"Dragon Ball Fusions" Official Discussion Thread

[Xeogran]

Who is fused with who on this photo?

[spoiler]

Because that Vegetto SSJ4 looks amazing.[/spoiler]

[Nejishiki]

I believe that's just Goku fused with the player's avatar. The name of the fusion isn't a portmanteau of anything.

[Rinsankajugin]

Actually, DBF's streetpass function can fuse characters you can't normally fuse in-game. Remember how there's that extra character slot between the CAC and Pinich that's never used? The streetpass fusion goes there. Also, the streetpass fusion only uses the name of the initiator. Here's some special examples:

Streetpass SSJB EX Gogeta


Streetpass SSJ4 EX Gogeta


Streetpass SSJ3/Base EX Kid Karoly


I wish it was possible to have more than one streetpass fusion at a time, but it's something.

[Nejishiki]

I see! I didn't read into it thoroughly enough.

[Rinsankajugin]

It's very crazy, though it sucks how all the cool and weird fusions are locked behind streetpass. I wish there was a way to keep each one on the roster.

Btw, the fusion ya posted seems to be between SSJ4 Goku and Vegetto. I'll call the fusion SSJ4 EX Gogetto.

[dualist]

So for those of you who have played the game. My personal favorite DBZ handheld was Legendary Super Warriors. Would you say this game is someone similar yet advanced version given the turn-based RPG style? I absolutely loved that game and have been waiting years for something similar.

[Rinsankajugin]

So for those of you who have played the game. My personal favorite DBZ handheld was Legendary Super Warriors. Would you say this game is someone similar yet advanced version given the turn-based RPG style? I absolutely loved that game and have been waiting years for something similar.

I'd say a good way to explain this game is if...

Dragon Ball Heroes (Characters & What-Ifs) meets Pokemon (Turn-Based Collect-Em-All) meets Marbles (Knocking enemies into each other in an arena). Does that sound good? It's honestly more fun to play than to explain, so if you don't know what you're doing at first, you'll get the hang of it quickly.

[dualist]

So for those of you who have played the game. My personal favorite DBZ handheld was Legendary Super Warriors. Would you say this game is someone similar yet advanced version given the turn-based RPG style? I absolutely loved that game and have been waiting years for something similar.

I'd say a good way to explain this game is if...

Dragon Ball Heroes (Characters & What-Ifs) meets Pokemon (Turn-Based Collect-Em-All) meets Marbles (Knocking enemies into each other in an arena). Does that sound good? It's honestly more fun to play than to explain, so if you don't know what you're doing at first, you'll get the hang of it quickly.

Sounds good to me, thanks! I'm super excited for this game and pretty sure it will keep me occupied for quite some time. The battle system looks fun and seems to have an interesting looking strategic element to it.

[miguelnuva1]

Btw, the fusion ya posted seems to be between SSJ4 Goku and Vegetto. I'll call the fusion SSJ4 EX Gogetto.

I believe their both ex gogeta.

[Xeztin]

I wonder how many possible fusions there are?

[Rinsankajugin]

I wonder how many possible fusions there are?

Metamoran Fusions:
[spoiler]

• Gotenks
  SSJ Gotenks
  SSJ3 Gotenks
  Super Gogeta
  SSJ4 Gogeta
  Prilin
  Tiencha
  Natz
  Recooter
  Gulce

[/spoiler]

EX Fusions:
[spoiler]

• Karoly
  Gorilin
  Krigohan
  Barotto
  Pandel
  Towane
  EX Gohanks
  Kuhan
  Vegenks
  EX Prilin
  EX Tiencha
  Majin Satan
  Cellza
  Ginyuman
  Towale
  Brapan
  Yameta
  Beerwhis
  Great Saiyaman 12
  Burce
  Chiaoen
  EX Gogeta
  Reguldo
  Janks
  Chiaomen
  Damira
  Janembuu
  Cell 17
  Arale 18
  Perfect 16
  1617
  1718
  1920
  Pickon
  Nuova Shenku
  Kibiccolo-Kai
  Demon King Daccolo
  Fooler
  Ginyuza
  Great Jaco
  Kibeerus-Kai
  Chiaoldo
  Rappa
  Pineta
  CAC + Any Non-Fused Character (170 fusions, takes up your CAC slot)

[/spoiler]

QR Code Fusions:
[spoiler]

• Future Gohanks
  Gorus
  Taks
  Great Satanman

[/spoiler]

Maxi-Fusions (Race, gender and skin-color differs depending the initiator)
[spoiler]

• Male Human (Blue-Green Hair)
  Female Human (Blue-Green Hair)
  Male Saiyan (Golden SSJ4)
  Female Saiyan (Golden SSJ4)
  Male Alien (looks like Burter/Ginyu w/ Hair)
  Female Alien (looks like Ledgic w/ Hair)
  Male Otherworlder (Giant Supreme Kai)
  Female Otherworlder (Giant Supreme Kai)
  Namekian (Great Namek)

[/spoiler]

There's also around 793 EX fusions for the game's original characters, but it'll take forever to list 'em off, and no one's unlocked all of 'em.

Lastly, as previously stated, the 001 character slot is for Arbitrary EX Fusions (KF) that can only be unlocked through streetpass, and you can only have one at a time. Doing the math, not counting the CAC, there's 28,730 possible Arbitrary EX Fusions. Here's pics of some of these streetpass fusions.

So in total, there's 29,764 possible fusions period in Dragon Ball Fusions, though some fusions are harder to unlock than others.

[Xeztin]

I wonder how many possible fusions there are?

