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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:13 pm

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nite_jay wrote: Oh, thanks. I don't agree with that sentiment, though. DB is pretty timeless imo.
I have to agree. I never really thought it had any "dated-ness" to it. If that makes any sense.
I agree that the show can be a little slow, and not in a good way. I don't know if "dated" is the right word. I do vastly prefer the comic version of the pre-Z era.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:10 pm

I like the Blue Water dub of GT over Funimation's dub of GT.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:29 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I like the Blue Water dub of GT over Funimation's dub of GT.
I thought both were pretty meh.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by samuo2 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:14 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
nite_jay wrote: What does this mean?
I think he meant out-dated. It says English isn't his native language in his bio so he probably worded it wrong on accident.
Yes that's it! Thanks a lot for corrected me^^

I didn't express myself correctly, when I say "DBZ is more out-dated" I talk especially about the animation. The whole of DB is more homogeneous than DBZ one, for me.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gligarman » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:46 pm

The one I get the most flack for is preferring the Japanese version of the anime over Funimation's English dub. I personally think it's a matter of preference. In my case, like any foreign movie or series I prefer the authenticity of it's original language.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:13 pm

Gligarman wrote:The one I get the most flack for is preferring the Japanese version of the anime over Funimation's English dub. I personally think it's a matter of preference. In my case, like any foreign movie or series I prefer the authenticity of it's original language.
That's not really an unpopular opinion around here. I generally prefer English dubs, since that's the language I speak, but I can't say I'm a particularly huge fan of Funimation's dub of Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z. Kai's dub is pretty good, though.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:59 am

Gligarman wrote:The one I get the most flack for is preferring the Japanese version of the anime over Funimation's English dub. I personally think it's a matter of preference. In my case, like any foreign movie or series I prefer the authenticity of it's original language.
That's most of us around here, not because of the authenticity of the original language, but because the English version of Z was so cringey, and some (including myself) have problems with DB Kai.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:21 pm

A lot of people on the web seem to put Dub>Sub for DBZ when it used not to be always like that. I notice since 2007, there was more 1999-2003 dub fans and that the old sub fandom from the 90's and early 2000's where gone by then. I think most of the younger fans that watch DBZ where finally old enough to go on web forums and social media around that time compare to the past.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:58 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Gligarman wrote:The one I get the most flack for is preferring the Japanese version of the anime over Funimation's English dub. I personally think it's a matter of preference. In my case, like any foreign movie or series I prefer the authenticity of it's original language.
That's most of us around here, not because of the authenticity of the original language, but because the English version of Z was so cringey, and some (including myself) have problems with DB Kai.
What's your problem with DB kai?

And on the topic of DBZ's dub, I rewatched a few pieces here and there and can't believe how cringe worthy it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaLoTA6yICc. FFS.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:23 pm

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Gligarman wrote:The one I get the most flack for is preferring the Japanese version of the anime over Funimation's English dub. I personally think it's a matter of preference. In my case, like any foreign movie or series I prefer the authenticity of it's original language.
That's most of us around here, not because of the authenticity of the original language, but because the English version of Z was so cringey, and some (including myself) have problems with DB Kai.
What's your problem with DB kai?

And on the topic of DBZ's dub, I rewatched a few pieces here and there and can't believe how cringe worthy it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaLoTA6yICc. FFS.
Lots of small nitpicks, but here are the few on the top of my head:

- The footage for the first part of Kai, in general, looks bad. As a side effect of heavy grain removal, the image as a whole is blurred. Granted, they didn't try to "fix" it like Funimation, so they get props for that. The digitally corrected and re-colored scenes stick out like a sore thumb.
- The remastering in Kai's Boo Arc is only a notch or two above Funimation's Blu-ray Season Sets.
- Many fantastic filler episodes were cut.
- Some of the best drawn episodes were merged with meh looking, and even bad looking episodes.
- The music (both Yamamoto and Kikuchi scores) are inferior to Z's Kikuchi.
- In the Japanese, Nozawa's performance is lackluster compared to when she was in her prime.
- In the English, Sabat's voices bleed into one another (Sabat's voicing so many characters is a problem with Funi's dub in general).

