Why don't people like Whis' ability to travel back in time to undo stuff?

[precita]

I don't get it, I see people complain Whis 5 minute time travel power is a "deus ex" or whatever....but I quite like it and it also makes perfect sense. Whis is above the level of Gods, he should have some sort of power to rectify things if they get out of control. He said he uses it to undo destruction to random planets Beerus might cause while he's asleep.

Whis also using it to stop Freeza from blowing up Earth, and stop Zamasu from killing also makes perfect sense in context of the story. Its also not like they're going to use Whis' time travel powers every single time a screw up happens, so I don't see the problem.

I think its quite interesting myself.

[Patrolman Jaco]

Probably because they think it ruins the "sense of danger" even though Dragon Ball never really had that. Anyway, I agree with you, it makes perfect sense for Whis to have that ability since he's basically a leash for the God of Destruction.

[Friezacooler]

Probably because they think it ruins the "sense of danger" even though Dragon Ball never really had that. Anyway, I agree with you, it makes perfect sense for Whis to have that ability since he's basically a leash for the God of Destruction.

he only seems to be able to use it when the plot seems to require it, which we call major bull****.

Whis isn't needed for that, there is 3 sets of dragonball and who knows. And there is proply more Namek like planets and earths with dragon balls in the other universes.

[Kagari]

It's another deus ex machina, or convenient resolution, in a sea of them in this series. Whis and Beerus being around so much really hurt the sense of tension here.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Because it's just one more get out of jail free card in a stack at least half a dozen high.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I personally have no problem with it. Are heroes have so many things to get out of a jam that another one on top of an already big pile doesn't even faze me...
But it does make sense for a powerful being like Whis to have such a technique.

[HeroR]

Deus ex machina is a plot device that appears out of nowhere with no foreshadowing or forewarning. Whis' time rewind was never a deus ex machina since it was foreshadowed and explained before he used it. Seriously, used the term correctly. It's like how plot hole is always used wrong around here.

[Lujin_16]

Those are people who complaining about everything nowdays

[VegettoEX]

he only seems to be able to use it when the plot seems to require it, which we call major bull****.

As opposed to what? The sushi was left out too long and so we need to rewind to eat it at its optimal resting time?

I don't understand this complaint.

[TheMikado]

I think the problem at this point is that we have yet to see a scenario where Whis should have used it and didn't. Following the ROF arc we haven't had any high stakes moments so we do not know how it will be used in the future.

If there's comes a time where it should have been used and it's not due to increasing the drama then we will be scratching our heads. As it stands now the manga gives a foreshadowed excuse for Whis to not use it in the future, because it's not available to him. If we get that moment that I'm talking about in the anime then it will come off as I can't use it for reasons...

Anyway I don't mind the ability in and of itself however it now require you to constantly write around it.

[Doctor.]

It's just another "get out of jail free" card, and the series already has plenty of those. It'd be fine if we didn't have dragon balls anymore, but as it stands, the heroes have too many options to get a second shot at succeeding. Though I like that it has more drawbacks than the dragon balls (only 3 minutes, can't use it after a while after the fact meaning you only got one shot), it's still cheap.

It was also crazy predictable in the movie and it made the climax incredibly boring and tensionless. In the retelling it was a bit more subtle, but still not properly executed I feel.I think the recent use of it was properly done, however.

[Puto]

I kinda hope its use here backfires. In this last episode, Beerus mentioned that a god killing another god has ramifications across timelines. Well, here, Zamasu killed Gowasu, and even with Whis reversing it, it'd be interesting to have some sort of ramification across the timelines.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I kinda hope its use here backfires. In this last episode, Beerus mentioned that a god killing another god has ramifications across timelines. Well, here, Zamasu killed Gowasu, and even with Whis reversing it, it'd be interesting to have some sort of ramification across the timelines.

It would be quite a stretch though. I honestly think Beerus was just talking big when mentioning the "God killing rule" or whatever you want to call it.

[DragonBallFoodie]

It feels a lot like a reboot used only when things are really bad. Compare it with the 1978 Superman film, when he travelled in time to save Lois Lane from getting killed.

There should be a situation where it can be used for humorous purposes, which may help raise its popularity.

[Cipher]

It feels a lot like a reboot used only when things are really bad. Compare it with the 1978 Superman film, when he travelled in time to save Lois Lane from getting killed.

It's the ability of a separate, amoral character, that can only be used every so often and only extends back three minutes.

It's hardly an offender on that scale.

[TheMikado]

It feels a lot like a reboot used only when things are really bad. Compare it with the 1978 Superman film, when he travelled in time to save Lois Lane from getting killed.

There should be a situation where it can be used for humorous purposes, which may help raise its popularity.

I'm glad you brought that up because the era of Superman also had random things like throwing the S shield on his chest. This was widely lauded as poor writing even by those not familiar with the superhero. Things like this can retroactively affect the plot because you be fine to ask "why didn't he do that from the beginning?"

[Nejishiki]

The usage of Whis' ability hasn't been offensive in a narrative sense. It's properly introduced as something that he can do and it returns later when appropriate. One would have a point that it was "random" had it not been for the fact that it was foreshadowed with supporting dialogue. Whis' words echo exactly why he used it in Resurrection F. That's conventional setup. Its second usage saved a Kaioshin from murder. Beforehand, he relied on it to gather explicit evidence and used a witness in Universe 7's Kaioshin to verify fate playing as such. I'm not seeing the foul here. It's responsible, even if I would argue they didn't need to wait for the killing blow. Personally, I think that will be plot relevant. Whis used the ability recently and will likely be unable to activate it when it's vital. Time will tell on that front. Every moment it's showcased has been with purpose. It's an interesting detail that adds to the character and the story's lore. The personality of said character doesn't imply that he will "spam" it, as they say. The implications don't exist, I think.

[Boo Machine]

It's not like Whis can always use it. I get why it upsets people when he used it the first time. But I think this time it's appropriate.

Whis never gives a specific time frame for the cool down on this ability , but him using time reversal here means he probably won't be able to use it for the rest of the arc. Which should be a good thing for people who don't like the ability. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but the usage in this last episode could have been a way to make sure the ability isn't a factor for whatever is to come.

[TheMikado]

It's not like Whis can always use it. I get why it upsets people when he used it the first time. But I think this time it's appropriate.

Whis never gives a specific time frame for the cool down on this ability , but him using time reversal here means he probably won't be able to use it for the rest of the arc. Which should be a good thing for people who don't like the ability. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but the usage in this last episode could have been a way to make sure the ability isn't a factor for whatever is to come.

I don't remember the anime stating it has a cool down period

[Nejishiki]

I don't remember the anime stating it has a cool down period

Minute: 14

Whis: "Once I've rewound time, I can't do it again for quite a while, so if you fail, the Earth can't be put back to normal anymore."

Significance: Unlike in Revival of "F", Whis mentions that Goku only gets one chance to save the day, adding an element of risk.

It's cited from Episode 27 of Dragon Ball Super.