nite_jay wrote:I kind of wish they'd just forget about EoZ. But since Oob was mentioned already though they don't have to completely forget about him.
Even if EoZ doesn't happen Uub will so I don't think them mentioning Uub confirms or denies anything about EoZ.
Let's be real there was nothing special or interesting about EoZ except Goku left his family to train Uub. They can literally do that one of a million ways in Super.
Speaking of Ubb, how would you guys introduce him in Super? I would like to see Ubb being featured soon because he could become a strong ally for the Z-fighters.
TV Guides only give the first part of the title. This is all the episode title.
Seems fake to me, we can read "Enter Zen-chan! Erase Black!", the arc is already over?
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Episode titles are also very fishy. Could be that Goku hit the stupid button in a certain timeline and it doesn't change the future issues.
It also could be entirely bogus. Interesting, though. Where is the source for the episode title in question? 2chan got it from a tv guide, someone said?
Oh I now so hope it happens. Zeno can play with the delicious Super Saiyan Rose as Beerus put it. Black can give him the adorable gift of Rose. Drink it man!
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Noah wrote:Please don't be true, it would be a big turn off for Zeno be the one to exterminate Black
I agree plus to be honest I get he is the strongest character but unless he transforms I can't even watch that fight and not take it as a joke. Aside from that it has to be done in a better way than just here Zeno kill him. It could have to do with the button Zeno could come but Goku won't allow him to kill Black. Idk but if this is how it ends after all the build up the suspense and greatness this arc has it would be a big letdown.
Sonicjamareiz wrote:I hope this isn't true if so way to blue ball it Toriyama.
Think of it like this: Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks have absolutely no way to defeat Black. All hope seems lost, and the only thing that can do it is Zen'ou himself. Isn't that actually good since that means Black is really that powerful?
Sonicjamareiz wrote:I hope this isn't true if so way to blue ball it Toriyama.
Think of it like this: Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks have absolutely no way to defeat Black. All hope seems lost, and the only thing that can do it is Zen'ou himself. Isn't that actually good since that means Black is really that powerful?
No, because having a "fix-everything button" is always bad storytelling. It's why I hate that the Earth's Dragon Balls are so easy to use.
I hope there's more to it than that, it's far too easy a deus ex machina to employ even if it's done once.
"Don't take pleasure in destruction!" / "I will not let you destroy my world!"
A true hero goes beyond not the limits of power, but the limits that divide countries and people.
That's not the episode's title, that's an example of what kind of title the user doesn't want to see when the magazine leaks.
So, it's a false alarm? Phew...
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Yeah, considering that the sentence before the "title" is asking when the TV Guide is coming out, it's purely that person's speculation of what they hope not to see. And I have to agree with them that it would be very disappointing to have such a literal deus ex machina conclusion to this arc!
sailorspazz wrote:Yeah, considering that the sentence before the "title" is asking when the TV Guide is coming out, it's purely that person's speculation of what they hope not to see. And I have to agree with them that it would be very disappointing to have such a literal deus ex machina conclusion to this arc!
But it isn't though. We've known about KoA's immense power since he was introduced, just like Whis' time rewind in the Freeza movie and we know Goku can summon KoA at will now too... It would however be very underhwhelming though, a poor conclusion is what I'm worried about the most and this would fit that bill unless KoA being involved brings more to the table other then boom Black and Zamasu are no more maybe KoA shows up and even he can't defeat Blamasu (maybe I am just gonna call em that from now lol)
It was pretty obvious that KOA wouldn't kill Zamasu. That would be literally trash. Toriyama isn't that bad guys.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
