue

[Steven Bloodriver]

Would the boost granted by the initial unlocking of the Super Saiyan transformation change if it's user already has power rivaling that of even Super Janemba in base form? On another note, how powerful would the Super Saiyan Blue transformation be if it was just recently unlocked by a Saiyan with power close to Ultimate Gohan?

[Anime Kitten]

1. Super Saiyan has a 50x power boost all the time to my knowledge. It just boosts the user's power by 50.
2. Incomprehensibly powerful.

[MadSaiyantist]

Super Saiyan is always a 50x boost. It's the most commonly accepted multiplier in the series.

Personally my head canon puts SsjG (Red) at an addition of power rather than a multiplier otherwise someone like Ultimate Gohan going through the ritual would be way off the spectrum.

As for SsjB, I personally think the Goku path (absorbing SsjG power) puts his base form way above that of Ultimate Gohan. From there, the power is multiplied in SsjB.

Going down Vegeta's path (training with Whis) would also place his base form above that of Ultimate Gohan. It would put his base in the realm of Goku "Post God Form". Then his power is multiplied in SsjBlue.

This puts Goku and Vegeta on the same level despite taking different routes and also requires someone like Gohan to reach a certain level of power before turning into a SsjB. Of course this is all just headcanon.

[hellobooboo14]

Would the boost granted by the initial unlocking of the Super Saiyan transformation change if it's user already has power rivaling that of even Super Janemba in base form? On another note, how powerful would the Super Saiyan Blue transformation be if it was just recently unlocked by a Saiyan with power close to Ultimate Gohan?

1. According to SEG, Super Saiyan multiplier is 50x.

Only, at the time, it was considered that his strength would increase 50-fold when he became a Super Saiyan, but that was a bit of an exaggeration. My feeling as the creator is that, while drawing it, I felt that it was about a 10-fold change from what it was up to that point.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... agon-ball/


2. Very powerful.


I have question, we saw Super Saiyan God (Red) Goku heal from a wound (from Beerus), but Vegeta as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan didn't heal from a wound (from Goku Black).

What do you think is the reason? Toei forgot or do you think it had something to do with the two forms?

[Helios518]

I have question, we saw Super Saiyan God (Red) Goku heal from a wound (from Beerus), but Vegeta as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan didn't heal from a wound (from Goku Black).

What do you think is the reason? Toei forgot or do you think it had something to do with the two forms?

In-Universe? Vegeta went out of SSB almost immediately because it was a worse injury than the SSJG one so he couldn't have time to regenerate the wound.

Out of Universe? Toei forgot,doesn't care,hand waved it,etc, This is what I rather believe actually happened.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I have question, we saw Super Saiyan God (Red) Goku heal from a wound (from Beerus), but Vegeta as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan didn't heal from a wound (from Goku Black).

What do you think is the reason? Toei forgot or do you think it had something to do with the two forms?

In-Universe? Vegeta went out of SSB almost immediately because it was a worse injury than the SSJG one so he couldn't have time to regenerate the wound.

Out of Universe? Toei forgot,doesn't care,hand waved it,etc, This is what I rather believe actually happened.

That's a very good inverse explanation actually. Like we can assume that SSG stays permanently for it's time limit essentially that's like the Saiyans temporary base form until the time limit runs out.

Out verse yeah Toriyama likely never gave a shit about the retellings and was working off his movies.