Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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by Alruneia » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:59 pm
I need more Supreme Kai outfit Future Trunks (with or without the Z Sword). It looked fantastic on him.

I mean, if the outfit isn't as blue as Gohan's was. It'd clash with his hair colour, I think. Though I don't know what other colour it'd be...
I'm extremely happy Toyotarou really went into the "Future Buu saga" instead of just quickly explaining it and then leaving it behind. I am curious about the "every god is dead" tidbit, though. We'll have to wait and see just what that entails.
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by Chiki » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:03 pm
alakazam^ wrote:Chiki wrote:Um.. what? That makes no sense. A plot hole is something that is an inconsistency which goes against logic in the plot. The plot hole: why didn't Zeno intervene? In the manga, this exists. In the anime, not yet, maybe never. It's that simple.
It doesn't have to be a plothole, depends on how they explain it. Zen'ou also didn't intervene during the 39-year "nap" Beers had.
Maybe Zeno is willing to forgive Beerus's naps. But he knew Beerus was awake and not doing his job, maybe that's why he intervened.
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by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:04 pm
Alruneia wrote:I need more Supreme Kai outfit Future Trunks (with or without the Z Sword). It looked fantastic on him.

I mean, if the outfit isn't as blue as Gohan's was. It'd clash with his hair colour, I think. Though I don't know what other colour it'd be...
I'm extremely happy Toyotarou really went into the "Future Buu saga" instead of just quickly explaining it and then leaving it behind. I am curious about the "every god is dead" tidbit, though. We'll have to wait and see just what that entails.
I'd rather see Trunks in North Kaio's outfit. (A skinnier size, of course)
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by Pannaliciour » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:07 pm
So Trunks turns ssj2 when kibito dies but did not turn ssj 1 when gohan died (manga)
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by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:10 pm
Pannaliciour wrote:So Trunks turns ssj2 when kibito dies but did not turn ssj 1 when gohan died (manga)
This is head-canon, so don't take my word, but I'm fairly sure you have to master Super Saiyan to become SS2. It seems plausible, since everyone who reached the transformation knew of, and had great praise for, the mastered SS state.
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by kinisking » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:11 pm
TheMikado wrote:Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Noah wrote:
Because as a matter of fact: the manga is better written than the anime (power related, important details and such), I really would like if the anime followed the same path
Oh yeah, I could add that too:
Sure, the manga is better... until it isn't, until it gets so far behind that it has to hastily cram a dozen events into one chapter. If it were on a different schedule, I'd agree that the manga is better, but I'd still want the show to deviate.
Even when taking that into account the manga still seems to be much more coherently written. I can deal with the rushed parts as long as the story remains coherent.
What was more coherent about the manga than in the anime, regarding this chapter?
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by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:16 pm
kinisking wrote:TheMikado wrote:Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Sure, the manga is better... until it isn't, until it gets so far behind that it has to hastily cram a dozen events into one chapter. If it were on a different schedule, I'd agree that the manga is better, but I'd still want the show to deviate.
Even when taking that into account the manga still seems to be much more coherently written. I can deal with the rushed parts as long as the story remains coherent.
What was more coherent about the manga than in the anime, regarding this chapter?
I don't think that's the right word, better to say that it's "well-jointed". So far, Toyotaro's Trunks Arc has a much better flow.
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by Nejishiki » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:18 pm
LightBing wrote:Another few interesting lines from this chapter:
Zamasu: “I really admire you two. I heard how you handled Majin Boo a few years ago.”
Kaioshin: “No, we didn’t do it alone. And besides, actions like that are supposed to be a God of Destruction’s role.”
Kibito: “But our universe’s God of Destruction is always sleeping, so…”
It seems Beerus should have handled Boo and did nothing in both times Boo was active, because he's such a sleepy kitty...

It seems as if somebody listened to me when I suggested Kaioshin and Hakaishin should work together. The only difference is that the former needs permission! As I said long ago, it makes sense. The Kaioshin observe and while the Hakaishin destroy indiscriminately, it's great for balance to communicate special requests of certain threats. They hardly meet each other outside of necessity due to not getting along, but I think events forcing cooperation should have procedure. Universe 6 and Universe 7 may be the only set of universes where their gods are so disorganized.

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by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:22 pm
Nejishiki wrote:LightBing wrote:Another few interesting lines from this chapter:
Zamasu: “I really admire you two. I heard how you handled Majin Boo a few years ago.”
Kaioshin: “No, we didn’t do it alone. And besides, actions like that are supposed to be a God of Destruction’s role.”
Kibito: “But our universe’s God of Destruction is always sleeping, so…”
It seems Beerus should have handled Boo and did nothing in both times Boo was active, because he's such a sleepy kitty...