Metamoran Fusions:
[spoiler]

• Gotenks
  SSJ Gotenks
  SSJ3 Gotenks
  Super Gogeta
  SSJ4 Gogeta
  Prilin
  Tiencha
  Natz
  Recooter
  Gulce

[/spoiler]

EX Fusions:
[spoiler]

• Karoly
  Gorilin
  Krigohan
  Barotto
  Pandel
  Towane
  EX Gohanks
  Kuhan
  Vegenks
  EX Prilin
  EX Tiencha
  Majin Satan
  Cellza
  Ginyuman
  Towale
  Brapan
  Yameta
  Beerwhis
  Great Saiyaman 12
  Burce
  Chiaoen
  EX Gogeta
  Reguldo
  Janks
  Chiaomen
  Damira
  Janembuu
  Cell 17
  Arale 18
  Perfect 16
  1617
  1718
  1920
  Pickon
  Nuova Shenku
  Kibiccolo-Kai
  Demon King Daccolo
  Fooler
  Ginyuza
  Great Jaco
  Kibeerus-Kai
  Chiaoldo
  Rappa
  Pineta
  CAC + Any Non-Fused Character (170 fusions, takes up your CAC slot)

[/spoiler]

QR Code Fusions:
[spoiler]

• Future Gohanks
  Gorus
  Taks
  Great Satanman

[/spoiler]

Maxi-Fusions (Race, gender and skin-color differs depending the initiator)
[spoiler]

• Male Human (Blue-Green Hair)
  Female Human (Blue-Green Hair)
  Male Saiyan (Golden SSJ4)
  Female Saiyan (Golden SSJ4)
  Male Alien (looks like Burter/Ginyu w/ Hair)
  Female Alien (looks like Ledgic w/ Hair)
  Male Otherworlder (Giant Supreme Kai)
  Female Otherworlder (Giant Supreme Kai)
  Namekian (Great Namek)

[/spoiler]

There's also around 793 EX fusions for the game's original characters, but it'll take forever to list 'em off, and no one's unlocked all of 'em.

Lastly, as previously stated, the 001 character slot is for Arbitrary EX Fusions (KF) that can only be unlocked through streetpass, and you can only have one at a time. Doing the math, not counting the CAC, there's 28,730 possible Arbitrary EX Fusions. Here's pics of some of these streetpass fusions.

So in total, there's 29,764 possible fusions period in Dragon Ball Fusions, though some fusions are harder to unlock than others.

Thanks a lot for listing all that and almost 30.000?! Holy cow, that's a lot of character designs!

[Neon Z]

I don't know if you considered it in those numbers, but there are basically two results for each Streetpass fusion.

The formula for Streetpass fusions basically seems to be:

2nd character's hair (colors mixed from both characters)
Base character's face
Base characters' shirt with the 2nd characters' color
2nd characters' pants with 1st characters' color

So, for example, when you fuse SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta, either one might be the "base" and "2nd character" which means that there's actually two results for each pair.

[Rinsankajugin]

I don't know if you considered it in those numbers, but there are basically two results for each Streetpass fusion.

The formula for Streetpass fusions basically seems to be:

2nd character's hair (colors mixed from both characters)
Base character's face
Base characters' shirt with the 2nd characters' color
2nd characters' pants with 1st characters' color

So, for example, when you fuse SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta, either one might be the "base" and "2nd character" which means that there's actually two results for each pair.

Wait, if you're correct, then that means...

Holy shit, that'd mean this game has 58,494 possible fusions.

[Neon Z]

Here's an example:

The fusion posted before, KF Vegeta (SSJB Vegeta base, SSJB Goku secondary)


Now, the other way around, SSJBlue Goku as primary and SSJB Vegeta as secondary.


By "primary", I mean the character chosen by the player, while the "secondary" is the one gotten from someone else through Streetpass. Of course, just looking at those pictures, you'd think it'd be the other way around, since Vegeta's hair style really dominates the design. Also, the voice and general personality is the one of the primary character.

[Nejishiki]

Somebody will have their work cut out for them if they want to document every combination for StreetPass fusions. I can't say I'm not interested either. Ignoring the rather troublesome fused-clothes generator it's running on, those can be drawn to appear natural. The second photo with Goku as the primary would look much better with a few tweaks by hand that the game's engine couldn't afford.

[Rinsankajugin]

A'ight, I re-calculated the amount of fusions for DBF and it seems I was off by a few. Here's the actual amount of fusions:

841 + 10 + 9 + 170 + (((170 * 170) -170) * 2)= 58,490 possible fusions

841 refers to the EX fusions on the 1013 character roster. Since 170 slots are for normal characters, 1 is for the CAC and 1 is for the streetpass fusion, that leaves 841 EX fusions, including main cast, original character and QR code fusions. 10 refers to the game's metamoran fusions, 9 refers to the Maxi-Fusions, and 170 refers to the CAC EX fusions. (((170 * 170) -170) * 2) is the formula that is used to determine how many unique streetpass fusions are possible.

I was previously off by 4, but still, 58,490 possible fusions is a lot more than anyone was expecting, and since every character has a customizable moveset, it makes me wonder how balanced PVP is gonna be...

Anyways, looking back, it makes me chuckle how we thought this game was only gonna have a handful of characters and fusions. As they say, always trust based Gambarion.

[Nejishiki]

The competitive metagame will likely reflect everyone's frustrations with the series. Everyone won't be viable in a battle. So much for escape in video game worlds thanks to those dreaded tier lists. Do you know anything of the Japanese PvP scene, by chance? I just realized I never researched beyond the main game. I can imagine there's a few pet play-styles that are popular. Experimentation with that should be extensive if one commits time towards it.

[Rinsankajugin]

As far as I can tell, I haven't seen any local PVP videos yet, just story mode and tournament mode gameplay.

I'm sure that'll change when the game comes over though.

[Neon Z]

There's also the upcoming online Vs mode being added through an update.