"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:53 pm

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What are you talking about? My dad plays the FIFA games. :P

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Post by DBS916 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:55 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Still holding out on my original prediction FTrunks sacrifices himself to defeat Black/Zamasu. And it will be the most emotional Dragon Ball episode ever.
I can imagine Future Trunks sacrificing his life in order to save mankind from becoming extinct. However, I doubt the writers will do that because they're pointing to Mai and Trunks getting together, and Trunks couldn't do that if he's dead after all. Still that would be a great way to showcase Trunks bravery and selfless nature for others.

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Post by SaiyanZ » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:59 pm

I wonder if we'll get any Toriyama art work for SSj Rose. If not, I have to wonder if he made it (like with future Mai)...
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Post by kinisking » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:00 pm

SaiyanZ wrote:I wonder if we'll get any Toriyama art work for SSj Rose. If not, I have to wonder if he made it (like with future Mai)...
What? Didn't he have a design for future mai?
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Post by kinisking » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:01 pm

Noah wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Still holding out on my original prediction FTrunks sacrifices himself to defeat Black/Zamasu. And it will be the most emotional Dragon Ball episode ever.
Is not gonna happen as said before Super has no guts for something like that :lol:
Yup... just Super. It's not like everyone from Z stayed alive or anything.
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Post by Sodhi » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:08 pm

We do have a design for future mai :)
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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:15 pm

Sodhi wrote:We do have a design for future mai :)
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That's Yamamuro, not Toriyama.

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Post by SaiyanZ » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:23 pm

Yea, I was asking about Toriyama art for her. He even did minor characters like Shisami for the Freeza movie.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:46 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote: But we know that unlike Toyotaro, Toei also makes changes to Toriyama's outline. So, it is bound that there are gonna be things from Toriyama in the manga that didn't make it to the anime, which is why I said that we can't know if SSG in the Universe 6 & Future Trunks arcs are Toyotaro's or Toriyama's ideas.
Toyotaro likely makes changes as well. Toriyama said he wanted Toyotaro to start implementing his own ideas and then we suddenly started to see the manga diverge from the anime more drastically. If Goku going regular God in the tournament was part of Toriyama's outline it probably would have been in the show, if only for merchandising purposes.
Still pure speculation.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:49 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Still pure speculation.
But you say that "We know" when we actually don't.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:50 pm

Bullza wrote:Oh I see. Did that Tomioka guy step in for Koyama because he hasn't done one for a long time.
Probably not. Koyama Makoto hasn't written for any series in a while, but in general Tomioka Atsuhiro is a much faster writer than Koyama, so I imagine he was simply brought on out of necessity.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:54 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Still pure speculation.
But you say that "We know" when we actually don't.
No, I just say "we don't know". We don't know if the Super Saiyan God reappearance is Toyotaro's or Toriyama's idea. We can't know based on what we know.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:52 pm

Smilodon wrote:SPOILER...The next 10 episodes ( I really don't know and I think it's fake, but...):

[spoiler]57 : The Immortal God, Sasa Zamasu.
無敵の神ササ

58 : The death of Goku and Vegeta.
悟空とベジータの死

59 : Desperation! Trunks back to the past again!
絶望!トランクス過去に戻って再び!

60: Help the sixth universe, called New Warriors!!
新戦士と呼ばれる、第六宇宙を助けて!

61 : New generation Traning
新世代のトレーニング

62 : The apocalyptic future sasasa Zamasu and Black.
とブラック 終末論的な未来

63 : The secret of Namek book ?
ブックの秘密? !

64: Traveling to the distant past, in search of the Legendary Super Saiyan
伝説の超サイヤ人の検索では、遠い過去に旅行!

65: The man with a scar ?!
傷跡を持つ男? !

66 : The largest potential of the universe 6 and 7 together.
6と7一緒に宇宙の最大の潜在的な。

For the first time 10 titles at once!

Sources:

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/
http://vjump.shueisha.co.jp/[/spoiler]
Just gonna give my opinions on these fake titles...

