As per my interpretation, it only killed Roshi and Mutaito because Piccolo was so much more powerful than them. Since Kami was a lot closer in strength to Piccolo, it probably wouldn't kill him.MarCas92 wrote:Non-thread worthy but I never EVER seen anyone talk about it.
What the fuck is up with Kami sama at the 23rd Budokai when he says, humans have taught him a way of defeating Piccolo without dying and then goes on to use the Mafu-Ba? You know....THE ATTACK THAT KILLS THE USER?!?!?!
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It didn't kill Tenshinhan. He also practiced with it before attempting it properly. I figure that Roshi's understanding of ki control wasn't as advanced. The only ki blast he developed was the Kamehameha and his training never revolved around applying them with regularity. In other words, Crane School students who methodically hone their ki levels over their physical toughness, can manipulate the Mafuba to keep themselves from harm. Naturally, God can accomplish this, too. He's no slouch with ki management. A "regular human" would likely die as Roshi did attempting the technique. That's what I get out of it, at least. For the sake of completion, I'm aware he utilized ki in the 21st Tenkaichi Budoukai, but it was never his primary source of attacking. I'm just thinking that if he had gained additional familiarity with ki, he'd learn to survive it. Mutaito died from it himself and Roshi is likely imitating the way he understood it.MarCas92 wrote:Non-thread worthy but I never EVER seen anyone talk about it.
What the fuck is up with Kami sama at the 23rd Budokai when he says, humans have taught him a way of defeating Piccolo without dying and then goes on to use the Mafu-Ba? You know....THE ATTACK THAT KILLS THE USER?!?!?!
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Of course he practiced it, but I don't think that has anything to do with him being more capable with ki or stronger than Roshi. I think we're meant to infer that it's not just the mafuba, but using it on a target is what saps a person's life force.
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That's likely, too. It's just at odds with what is said when both Tenshinhan and God survive it just fine. Turtle Hermit and Mutaito seem to be missing something. Rounding back to your life sapping comment, if it's tied to your ki, then you could say a high enough level could afford you the luxury of "spending" the Mafuba and surviving.
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Let's talk about Eevee going super saiyan god:
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Only a two-stage increase to each stat? That'd be more along the lines of the regular/2-times Kaio-ken than Super Saiyan God... though with the "Eevee evolutions showing up in a circle and sending energy into the Eevee" thing I see where you're seeing a resemblance. XD
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That was my guess. Once you become "strong enough" the Mafuba's / Evil Containment Wave's side effects are voidedJinzoningen MULE wrote:As per my interpretation, it only killed Roshi and Mutaito because Piccolo was so much more powerful than them. Since Kami was a lot closer in strength to Piccolo, it probably wouldn't kill him.MarCas92 wrote:Non-thread worthy but I never EVER seen anyone talk about it.
What the fuck is up with Kami sama at the 23rd Budokai when he says, humans have taught him a way of defeating Piccolo without dying and then goes on to use the Mafu-Ba? You know....THE ATTACK THAT KILLS THE USER?!?!?!
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I don't have the Boo saga volumes with me now, so I wanted to ask: does Bra exists in the MANGA? Was she a creation of TOEI or canon (i.e. Toriyama created her)?
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She's at the end of the manga.Bagginses wrote:I don't have the Boo saga volumes with me now, so I wanted to ask: does Bra exists in the MANGA? Was she a creation of TOEI or canon (i.e. Toriyama created her)?
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Yes, Bulla is canon. Last two chapters of the manga. She's a very minor character, so it's not weird that people forget.Bagginses wrote:I don't have the Boo saga volumes with me now, so I wanted to ask: does Bra exists in the MANGA? Was she a creation of TOEI or canon (i.e. Toriyama created her)?
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I find it hilarious how FUNi changed Goku saying he doesn't want to see Bulma's dirty butt to dirty fanny and then totally changed the conservation in the bath from Bulma has a butt on her chest to Bulma being jealous of not having a tail.
