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by TheMikado » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:41 am
Ok, a couple of points but first I want to say the manga is simply incredible. I haven't felt this way about the series in a long time. The pacing is fantastic and it goes the typical Z route of training-build up - still not good enough - win by the skin of your teeth. Love it, the tension in the Trunks fight, even though we already know the outcome is superb and I prefer this model versus the anime, which seems to try to get in as many "battles" and sparring as possible while skipping back story and sometime logic.
1) This seems to give a different origin story for Zamasu/Black. In this manga version Zamasu is aware of Goku because he was told about him via Kaioshin. Thus if present Zamasu became black or created Black, there would be no casual loop and thus no contradiction to Toriyama's idea of timelines.
2) Gowasu is already suspicious of Zamasu and I'm sure Kaioshin as well. It seems like the way it leads is that Beerus will ask the Kaioshin he is linked to, who in turn mentions one of his peers has a subordinate he is suspicious of. I like this much better than Beerus/Whis having knowledge or and able to link specifically to Zamasu, a subordinate Kai of another universe. It also makes them skipping over talking to that universe's God of Destruction make more sense and its primary an issue between Kaioshin and their subordinates.
3) Elder Kai link actually gets semi addressed. Nice. At least it attempts to close a plot hole.
4) Goku is much less of an @$$ and not making him be the cause of whatever Zamasu does is great.
5) Black is around back then! Awesome and makes Black appear much more methodical in his motives and execution.
6) Killing the Gods of Destruction means this guy is serious business, thus when we go into the next fights we recognize the stakes, and that Trunks being as awesome as he is, is once again the lone savior of the Future. Goku even acknowledges his life is tough.
7) No Future Trunks, Mai weirdness. Plus making callbacks to the fact that Mai actually should be pretty old.
8) Trunk's clothes are just excellent.
9) Power levels make sense and correlate to Buu saga, meaning in the manga Trunks was outclassed and survived by going SSJ2 after a death, much like making it to SSJ1. I think Vegeta and the kids are the only ones who didn't get new SSJ levels through a death. It's sad that the only way Trunks reaches these heights are by people dying...
10) The backstory, plots, and world feel excellent and full. There's no rush to get to the fights and we had a satisfying battle with real meaning and consequences to it. It's so jarring watching the fight here which should be much lower stakes, but they prepare so much and its still not enough. Then the anime Zamasu/Black fight where they do almost no prep, no sensu beans, and they still make it back without any real consequence... Anyway I LOVE LOVE LOVE the manga. Just excellently done so far from what I can tell...
Side note: This actually makes me angry in regards to the Super anime, seeing what just a little bit more thought and care could produce with similar storypoints. While I'm on that topic, the storyline is different enough that I can't imagine the outline was that detailed to how it got to certain points, particularly how Zamasu is introduced and aware of Goku. At this point we aren't sure if Black will even pop up into the present or not at all.
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TheMikado on Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
