Interesting Video (Dub Comparison)

Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi · Post by **Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:16 pm

I don't really care for the Ocean version. For me, its Japanese, FUNI or nothing.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:26 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:Horikawa is pretty awesome. He actually plays the character like it isn't a bad caricature/b-rate villain of some sort.

-Corey

You know what? This is quoted for truth, even though we're discussing the dub comparison. The English voice actors do make him sound villainous, but I must say once more that Drummond's voice did seem to adapt well to the change in character.

dasmith · Post by **dasmith** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:31 pm

This clip is pretty interesting to me because I haven't seen either dub version of that scene. First, I'll say the clip isn't totally legit, because there's a huge difference in the audio quality of the Ocean footage and the FUNi footage, like the FUNi footage came from a pretty crappy rip or something else happened to it.

Honestly, after having not seen either, I find both pretty distasteful. Once I discovered how awesome the Japanese version of the show was, I stopped watching the dub on TV sometime pre-Buu saga. Seeing this footage from the end of the series, it's just really disappointing to me to hear the same recycled Faulconer bgm in the FUNi dub and the Ocean bgm isn't any better.

To be on topic, I'll say that I while I do think the FUNi dub is better overall, Drummond will always be the English-speaking Vegeta that I remember from my days of watching the entire Saiyan saga several times through on Saturday mornings (and always getting my hopes up that this time through they would continue on to the new episodes (before I knew how TV worked)

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Also, I was particularly grossed out by the Ocean dub at 2:54 in the clip (where a few characters let out a yelp at Vegeta's transformation) -- usually I would just laugh and chalk it up to a bad dub, but it was too offensive to even do that. I was relieved to see that FUNi left that part silent at 7:35 in the clip.

Daizensushi-x · Post by **Daizensushi-x** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:44 pm

Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi wrote:I don't really care for the Ocean version. For me, its Japanese, FUNI or nothing.

Exactly.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:59 pm

I for one will admit the Ocean version is very good, but still, FUNimation's dub is what I came to love the series with. Thanks to the kinda crappy dialogue and bad script, I prefer the original Japanese over even that, nowadays. But FUNi's dub still left an impression.

Put simply, when I imagine a conversation between Goku and Vegeta, it's Monsieurs Schemmel's and Sabat's voices I'm hearing in my head. 'Nuff said.

Maphisto86 · Post by **Maphisto86** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:07 am

Duo wrote:He plays Vegeta like a constipated german she-male.

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That must have been a hell of an experience hearing what that sounds like!

SSj Kaboom wrote: Put simply, when I imagine a conversation between Goku and Vegeta, it's Monsieurs Schemmel's and Sabat's voices I'm hearing in my head. 'Nuff said.

Yeah I suffer from the same "problem". Still I too love the Japanese cast and slowly the "damage" is being undone. However I still like the current dub cast (well most of them). I cannot justify that in any objective way because it simply comes down to opinion. I will state for the record though that the original cast is superior in every way according to my opinion (and it seems the majority here).

As for Drummond's portryal of Vegeta... he's alright.

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:46 am

Japanese version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbNzG0Xx3FA

Better, as always.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:53 am

I've never liked anything Drummond has done. I have to give credit to Sabat. He always seems to give 100%. Playing Budokai TenkacHI 2, he was the only voice actor, who didn't act like he was mailing it in.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:33 am

I still prefer Sonny Strait's Krillin to Terry Klaasen's. And I'm not too fond of Miroku Goku. Still like Mr. Drummond's Seasons 1-2 Vegeta voice and his Yajirobe. But in that clip, he doesn't sound so good. Kind of like how the English Sailor Moon cast wasn't directed very well in the movies.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:49 am

Victator Supreme wrote:I've never liked anything Drummond has done.

You didn't like his Zechs Marquise?

-Corey

Jodaku · Post by **Jodaku** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:48 pm

I'm still fond of my ol' Ocean dub (Both the Funi/Saban and UK/Canadian versions), Brain Drummond is still the man for me (the clip posted is an example why), and Brad Swaile was simply awesome as Teen Gohan and of course there are the other legends like Scott Mcneil, Ian Corlett, Saffron Henderson, and hell I still have a soft spot for Kirby Morrow' Goku (Watches Jerseymilk give me the evil eye ).

While I respect and enjoy the Japanese cast for their generally top-notch performances, and are undoubtly the best overall cast, I just have more affection for the Ocean cast.

With all that said, I'm more of a manga man, so I'm probably not as hung up on the voices as others.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:56 pm

Saiyan wrote:Japanese version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbNzG0Xx3FA

Better, as always.

I love that scene, it's just sad to me because it shows how different DBZ would have been with consistently high-quality animation.

-Corey

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:14 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote:I've never liked anything Drummond has done.
You didn't like his Zechs Marquise?

-Corey

I meant of stuff I have seen.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:34 am

Victator Supreme wrote:I meant of stuff I have seen.

With respect, what have you seen with him aside from DBZ?

-Corey

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:00 am

Maphisto86 wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote: Put simply, when I imagine a conversation between Goku and Vegeta, it's Monsieurs Schemmel's and Sabat's voices I'm hearing in my head. 'Nuff said.
Yeah I suffer from the same "problem". Still I too love the Japanese cast and slowly the "damage" is being undone.

"Problem?" "Damage?" I never said that. I don't mind associating their voices with the characters, even though I've come to watch the Japanese if given the choice. Only real reason for that is because the script is bad in the dub, not because I prefer one set of voice actors over another.

sharkdude0709 · Post by **sharkdude0709** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:12 pm

To be fair, would many of you guys understand the Japanese version without subtitles. I like the the Ocean Group, so I lean more to them, maybe because they dubbed Gundam Wing.

Maphisto86 · Post by **Maphisto86** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:54 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Maphisto86 wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote: Put simply, when I imagine a conversation between Goku and Vegeta, it's Monsieurs Schemmel's and Sabat's voices I'm hearing in my head. 'Nuff said.
Yeah I suffer from the same "problem". Still I too love the Japanese cast and slowly the "damage" is being undone.
"Problem?" "Damage?" I never said that. I don't mind associating their voices with the characters, even though I've come to watch the Japanese if given the choice. Only real reason for that is because the script is bad in the dub, not because I prefer one set of voice actors over another.

Heh I'm just kidding Sean!

Not directed at your comments...

As I sated many times before I too like the FUNI dub as well as the Japanese. Our opinions on the matter a pretty much the same. I despise how much editing was done with the FUNI dub but I like how the actors made most of the characters sound (there's a few I don't like) and I think they did a good job. Overall though I geuss I prefer the original ( it just makes sense).

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:14 pm

sharkdude0709 wrote:To be fair, would many of you guys understand the Japanese version without subtitles.

Fully? No, but I can discern a decent amount. Besides, a great deal of the impact of voice acting comes from emoting and from believability, things which transcend actual language barriers.

Horikawa sounds like an arrogant bastard with a hair-trigger, whereas Drummond (while enjoyable on other levels) can sound like a cartoony villian and Sabat sounds like he needs to ditch the Marlboro Reds.

-Corey

PrincessVegeta · Post by **PrincessVegeta** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:45 am

I always preffered Sabats Vegeta compared to Drummonds Vegeta. It's because he seemed to make him sound even more badass then before.

sharkdude0709 · Post by **sharkdude0709** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:18 pm

Even if many of you guys like Sabit's voice, the translations are way off. The Ocean group had better translations and voice actors. Drummond has very many good qualities as does Sabit. Also did anyone forget about Ian Corlett? His interpretation of goku is great and doesn't scream as bad as Schemmel.