"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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I agree plus to be honest I get he is the strongest character but unless he transforms I can't even watch that fight and not take it as a joke. Aside from that it has to be done in a better way than just here Zeno kill him. It could have to do with the button Zeno could come but Goku won't allow him to kill Black. Idk but if this is how it ends after all the build up the suspense and greatness this arc has it would be a big letdown.
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Post by THEGOKU » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:34 pm

I'm actually watching the History of Trunks as it's known in Dub world and I have one question in regards to it and super. Where the hell is Roshi and Chi-Chi and everyone else that wasn't killed? We don't need them everywhere but for them to appear would at least be nice. Also Trunks whole life has been fucked no wonder he is so happy to have Mai.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:36 pm

THEGOKU wrote:I'm actually watching the History of Trunks as it's known in Dub world and I have one question in regards to it and super. Where the hell is Roshi and Chi-Chi and everyone else that wasn't killed? We don't need them everywhere but for them to appear would at least be nice. Also Trunks whole life has been fucked no wonder he is so happy to have Mai.
Keep in mind that Toei wrote a lot of that special, making it largely filler. Remember also that Yajirobe died at the very beginning as well, but we know that not to be the case in DBS.
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Post by Sandubadear » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:17 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
THEGOKU wrote:I'm actually watching the History of Trunks as it's known in Dub world and I have one question in regards to it and super. Where the hell is Roshi and Chi-Chi and everyone else that wasn't killed? We don't need them everywhere but for them to appear would at least be nice. Also Trunks whole life has been fucked no wonder he is so happy to have Mai.
Keep in mind that Toei wrote a lot of that special, making it largely filler. Remember also that Yajirobe died at the very beginning as well, but we know that not to be the case in DBS.
Because Yajirobe ate his last Senzu. A lot of filler from Z were carried over to Super.
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Sandubadear wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
THEGOKU wrote:I'm actually watching the History of Trunks as it's known in Dub world and I have one question in regards to it and super. Where the hell is Roshi and Chi-Chi and everyone else that wasn't killed? We don't need them everywhere but for them to appear would at least be nice. Also Trunks whole life has been fucked no wonder he is so happy to have Mai.
Keep in mind that Toei wrote a lot of that special, making it largely filler. Remember also that Yajirobe died at the very beginning as well, but we know that not to be the case in DBS.
Because Yajirobe ate his last Senzu. A lot of filler from Z were carried over to Super.
Correct Super is canon to the anime and not the original manga as it has anime only characters which don't appear in the manga.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:32 pm

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
THEGOKU wrote:I'm actually watching the History of Trunks as it's known in Dub world and I have one question in regards to it and super. Where the hell is Roshi and Chi-Chi and everyone else that wasn't killed? We don't need them everywhere but for them to appear would at least be nice. Also Trunks whole life has been fucked no wonder he is so happy to have Mai.
Keep in mind that Toei wrote a lot of that special, making it largely filler. Remember also that Yajirobe died at the very beginning as well, but we know that not to be the case in DBS.
Because Yajirobe ate his last Senzu. A lot of filler from Z were carried over to Super.
In the filler shot, Karin was nowhere to be seen when the Androids killed him. Don't put too much stock in those lining up with one another.

Remember, DBS is based more on Toriyama than HoT was, so expect it to ignore most of the filler events.
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Post by Nejishiki » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:40 pm

THEGOKU wrote:I'm actually watching the History of Trunks as it's known in Dub world and I have one question in regards to it and super. Where the hell is Roshi and Chi-Chi and everyone else that wasn't killed? We don't need them everywhere but for them to appear would at least be nice. Also Trunks whole life has been fucked no wonder he is so happy to have Mai.
I assume Chi-Chi is still living at her house and Turtle Hermit is still living in the submarine with Oolong and Pu'er. The Future Trunks arc never visits those locations, so I don't see the foul.

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote: In the filler shot, Karin was nowhere to be seen when the Androids killed him. Don't put too much stock in those lining up with one another.

Remember, DBS is based more on Toriyama than HoT was, so expect it to ignore most of the filler events.
One, Yajirobe's death wasn't in History of Trunks. It was in a Z filler scene. Even then, it was brief and Korin could have easily rushed in and save Yajirobe at the last second.

Two, Super already used History of Trunks since Trunks went Super Saiyan upon Gohan's death in a flashback, while in the manga Trunks was already a Super Saiyan.

Three, Super is based on an outline by Toriyama and Toei have reference their own filler a number of times.
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Post by Sandubadear » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:46 pm

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Sandubadear wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Keep in mind that Toei wrote a lot of that special, making it largely filler. Remember also that Yajirobe died at the very beginning as well, but we know that not to be the case in DBS.
Because Yajirobe ate his last Senzu. A lot of filler from Z were carried over to Super.
In the filler shot, Karin was nowhere to be seen when the Androids killed him. Don't put too much stock in those lining up with one another.