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Thanks.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:She's at the end of the manga.Bagginses wrote:I don't have the Boo saga volumes with me now, so I wanted to ask: does Bra exists in the MANGA? Was she a creation of TOEI or canon (i.e. Toriyama created her)?
Good to know it's not just me then.Alruneia wrote:Yes, Bulla is canon. Last two chapters of the manga. She's a very minor character, so it's not weird that people forget.Bagginses wrote:I don't have the Boo saga volumes with me now, so I wanted to ask: does Bra exists in the MANGA? Was she a creation of TOEI or canon (i.e. Toriyama created her)?
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Did Bulma talk at least once to Ten Shin Han?
What characters exactly do for a living (despite the ones we know, like Krillin and Bulma)?
I mean... Piccolo live in a cave?
Vegeta is unemployed?
Yamcha still play baseball?
And what Oolong do?
Most of them lived by robbery, now that they're honest people, how they eat?
What characters exactly do for a living (despite the ones we know, like Krillin and Bulma)?
I mean... Piccolo live in a cave?
Vegeta is unemployed?
Yamcha still play baseball?
And what Oolong do?
Most of them lived by robbery, now that they're honest people, how they eat?
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Anyone else feel like opening a shotgun tasting business after talking to people on youtube about Dragon Ball related anything? Cause I sure do after getting into another canon debate.
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Why does every Kaioshin in every universe have to have a Mohawk when they are born? Can't they grow their own hairstyle as they please?
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Are you saying mohawks aren't the greatest hairstyle of all time?Lord Beerus wrote:Why does every Kaioshin in every universe have to have a Mohawk when they are born? Can't they grow their own hairstyle as they please?
I don't touch Youtube comments anymore, but /a/ is pretty bad nowadays.ekrolo2 wrote:Anyone else feel like opening a shotgun tasting business after talking to people on youtube about Dragon Ball related anything? Cause I sure do after getting into another canon debate.
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I have nothing against mohwaks, but... well... I always wanted to see a Kaioshin with an afro or dreadlocks or some other hairstyle, ya know.Doctor. wrote:Are you saying mohawks aren't the greatest hairstyle of all time?Lord Beerus wrote:Why does every Kaioshin in every universe have to have a Mohawk when they are born? Can't they grow their own hairstyle as they please?
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Picturing Supreme Kai with dreadlocks just looks really really strange to meLord Beerus wrote:I have nothing against mohwaks, but... well... I always wanted to see a Kaioshin with an afro or dreadlocks or some other hairstyle, ya know.Doctor. wrote:Are you saying mohawks aren't the greatest hairstyle of all time?Lord Beerus wrote:Why does every Kaioshin in every universe have to have a Mohawk when they are born? Can't they grow their own hairstyle as they please?
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Those are the times I really want a drawing pad.Dbzfan94 wrote:Picturing Supreme Kai with dreadlocks just looks really really strange to meLord Beerus wrote:I have nothing against mohwaks, but... well... I always wanted to see a Kaioshin with an afro or dreadlocks or some other hairstyle, ya know.Doctor. wrote: Are you saying mohawks aren't the greatest hairstyle of all time?
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Sometimes I wonder if we analyze the story and characters more deeply than even Toriyama did. I mean, look, I have absolutely nothing against watching a kid's show as an adult (and if that's enough to qualify me as a nerd/dork, then I embrace that label without regret), but I wonder if Toriyama would find it weird to know that there's an entire forum revolving around adults from many different nationalities...analyzing a story that was meant for Japanese children.
As just one example, we write post after post and thread after thread about Goku's character...but I wonder if Toriyama simply approached the character with the attitude of, "He's not complicated, he just likes to fight and eat and that's that."
I don't know that I could necessarily make an entire thread out of this thought, but then again, that's why I posted it here.
As just one example, we write post after post and thread after thread about Goku's character...but I wonder if Toriyama simply approached the character with the attitude of, "He's not complicated, he just likes to fight and eat and that's that."
I don't know that I could necessarily make an entire thread out of this thought, but then again, that's why I posted it here.
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"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."








