"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[dbgtFO]

How the Z sword survives, katchin and clashes with Daburu but breaks after falling to the floor? are this Super writers from the manga and anime for real?

It's not shown to withstand Katchin. Kibito interrupted the training, before they could use it and unwittingly free Elder Kaioshin like in the original story.

Amazing the things you can pick up on when you actually pay attention. Seriously, half of the shit I've heard about the Z-sword here and on Twitter comes from people skimming the pages. Especially how Dabura incinerates it after he turns it to stone.

Indeed, even people on here being confused about Zamasu talking to Kaioshin, thinking it took place in Trunks' timeline..
Guys come on, silliness like that is exactly why Zamasu wants to exterminate us!

[Friezacooler]

It's not shown to withstand Katchin. Kibito interrupted the training, before they could use it and unwittingly free Elder Kaioshin like in the original story.

Amazing the things you can pick up on when you actually pay attention. Seriously, half of the shit I've heard about the Z-sword here and on Twitter comes from people skimming the pages. Especially how Dabura incinerates it after he turns it to stone.

Indeed, even people on here being confused about Zamasu talking to Kaioshin, thinking it took place in Trunks' timeline..
Guys come on, silliness like that is exactly why Zamasu wants to exterminate us!

still trunks dropped the Z sword and it broke, if it is on earth I can rightly complain unless they or on elder Kai's planet.

[ekrolo2]

still trunks dropped the Z sword and it broke, if it is on earth I can rightly complain unless they or on elder Kai's planet.

Rightly complain about what? Firstly, they are on Earth, not Elder Kai's planet, why would that matter? Secondly, the sword breaking in Trunks' timeline isn't how it broke in the main timeline. Here, Dabura spits his weird stone spit on it that lets Dabura basically kill anyone then vaporizes the thing after it hits the ground.

[alakazam^]

Not just Zen-O, but all the god attendance. And again, someone is killing gods in all universe. This should count as some kind of emergency and unless Black can kill someone like Whis and Vados, there is really no excuse for inaction. Plus, what kind of sense does it make to replace the gods before you kill then thing that killed the other gods? Also, Zen-O came to check on Beerus and Champa for not doing their jobs because they were holding tournament. Yet, taking out the thing killing gods is beneath his time now.

The attendants are just attendants, they might not have the authority to do anything directly. Their role is to attend to the Gods of Destructions and the Gods of Destruction are the clean-up crew.

Regardless, we don't have enough information so we don't know what makes sense or not.

[Khin]

Before the arc started, Toriyama said something about Zen'ou being involved in this arc.

[quote="Akira Toriyama""]It’s the start of a battle that surpasses time and space, and drags in the God of Destruction, Kaiōshin, even the Omni-King! Many mysteries will be revealed![/quote]

I think this whole Hakaishin and Kaioshin all being dead is the main reason for it.

[Friezacooler]

still trunks dropped the Z sword and it broke, if it is on earth I can rightly complain unless they or on elder Kai's planet.

Rightly complain about what? Firstly, they are on Earth, not Elder Kai's planet, why would that matter? Secondly, the sword breaking in Trunks' timeline isn't how it broke in the main timeline. Here, Dabura spits his weird stone spit on it that lets Dabura basically kill anyone then vaporizes the thing after it hits the ground.

if they are on earth the Z sword should have caused a crater when dropped since it is to heavy for Goku and Gohan to lift and isn't elder kai's planet more durable then earth?

[ekrolo2]

if they are on earth the Z sword should have caused a crater when dropped since it is to heavy for Goku and Gohan to lift and isn't elder kai's planet more durable then earth?

Since when does planet durability ever make sense in Dragon Ball? Goku's generic ki blast is thousands of times more powerful than Vegeta's planet cracking attack from the Saiyan Saga and at best all they ever do is make a crater happen. These are blasts made to hurt other people who're also thousands of times more powerful than Vegeta's Galick Gun attack too.You're seriously grasping at straws here.

Also, when Gohan drops the sword, it makes a dent in the ground, not a crater. Hell, it doesn't even make a dent when he drops it just seconds before Old Kai appears.

[Friezacooler]

if they are on earth the Z sword should have caused a crater when dropped since it is to heavy for Goku and Gohan to lift and isn't elder kai's planet more durable then earth?

Since when does planet durability ever make sense in Dragon Ball? Goku's generic ki blast is thousands of times more powerful than Vegeta's planet cracking attack from the Saiyan Saga and at best all they ever do is make a crater happen. These are blasts made to hurt other people who're also thousands of times more powerful than Vegeta's Galick Gun attack too.You're seriously grasping at straws here.

