The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:58 pm

Who is the strongest character General Rilldo can defeat in the original Manga?
Gohan Buu.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Analytic » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:52 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:- SSJ Gogeta (Fusion Reborn) vs. Freeza (true form, Resurrection F).
- Kibitoshin vs. Dabura.
- Ninja Murasaki vs. Great Saiyawoman and Mr. Satan.
- I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that Freeza's true form from RF is at least within the higher Fusion-saga tier (Ultimate Gohan, Gotenks/Gohan-Boo, SS Vegetto). I don't consider SS Gogeta anywhere near that strong, so he would lose.
- I consider Kibitoshin even stronger than Pure Boo and SS3 Goku, so Dabra would die from a light punch to the face. Potara did give Goku and Vegeta quite an absurd boost, so even if Kaioshin and Kibito are rather pathetic, I don't find it out of the realm of possibility for Kibitoshin to be so strong.
- I would say Murasaki wins as I don't consider either Videl nor Mr. Satan anywhere close to someone like BoS Goku, who I think Murasaki would at least be stronger than.
In Brightest Day wrote:Who is the strongest character General Rilldo can defeat in the original Manga?
In my opinion, General Rild is stronger than Gohan-Boo, but far weaker than SS Vegetto.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:07 am

Analytic wrote: - I consider Kibitoshin even stronger than Pure Boo and SS3 Goku, so Dabra would die from a light punch to the face. Potara did give Goku and Vegeta quite an absurd boost, so even if Kaioshin and Kibito are rather pathetic, I don't find it out of the realm of possibility for Kibitoshin to be so strong.
I feel like if Kibitoshin was that strong, he would've actually participated in the final fight rather than just observe and wring his hands in fear on some other planet.
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Post by DBZ Macky » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:32 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
Analytic wrote: - I consider Kibitoshin even stronger than Pure Boo and SS3 Goku, so Dabra would die from a light punch to the face. Potara did give Goku and Vegeta quite an absurd boost, so even if Kaioshin and Kibito are rather pathetic, I don't find it out of the realm of possibility for Kibitoshin to be so strong.
I feel like if Kibitoshin was that strong, he would've actually participated in the final fight rather than just observe and wring his hands in fear on some other planet.
Exactly. I even had a hard time believing he was SSJ2 tier.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:13 am

TobyS wrote:DB Multiverse characters run a canon DB-Super gauntlet, what's the strongest they can beat?

1. Final form Cold.
2. SSJ3 Vegeta from the jerk saiyan universe.
3. Raichi, every dead person to date.
4. Improved Hirudegarn/Tapion
5. Zen Buu
6-8. Bra Base/SSJ 1/SSJ2
9. Cell
10. Cells Best Jr.
11. Bardock
12. SSJ Kakarotto
13. Yamcha
14. Gast
15. Adult Gotenks
1. Cold is around CG Vegeta level or a bit higher, so the strongest he can beat is, well, Super Saiyan kid trunks.
2. This vegeta is weaker than regular vegeta from BoG / DBM so I'd put him at slightly below buu arc goku. So, who in DBS, well, I think first form freeza seems fine.
3. Rachi with SS3 vegeta, SS Broly? Not too impressive. Still first form freeza.
4. First form Freeza
5. This is tough. He is definitely stronger than vegetto from buu arc, putting him stronger than everyone but goku, vegeta and higher. The best guess, I'd say SS goku.
6. Super Saiyan kid trunks, and this is a maybe.
7. Mystic gohan
8. SS2 FT when he fought goku
9. First form freeza
10. Tagoma
11. Base goku BoG
12. Android 18
13. Android 18
14. He hasn't shown his true power. However, if I'd have to guess, I'd put him above Super Saiyan Goku, but not SS2 goku. He may still beat him due to fighting abilities and other abilities.
15. SS3 BoG Goku.
In Brightest Day wrote:Some more fights:

- SSJ Gogeta (Fusion Reborn) vs. Freeza (true form, Resurrection F).
- Kibitoshin vs. Dabura.
- Ninja Murasaki vs. Great Saiyawoman and Mr. Satan.