If I thought hard, I could probably come up with more, but I think this is a pretty good summary.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:38 pm

Sabat's voices don't bleed into one another. They sound distinct. While you can tell he's voicing multiple characters, they are definitely different voices. His Piccolo is just his voice pitched about an octave lower, his Vegeta has a little rasp to it, and Yamcha is more or less his normal voice
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:59 pm

ABED wrote:Sabat's voices don't bleed into one another. They sound distinct. While you can tell he's voicing multiple characters, they are definitely different voices. His Piccolo is just his voice pitched about an octave lower, his Vegeta has a little rasp to it, and Yamcha is more or less his normal voice
I'm not saying they're all the same, I'm saying that there are lines where he'll mistakenly slip into the wrong voice.
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Post by ABED » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:06 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
ABED wrote:Sabat's voices don't bleed into one another. They sound distinct. While you can tell he's voicing multiple characters, they are definitely different voices. His Piccolo is just his voice pitched about an octave lower, his Vegeta has a little rasp to it, and Yamcha is more or less his normal voice
I'm not saying they're all the same, I'm saying that there are lines where he'll mistakenly slip into the wrong voice.
I can easily tell they are the same actor, but I don't recall him slipping and how the hell does anyone slip into another voice by mistake?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:10 pm

ABED wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
ABED wrote:Sabat's voices don't bleed into one another. They sound distinct. While you can tell he's voicing multiple characters, they are definitely different voices. His Piccolo is just his voice pitched about an octave lower, his Vegeta has a little rasp to it, and Yamcha is more or less his normal voice
I'm not saying they're all the same, I'm saying that there are lines where he'll mistakenly slip into the wrong voice.
I can easily tell they are the same actor, but I don't recall him slipping and how the hell does anyone slip into another voice by mistake?
I can't think of one example in particular, but I don't hate the dub anyway. Disregarding that, my other complaints still stand.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:23 pm

ABED wrote:Yamcha is more or less his normal voice
I thought Piccolo was closer to his normal voice, at least in that podcast right around Battle of Gods' release.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by nickzambuto » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:50 pm

Yeah I think Piccolo is closest to his normal voice, just being even deeper. His Yamcha is extremely distinct, and even though I maintain Chris Sabat is one of the most talented voice actors around, his Yamcha definitely falls on its face. He makes Yamcha sound like the pathetic jobber the memes paint him as. But the Japanese guy makes Yamcha one of the coolest characters in the show.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:01 pm

But that wasnt Toriyama's intent so...

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by nickzambuto » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:11 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:But that wasnt Toriyama's intent so...

Ok I kid, I kid. I love Furuya-san.
What wasn't Toriyama's intent?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

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nickzambuto wrote:
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:But that wasnt Toriyama's intent so...

Ok I kid, I kid. I love Furuya-san.
What wasn't Toriyama's intent?
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nickzambuto wrote:But the Japanese guy makes Yamcha one of the coolest characters in the show.

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Post by nickzambuto » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:22 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:But that wasnt Toriyama's intent so...

Ok I kid, I kid. I love Furuya-san.
What wasn't Toriyama's intent?
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nickzambuto wrote:But the Japanese guy makes Yamcha one of the coolest characters in the show.
Yamcha was the "cool guy" of the original cast. That's why he had the jobber role, because beating up a pansy isn't impressive. Beating up the designated cool guy, is. I doubt Toriyama created this character saying "I think it would be a good idea to make him pathetic and weak." Instead he was the first person to beat up Goku, had a stylish design and badass lines, a confident attitude, and Oolong spoke of him as a deadly and notorious (albeit not legendary) bandit.

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