Also, when Gohan drops the sword, it makes a dent in the ground, not a crater. Hell, it doesn't even make a dent when he drops it just seconds before Old Kai appears.

ki is a different subject, as their was always the excuse of " they can control their ki to prevent major damage" but here Trunks dropped the Z sword uncontrolled without enhancing it with ki.

I bet Gohan was standing on the ground when he caused the dent on elder kai's planet? unlike trunks being high up. is your statement based on anime or manga?

[ekrolo2]

ki is a different subject, as their was always the excuse of " they can control their ki to prevent major damage" but here Trunks dropped the Z sword uncontrolled without enhancing it with ki.

I bet Gohan was standing on the ground when he caused the dent on elder kai's planet? unlike trunks being high up. is your statement based on anime or manga?

Gohan drops the sword twice, he first bonks Kibito over the head with it then it falls on the ground, burying itself a little in. The next time he drops it it, it's after Supreme Kai through the big cube at it and broke it in half.

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There's also another thing to remember, when something is hit by Dabura's spit, it becomes really, really fragile. Piccolo, who's tough enough to tank a planet exploding right next to him and survive gets tapped by Trunks and breaks completely when he hits the ground. Under normal conditions, the sword probably would have left a dent in the floor similar to the first image I put up but it broke on contact with it.

[Nejishiki]

Does Black (manga) show increase in power and joy when he get hit?

Goku Black didn't fight, so it's unknown for now.

[TheMikado]

Before the arc started, Toriyama said something about Zen'ou being involved in this arc.

[quote="Akira Toriyama""]It’s the start of a battle that surpasses time and space, and drags in the God of Destruction, Kaiōshin, even the Omni-King! Many mysteries will be revealed!

I think this whole Hakaishin and Kaioshin all being dead is the main reason for it.[/quote]

Right, Zen'o isn't involved yet, but I doubt that means he won't be.

[THEGOKU]

Before the arc started, Toriyama said something about Zen'ou being involved in this arc.

[quote="Akira Toriyama""]It’s the start of a battle that surpasses time and space, and drags in the God of Destruction, Kaiōshin, even the Omni-King! Many mysteries will be revealed!

I think this whole Hakaishin and Kaioshin all being dead is the main reason for it.

Right, Zen'o isn't involved yet, but I doubt that means he won't be.[/quote] He could possibly be the one to kill the Immortal version of Zamasu.

[Duo]

How the Z sword survives, katchin and clashes with Daburu but breaks after falling to the floor? are this Super writers from the manga and anime for real?

It had been turned to stone by Dabura before it hit the ground. Not sure what else you would be expecting.

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Anybody else take note of how Kaioshin used his telekinesis to hold Dabura in place, like he did with Gohan back when? Toyotaro's throwbacks and general sense of things really pleases me. I love this manga.

[LuckyCat]

Anybody else take note of how Kaioshin used his telekinesis to hold Dabura in place, like he did with Gohan back when? Toyotaro's throwbacks and general sense of things really pleases me. I love this manga.

Yes, I liked that a lot too. I always wondered what would happen if the story progressed naturally when Gohan and Kaioshin fought Dabura and Babidi together. I think it would've looked something like this.

[Pannaliciour]

Does Black (manga) show increase in power and joy when he get hit?

Goku Black didn't fight, so it's unknown for now.

But in the previous chapter he fought Trunks right?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Does Black (manga) show increase in power and joy when he get hit?

Goku Black didn't fight, so it's unknown for now.

But in the previous chapter he fought Trunks right?

They fought in Chapter 15, but in the manga, Black's fighting style seems to be identical to Goku's from the start. Which in my opinion, makes for a better version of the mystery.

Although if you wanted to know, the chapters aren't hard to find.

[Nejishiki]

But in the previous chapter he fought Trunks right?

Yes, but I'm fairly certain their scuffle didn't mention his character element in that chapter. Seeing as it was based upon their battle in Episodes 47 and 48, which also didn't feature that information, it's yet to be seen if the two sources share that detail.

[Dilvish]

NVM ......

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I'm not sure if this is okay to ask. But can anybody help me find a site (Inbox) where to see the new chapter? I don't need a link just a site name ...

That's still pretty iffy, but it's honestly really easy to find. Seriously! Use your preferred search engine and look it up!

[Dilvish]

That's still pretty iffy, but it's honestly really easy to find. Seriously! Use your preferred search engine and look it up!

Tried, nothing came up. But thanks. I will just wait