Even though some of it sounds rushed, overall if this were real I would love it. New generation training? Namekian book of legends? Sounds amazing! If only Super actually cared about it's cast, this could be a reality, but the only character besides Goku or Vegeta I can see becoming relevant again right now is Future Trunks. At least we have him I guess.

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Post by Kagari » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:40 am

Have these been posted yet? Dragon Ball Super 2017 calendar preview: http://eshop.fujitv.co.jp/product/item/20631

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Post by Grimlock » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:44 am

Kagari wrote:Have these been posted yet? Dragon Ball Super 2017 calendar preview: http://eshop.fujitv.co.jp/product/item/20631
Nice. They even remembered King Vegeta for Vegeta's calendar (but missed Tarble), and Bardock and Raditz for Goku's calendar (but missed Gine).

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Post by Sonicjamareiz » Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:25 am

Grimlock wrote:
Kagari wrote:Have these been posted yet? Dragon Ball Super 2017 calendar preview: http://eshop.fujitv.co.jp/product/item/20631
Nice. They even remembered King Vegeta for Vegeta's calendar (but missed Tarble), and Bardock and Raditz for Goku's calendar (but missed Gine).
I swear they make Brolys hair geener every time they draw him. :?
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Post by sailorspazz » Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:49 am

Some of the choices for mixing images from different eras are odd, the first page, especially: here's the original Dragon Ball gang! And also the most recent villain, Black! And Broli! And Hit...and Oob...and Burdock & Raditz...and Yajirobe & Karin. Aaaand, why not Beerus, too? Like, Jesus, what's the theme supposed to be here?! :lol:

I think the final page is nice, at least...there's the elder Kaioushin giving a pervy look to Vados...and Kamesennin doing the same to #18 :P (dirty old men, all of them!) But also cute romantic stuff like Gohan and Videl holding hands, and Bulma looking dreamily at her man.
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Post by Matthanor » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:28 am

Smilodon wrote:SPOILER...The next 10 episodes ( I really don't know and I think it's fake, but...):

[spoiler]57 : The Immortal God, Sasa Zamasu.
無敵の神ササ

58 : The death of Goku and Vegeta.
悟空とベジータの死

59 : Desperation! Trunks back to the past again!
絶望!トランクス過去に戻って再び!

60: Help the sixth universe, called New Warriors!!
新戦士と呼ばれる、第六宇宙を助けて!

61 : New generation Traning
新世代のトレーニング

62 : The apocalyptic future sasasa Zamasu and Black.
とブラック 終末論的な未来

63 : The secret of Namek book ?
ブックの秘密? !

64: Traveling to the distant past, in search of the Legendary Super Saiyan
伝説の超サイヤ人の検索では、遠い過去に旅行!

65: The man with a scar ?!
傷跡を持つ男? !

66 : The largest potential of the universe 6 and 7 together.
6と7一緒に宇宙の最大の潜在的な。

For the first time 10 titles at once!

Sources:

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/
http://vjump.shueisha.co.jp/[/spoiler]
Seems pretty f***d to me as there is no longer narrative arcs or logic in these titles. And Gokû and Vegeta dead, we've been there before and we know they're never dead.
Legendary super saiyan ? another fan theory for Broly ??

FAKE FAKE FAKE

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Post by alakazam^ » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:02 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Still pure speculation.
But you say that "We know" when we actually don't.
No, I just say "we don't know". We don't know if the Super Saiyan God reappearance is Toyotaro's or Toriyama's idea. We can't know based on what we know.
It's true but I'd argue that, since Toriyama wanted to step down and Toei had to convince him to continue, Toei is following Toriyama's plot more faithfuly in the Trunks arc and they still didn't show God there.

Anyway, I think it's also possible Toei and Toyotarou regularly meet to discuss what both include and in what way so as to make both mediums relevant to the fans.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:24 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Still pure speculation.
But you say that "We know" when we actually don't.
No, I just say "we don't know". We don't know if the Super Saiyan God reappearance is Toyotaro's or Toriyama's idea. We can't know based on what we know.
Leaning towards Toyotaro, because SSG appeared in "F" manga too but not final product. Toyotaro seems to love that form.

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