Who is the strongest character General Rilldo can defeat in the original Manga?
- GoGeta defeats him.
- Dabra turns him into stone.
- Murasaki was able to withstand goku's blows and fight back, so I'd give it to him.

Also, Rildo should be able to beat Super Saiyan 3 gotenks in his best form.
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What-If Potara Fusion (SSGSS Goku + SSJR Goku Black) vs 100% Full Power Beerus / Whis
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We have yet to see the limits of the powers of Beerus or Whis, but we do know that Whis hilariously outclasses beerus who hilariously outclasses Goku who is almost equal with black, slightly inferior.

Now, vegetto hilariously outclassed buuhan, who himself hilariously outclassed SS3 goku, who hilariously outclassed SS2 goku who hilariously outclassed SS goku. So, by logic, this merging whould be able to defeat the duo, but Whis could win by just trapping him into his staff.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:10 pm

The latest chapter of the Super manga is basically a nail in the coffin to all "Gohan was Super Saiyan 2 against Dabra" arguments. So here's couple matches:
  • SS Goku [Cell Games] vs. Dabra
  • SS Goku [Cell Games] vs. SS Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
  • SS Teen Gohan [Vs. Dabra] vs. SS Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
  • Perfect Cell [Vs. Goku] vs. Dabra
  • Perfect Cell [Vs. Goku] vs. Dabra [No Spit]
  • Super Perfect Cell vs. SS2 Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:31 pm

Khin wrote:The latest chapter of the Super manga is basically a nail in the coffin to all "Gohan was Super Saiyan 2 against Dabra" arguments. So here's couple matches:
  • SS Goku [Cell Games] vs. Dabra
  • SS Goku [Cell Games] vs. SS Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
  • SS Teen Gohan [Vs. Dabra] vs. SS Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
  • Perfect Cell [Vs. Goku] vs. Dabra
  • Perfect Cell [Vs. Goku] vs. Dabra [No Spit]
  • Super Perfect Cell vs. SS2 Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
- Dabra is at least as strong as Cell, Goku has no chance at winning.
- Trunks is probably as strong as Gohan when he fought Cell, so even in Super Saiyan form he is stronger than Goku.
- Despite having the same battle power, Trunks has a slight edge over Gohan.
- Dabra can withstand a barrage of punchs and kicks from a Super Saiyan 2. Cell before zenkai can't even take 2 blows without getting badly damaged. With spit or not Dabra wins.
- The most difficult match for Trunks, but I think he somehow may be able to win. If Dabra wasn't paralized by Kaioshin, who knows if Dabra could react accordingly.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:38 pm

Base Goku (GT) VS First Form Frieza (Resurrection 'F')
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:03 pm

It's Super vs. GT, hard to say. I would say Goku has a chance but it could go either way.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:58 am

Super Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku

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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:15 am

1) Lucifer vs. Dracula (Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2).

2) Goku Black vs. Dark Samus (Metroid Prime 3: Corruption).

3) Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Akasha Bloodriver (Rosario+Vampire).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:24 am

nickzambuto wrote:Super Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku
Assuming you mean both their respective counterparts from the Majin Buu Saga and Dragon Ball GT, it would be an either a completely evenly matched battle or an almost evenly matched battle with either one of the two having a slight edge over the other.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:58 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:Super Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku
Assuming you mean both their respective counterparts from the Majin Buu Saga and Dragon Ball GT, it would be an either a completely evenly matched battle or an almost evenly matched battle with either one of the two having a slight edge over the other.
In this case, Vegetto has an advantage due to being part Vegeta, while SS4 is only Goku.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:22 pm

nickzambuto wrote:Super Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku
I'd say Vegetto by quite a margin. Not like an instant finger-flick or anything as such, but I believe he has an advantage.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:45 pm

nickzambuto wrote:Super Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku
Which Goku? Baby arc goku barely wins. Super 17 arc goku ahndily wins. Beyond limits goku stomps, but loses to SS2 vegetto.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Analytic » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:26 pm

nickzambuto wrote:Super Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku
I don't think that Super Vegetto could even beat Super Vegeta-Baby 1. SS4 Goku would tear him to pieces.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:55 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Lucifer vs. Dracula (Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2).