Remember, DBS is based more on Toriyama than HoT was, so expect it to ignore most of the filler events.
DBS shows us the moment Gohan dies and Trunks turning SSJ just like in HoT...
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Post by kinisking » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:51 pm

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Sandubadear wrote: Because Yajirobe ate his last Senzu. A lot of filler from Z were carried over to Super.
In the filler shot, Karin was nowhere to be seen when the Androids killed him. Don't put too much stock in those lining up with one another.

Remember, DBS is based more on Toriyama than HoT was, so expect it to ignore most of the filler events.
DBS shows us the moment Gohan dies and Trunks turning SSJ just like in HoT...
Pretty sure 52 was a filler episode.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:51 pm

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Sandubadear wrote: Because Yajirobe ate his last Senzu. A lot of filler from Z were carried over to Super.
In the filler shot, Karin was nowhere to be seen when the Androids killed him. Don't put too much stock in those lining up with one another.

Remember, DBS is based more on Toriyama than HoT was, so expect it to ignore most of the filler events.
DBS shows us the moment Gohan dies and Trunks turning SSJ just like in HoT...
So what? If I remember right, that part was in the manga too. If it wasn't, it only means that that one specific event happened in the DBS continuity.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:57 pm

kinisking wrote:Pretty sure 52 was a filler episode.
I don't get this. How do you automatically determine if something is "filler" when it seemingly does nothing to advance the plot? I don't think that means it's filler.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:58 pm

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kinisking wrote:Pretty sure 52 was a filler episode.
I don't get this. How do you automatically determine if something is "filler" when it seemingly does nothing to advance the plot? I don't think that means it's filler.
That's the literal definition of filler, most people in anime communities just use the word wrong.
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Post by THEGOKU » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:12 pm

With all that considered I just find it interesting that something they can use as reference material they don't and it really isn't a big deal at all if these characters are shown. It's just for them to react to seeing characters like Black or Goku and Vegeta when they went into the future. I mean after all a scene with Chi-Chi seeing Goku after all the years would be endearing or even her and Roshi's reaction to black looking like Goku. It's minor things that we don't need to get upset about if not included.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:16 pm

I'm so curious about if Future Chi-Chi is even going to make an appearance. There's so little GoChi in Super compared to VegeBul (hell, compared to VegeKaka too) but she's the only member of Future Gokû's immediate family still alive.

You'd think of anyone could help unravel clues to Gokû Black's identity it'd be her.
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Chuquita wrote:I'm so curious about if Future Chi-Chi is even going to make an appearance. There's so little GoChi in Super compared to VegeBul (hell, compared to VegeKaka too) but she's the only member of Future Gokû's immediate family still alive.

You'd think of anyone could help unravel clues to Gokû Black's identity it'd be her.
I wonder how Black would react to Chi Chi. Considering what happened with Bulma I feel like he'd just kill her on the spot though.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:35 pm

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Chuquita wrote:I'm so curious about if Future Chi-Chi is even going to make an appearance. There's so little GoChi in Super compared to VegeBul (hell, compared to VegeKaka too) but she's the only member of Future Gokû's immediate family still alive.

You'd think of anyone could help unravel clues to Gokû Black's identity it'd be her.
I wonder how Black would react to Chi Chi. Considering what happened with Bulma I feel like he'd just kill her on the spot though.
He obviously doesn't have any emotional attachment to the characters, he probably wouldn't react in an interesting way regardless.
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Post by kinisking » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:37 pm

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kinisking wrote:Pretty sure 52 was a filler episode.
I don't get this. How do you automatically determine if something is "filler" when it seemingly does nothing to advance the plot? I don't think that means it's filler.
Exactly... I don't get what you're getting at. Plus, it almost certainly wasn't in Toriyama's outline.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:41 pm

kinisking wrote:Exactly... I don't get what you're getting at. Plus, it almost certainly wasn't in Toriyama's outline.
I just wish the term wasn't so overused, since we don't actually know what is or isn't in the outline. He could've wrote "Trunks rests and visits the" for lack of a better word "retired heroes," for example.
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Post by Nekis13 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:52 pm

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Chuquita wrote:I'm so curious about if Future Chi-Chi is even going to make an appearance. There's so little GoChi in Super compared to VegeBul (hell, compared to VegeKaka too) but she's the only member of Future Gokû's immediate family still alive.

You'd think of anyone could help unravel clues to Gokû Black's identity it'd be her.
I wonder how Black would react to Chi Chi. Considering what happened with Bulma I feel like he'd just kill her on the spot though.
He obviously doesn't have any emotional attachment to the characters, he probably wouldn't react in an interesting way regardless.
I was thinking he'd react a bit like when he saw Vegeta but I guess you're right
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