"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Grimlock]

Just like Gohan, Kibito gives Trunks Kaioshins' clothes, Trunks succeeds in removing Z Sword from the rock, Kaioshin of East tests the Z sword by throwing the Katchin.

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[Nejishiki]

It's hard to comment without the full context, but I'll have to assume he breaks it as he doesn't have it now. I'm also surprised the flashback is getting that many pages. I predicted a single panel recounting the events as Cell once did, only with a visual aid. It must be important to the story, otherwise the anime's brief recount gave us what we needed in less time. Again, I can't really judge it properly without the full context.

[Grimlock]

There are more pages, but you know...

But I can tell you that Future Dabura kills Future Kibito the same way that happened in the present timeline. Future Babidi acts mercilessly with Future Kaioshin of East.

[ryou766]

Thank you so much for the insight, Toyotaro. I don't mind these flashbacks.

[Grimlock]

Even Future Majin Pui Pui and Future Yakon make an appearance.

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[Nejishiki]

There are more pages, but you know...

I know. I'm not making a complaint, only observations. I find it interesting. Toyotaro doesn't usually elaborate on something unless he feels it's necessary. It's why I'm pondering what new details will be gathered from the full chapter.

[Grimlock]

"未来の全12の宇宙の界王神&破壊神は全滅したらしい…"

I think we have our confirmation (or we already had it?) that Goku Black killed all Kaioshins (and consequently all Hakaishins) in the future. But what about Kaios? Think they aren't a nuisance, I guess.

[OLKv3]

I knew Toyo would have Trunks use the Z sword

I have to say, it's annoying how this could have also been done in the anime. Instead we had a rehash of the History of Trunks flashback for some reason.

[ryou766]

"未来の全12の宇宙の界王神&破壊神は全滅したらしい…"

I think we have our confirmation (or we already had it?) that Goku Black killed all Kaioshins (and consequently all Hakaishins) in the future. But what about Kaios? Think they aren't a nuisance, I guess.

Wait, so it was Black's doing? Didn't the East Kaioshin succumb to his wounds? I'm confused.

[Grimlock]

Wait, so it was Black's doing? Didn't the East Kaioshin succumb to his wounds? I'm confused.

We just see Future Babidi attacking Future Kaioshin of East, from the images I have, we can't see his death, so just wait.

Oh, there's more: Future Trunks attacks Future Dabura using Z-Sword, Dabura then spits and the Z-sword turns into stone, when Dabura attacks using his own sword, Trunks drops the Z-Sword and it breaks after hitting the ground, killing Old Kai in the process I assume (since it was turned into stone).

[OLKv3]

Wait, so it was Black's doing? Didn't the East Kaioshin succumb to his wounds? I'm confused.

We just see Future Babidi attacking Future Kaioshin of East, from the images I have, we can't see his death, so just wait.

Oh, there's more: Future Trunks attacks Future Dabura using Z-Sword, Dabura then spits and the Z-sword turns into stone, when Dabura attacks using his own sword, Trunks drops the Z-Sword and it breaks after hitting the ground, killing Old Kai in the process I assume (since it was turned into stone).

Why would that kill Old Kai? That part sounds silly, as silly as the whole SSB handicap

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Wait, so it was Black's doing? Didn't the East Kaioshin succumb to his wounds? I'm confused.

We just see Future Babidi attacking Future Kaioshin of East, from the images I have, we can't see his death, so just wait.

Oh, there's more: Future Trunks attacks Future Dabura using Z-Sword, Dabura then spits and the Z-sword turns into stone, when Dabura attacks using his own sword, Trunks drops the Z-Sword and it breaks after hitting the ground, killing Old Kai in the process I assume (since it was turned into stone).

Why would that kill Old Kai? That part sounds silly, as silly as the whole SSB handicap

What do you mean? The sword that he was bound to turned to stone. In no way is that ridiculous.

[OLKv3]

It shouldn't matter if it's stone or not, the moment it breaks he should be freed. I don't see how it being stone suddenly stops his lifeforce.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It shouldn't matter if it's stone or not, the moment it breaks he should be freed. I don't see how it being stone suddenly stops his lifeforce.

As was established... oh, right! That was never established! So your criticism is empty.

[OLKv3]

It shouldn't matter if it's stone or not, the moment it breaks he should be freed. I don't see how it being stone suddenly stops his lifeforce.

As was established... oh, right! That was never established! So your criticism is empty.

It was established. He was trapped INSIDE the Z-Sword, he wasn't turned into it. And I don't know where the hostile attitude is coming from, just because I dare not like a part of this issue. Calm it down.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It shouldn't matter if it's stone or not, the moment it breaks he should be freed. I don't see how it being stone suddenly stops his lifeforce.

As was established... oh, right! That was never established! So your criticism is empty.

It was established. He was trapped INSIDE the Z-Sword, he wasn't turned into it. And I don't know where the hostile attitude is coming from, just because I dare not like a part of this issue. Calm it down.

It's not hostility, it's called a sarcastic tone.

If he was literally inside the sword, all the more reason that he would be turned to stone along with it.

[TheMikado]

It shouldn't matter if it's stone or not, the moment it breaks he should be freed. I don't see how it being stone suddenly stops his lifeforce.

As was established... oh, right! That was never established! So your criticism is empty.

It was established. He was trapped INSIDE the Z-Sword, he wasn't turned into it. And I don't know where the hostile attitude is coming from, just because I dare not like a part of this issue. Calm it down.

So if it was melted in a pit of lava would he be free or dead?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

As was established... oh, right! That was never established! So your criticism is empty.

It was established. He was trapped INSIDE the Z-Sword, he wasn't turned into it. And I don't know where the hostile attitude is coming from, just because I dare not like a part of this issue. Calm it down.

So if it was melted in a pit of lava would he be free or dead?

He'd be just fine, according to this guy.

[TheMikado]

Also I can't be the only one loving Trunks in Kaioshin garb. This alone makes the manga worth it.

[OLKv3]

It was established. He was trapped INSIDE the Z-Sword, he wasn't turned into it. And I don't know where the hostile attitude is coming from, just because I dare not like a part of this issue. Calm it down.

So if it was melted in a pit of lava would he be free or dead?

He'd be just fine, according to this guy.

How is that even the same thing? What a terrible argument. If he popped out of the sword in a pit of lava, he'd be dead since he'd probably pop out suddenly in lava. But here, the sword is turned to stone, and then broken. He should still pop out since the sword was broken

Nothing in DBZ said his life was tethered to the condition of the sword. You're acting like I'm saying something ridiculous as if this was fact when it never was. You're assuming just like I'm assuming, except now you're making up ridiculous arguments that were never stated

The only thing we know from DBZ is that he was sealed inside the sword, and freed when it was broken.