2) Goku Black vs. Dark Samus (Metroid Prime 3: Corruption).

3) Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Akasha Bloodriver (Rosario+Vampire).
1) The winner goes to Gabriel Belmont, the most badass incarnation of Dracula to ever exist.

2) Given how formidable these two are on the battlefield, they might even take each other out.

3) Akasha would win this fight against Chi-Chi as she can regenerate like the Perfect Form of Cell.

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Post by ZombieVito » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:39 am

Khin wrote:The latest chapter of the Super manga is basically a nail in the coffin to all "Gohan was Super Saiyan 2 against Dabra" arguments. So here's couple matches:
  • SS Goku [Cell Games] vs. Dabra
  • SS Goku [Cell Games] vs. SS Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
  • SS Teen Gohan [Vs. Dabra] vs. SS Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
  • Perfect Cell [Vs. Goku] vs. Dabra
  • Perfect Cell [Vs. Goku] vs. Dabra [No Spit]
  • Super Perfect Cell vs. SS2 Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
Dabra finger flicks.
Trunks finger flicks.
Same as above.
Dabra finger flicks.
Same as above.
Trunks kills him in seconds.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:52 am

Anime Kitten wrote:Base Goku (GT) VS First Form Frieza (Resurrection 'F')
Freeza very easily. GT goku did nothing to put him infinitely above SS3 gotenks. So, its obvious.
Khin wrote:The latest chapter of the Super manga is basically a nail in the coffin to all "Gohan was Super Saiyan 2 against Dabra" arguments. So here's couple matches:
  • SS Goku [Cell Games] vs. Dabra
  • SS Goku [Cell Games] vs. SS Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
  • SS Teen Gohan [Vs. Dabra] vs. SS Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
  • Perfect Cell [Vs. Goku] vs. Dabra
  • Perfect Cell [Vs. Goku] vs. Dabra [No Spit]
  • Super Perfect Cell vs. SS2 Future Trunks [Vs. Dabra]
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:51 pm

1) GT Bulla vs. Towa. (No Spear Staff and Dark Magic whatsoever.)

2) Super Saiyan GT Bulla vs. Future Android 18. (Both at equal power to Super Saiyan God Goku and their place of battle is on the Sacred World of the Supreme Kais.)

3) Future Trunks (after being healed by a Senzu Bean for the second time in Dragon Ball Super) vs. Mira (Dragon Ball: Xenoverse). (On King Kai's Planet to catch Bubbles and hit Gregory with a hammer.)

4) Super Saiyan Future Trunks (after being healed by a Senzu Bean for the second time in Dragon Ball Super) vs. Super 17 (10x Kamehameha Absorbed). (But both have to duke it out just outside of Beerus' Castle while the God of Destruction is asleep.)

5) GT Trunks (with Brave Sword equipped) vs. Majin Dabura. (Before meditation and no Stone Spit.)

6) Super Saiyan GT Trunks (with Brave Sword equipped) vs Xeno Dabura (with his Darkness Sword equipped). (In nothing but a traditional sword duel to the death.)

7) Super Saiyan GT Trunks (with Brave Sword equipped), Future Trunks Saga Super Saiyan Future Trunks (with his restored Brave Sword equipped), and Super Saiyan GT Bulla vs. Goku Black. (With the evil doppelganger of Goku not being able to gain strength from receiving damage and any help from Future Zamasu.)

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