It seems as if somebody listened to me when I suggested Kaioshin and Hakaishin should work together. The only difference is that the former needs permission! As I said long ago, it makes sense. The Kaioshin observe and while the Hakaishin destroy indiscriminately, it's great for balance to communicate special requests of certain threats. They hardly meet each other outside of necessity due to not getting along, but I think events forcing cooperation should have procedure. Universe 6 and Universe 7 may be the only set of universes where their gods are so disorganized.

I hope so. Wouldn't it be great to see all the other Gods acting all proper?
Then Beerus and Champa start bickering, U6 Kaioshins embarrassed, pouting in the corner. Kibito and Kaioshin trying to hold back Old Kaioshin from smacking both Hakaishin in the head.
Someone needs to draw this.
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by TekTheNinja » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:26 pm
That was amazing! So much better than the anime version.
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by Nejishiki » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:31 pm
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I hope so. Wouldn't it be great to see all the other Gods acting all proper?
Then Beerus and Champa start bickering, U6 Kaioshins embarrassed, pouting in the corner. Kibito and Kaioshin trying to hold back Old Kaioshin from smacking both Hakaishin in the head.
Someone needs to draw this.
Well, I wouldn't go so far to say they're "proper" as it's been established all Hakaishin are just as violent. I would construe it as them being more "professional" than the gods we know though.
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by TheMikado » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:41 pm
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:kinisking wrote:TheMikado wrote:
Even when taking that into account the manga still seems to be much more coherently written. I can deal with the rushed parts as long as the story remains coherent.
What was more coherent about the manga than in the anime, regarding this chapter?
I don't think that's the right word, better to say that it's "well-jointed". So far, Toyotaro's Trunks Arc has a much better flow.
No coherent is absolutely the right word. It stays consistent within itself and does not create situations statements previously made need to be retracted in order for the story to make sense.
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by HeroR » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:44 pm
alakazam^ wrote:I can perfectly see Whis and Vados going "Eh, time to go find a replacement" after Beers and Champa died. Probably, every attendant communicated with each other and agreed to keep that hush-hush to Zen'ou so as not to have their Universes destroyed and are just scouting their Universes for new God of Destructions. As for why they aren't dealing with Black, it was shown that they are very uptight with rules so it's possible it might not be in their duty to act directly with Universe matters.
I can't see how someone killing the upper gods won't cause anyone to take action. In one universe like with Majin Buu, sure. All 12 universes and it's done by the same guy and no one cares? I'm not buying it.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
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by YonedgeHP » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:52 pm
I hope the anime deepen this whole issue in upcoming episodes, though I doubt it.
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by Viewtiful Jess » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:00 pm
LittleGreen wrote:I do really like the Kaioshin outfit on Trunks.

Made a little edit. May need some polish, but good enough i guess.
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That chapter was really good, i enjoyed the Kaioshin Training and fight against Babidi and Dabura.
About the Zenô thing.
I think is not informed about everything. I mean 12 Universes are a huuuge space. But all 12 Kaioshins are dead, so he had to hear about it. Let´s wait, maybe there is coming more about it, i´m pretty sure.
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by HeroR » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:22 pm
ryou766 wrote:Holy shit, LOVE the manga right now
It being monthly kills me, but it's definitely worth it. I'm enjoying the manga more than the anime without a doubt.
I'm glad that Trunks didn't just one shot Dabura and Babidi like he did in the anime flashback, it actually took some work. Love it.
Trunks didn't one shot Dabura in the anime. Trunks called it a tough battle. We just got the abridged version.
Kanassa wrote:precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
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by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:22 pm
TheMikado wrote:Jinzoningen MULE wrote:kinisking wrote:
What was more coherent about the manga than in the anime, regarding this chapter?
I don't think that's the right word, better to say that it's "well-jointed". So far, Toyotaro's Trunks Arc has a much better flow.
No coherent is absolutely the right word. It stays consistent within itself and does not create situations statements previously made need to be retracted in order for the story to make sense.
I'm talking solely in the context of the very beginning of the Trunks Arc.
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by TheMikado » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:39 pm
Seeing people on other forums complain that Super manga is like fan fiction now...
Geez people love to sling that and "non-canon" for anything they don't like

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by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:41 pm
Both non-canon and fan-fiction are just buzz-words to label anything that DB fans want to diss on.
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by kinisking » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:44 pm
TheMikado wrote:Jinzoningen MULE wrote:kinisking wrote:
What was more coherent about the manga than in the anime, regarding this chapter?
I don't think that's the right word, better to say that it's "well-jointed". So far, Toyotaro's Trunks Arc has a much better flow.
No coherent is absolutely the right word. It stays consistent within itself and does not create situations statements previously made need to be retracted in order for the story to make sense.
Again, examples please.
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