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hellobooboo14
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by hellobooboo14 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:33 pm
I know DBNA is fan made, created by Malik Torihane. But did Toriyama/Toei take inspiration from DBNA?
http://dragonballfanon.wikia.com/wiki/T ... rds_(DBNA)
The Aspect Lords would remain in the Center of Existence on Planet Kaishin, living in a floating temple high above the Planet's surface (much like the Palace of Kami), and entrusted the governing of the Multiverse to the high being known as Zen'o, who acts as the Aspect Lords' representitive.
This seems to indicate two things; 1. Toriyama/Toei took inspiration from DBNA like how they did with DBM (Dragonball Multiverse), 2. DBNA (Malik Torihane) based his characters origins (
specifically talking Zeno) off what Toriyama/Toei did with super.
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by ryou766 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:35 pm
Toriyama took inspiration from dbm? What?
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by Doctor. » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:42 pm
A Multiverse isn't an original concept in fiction and Dragon Ball has always upgraded the God hierarchy as it went on.
Multiverse is poopular but the concept is so popular it seems unlikely that Toriyama took inspiration from it. And I doubt Toei and Toriyama are even aware that New Age exists, no offense to Malik.
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hellobooboo14
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by hellobooboo14 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:53 pm
Doctor. wrote:A Multiverse isn't an original concept in fiction and Dragon Ball has always upgraded the God hierarchy as it went on.
Multiverse is poopular but the concept is so popular it seems unlikely that Toriyama took inspiration from it. And I doubt Toei and Toriyama are even aware that New Age exists, no offense to Malik.
So you're saying DBNA most likely took inspirations from Super? Because in super, Zeno is King of Everything, in DBNA, Zeno represents the Aspect Lords.
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by TheMikado » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:54 pm
Considering the entire concept of Gods of Destruction can from Toei I suppose it's possible one of the writers at Toei saw this and went in that direction
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by Doctor. » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:58 pm
hellobooboo14 wrote:Doctor. wrote:A Multiverse isn't an original concept in fiction and Dragon Ball has always upgraded the God hierarchy as it went on.
Multiverse is poopular but the concept is so popular it seems unlikely that Toriyama took inspiration from it. And I doubt Toei and Toriyama are even aware that New Age exists, no offense to Malik.
So you're saying DBNA most likely took inspirations from Super? Because in super, Zeno is King of Everything, in DBNA, Zeno represents the Aspect Lords.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's a coincidence at best, the two concepts aren't even that similar, in DBNA there are 4 Aspect Lords, in Super the Omni-King rules over everything alone.
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by Nejishiki » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:07 pm
I don't find it likely Japanese businessmen were viewing fan works from outside of their nation. They usually hire their own fan artists, such as Ooishi and Toyotaro. I'm sorry to say that strong evidence of a connection is heavily lacking.
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by Helios518 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:23 pm
Are you talking about how Omni-King is in DBNA? That's because Malik decided to put him after the announcement of him was made.
https://www.facebook.com/DBNewAge/posts/920637471367607
Edit: I accidentally quoted Mikado, It's fixed now.
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Helios518 on Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:30 pm, edited 5 times in total.
Why I use "Geran" instead of "Jiren"
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by hellobooboo14 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:25 pm
Helios518 wrote:TheMikado wrote:Considering the entire concept of Gods of Destruction can from Toei I suppose it's possible one of the writers at Toei saw this and went in that direction
Are you talking about how Omni-King is in DBNA? That's because Malik decided to put him the announcement of him.
https://www.facebook.com/DBNewAge/posts/920637471367607
Cool, found my answer, thanks.