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Post by Noah » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:07 pm

I know this might be untrue, but I heard that Toriyama said in a recent interview that Super will tie with GT, for realsies?? :wtf:
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Post by bigray » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:07 am

Non-Thread worthy...

In episode 4 of GT when Goku is trying to use his instant transmission to teleport trunks and Pan. he fucks up and they end up in the air, then they all fall and land on their heads with a big crash!

why didnt they just fly and lower themselves slowly?

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:41 am

Dragon Ball appears a lot in Malcolm in the Middle.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:03 pm

bigray wrote:In episode 4 of GT when Goku is trying to use his instant transmission to teleport trunks and Pan. he fucks up and they end up in the air, then they all fall and land on their heads with a big crash!
why didnt they just fly and lower themselves slowly?
As explained, Goku was incapable of using Instant Transmission at that point. None of them knew that yet, so more than likely they were just surprised and didn't have time to react.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:03 pm

bigray wrote:Non-Thread worthy...

In episode 4 of GT when Goku is trying to use his instant transmission to teleport trunks and Pan. he fucks up and they end up in the air, then they all fall and land on their heads with a big crash!

why didnt they just fly and lower themselves slowly?
Because characters forget they can fly in GT / filler

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Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:04 pm

Anyone else noticed that Black's clothing kind of doesn't make sense?

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In both the anime and Toriyama's drawing of him here, the "skirt" underneath the belt is drawn as though the right side was going over the left when it's actually the reverse.
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Post by Attitudefan » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:23 pm

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I have nothing against mohwaks, but... well... I always wanted to see a Kaioshin with an afro or dreadlocks or some other hairstyle, ya know. :P
Picturing Supreme Kai with dreadlocks just looks really really strange to me
I think we lack mullets in the series. Yamcha's got a pretty sweet one and Gohan as a kid did as well, but most characters are bald! GT had way too many Gohan style short hair.
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Post by MozillaVulpix » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:40 pm

That one point at the start of the Freeza fight where Gohan notices Krillin is bleeding from being hit by some debris is one of the realest moments in the series for me. When characters can be launched into mountains and hit with planet-exploding blasts and only get their clothes damaged or get a single cut, the idea you can be indirectly hurt just by the debris an attack creates makes everything feel surprisingly realistic. Even if it's not.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:44 pm

The preview track for Episode 47 of Super is amazing.
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Post by Cipher » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:58 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:In both the anime and Toriyama's drawing of him here, the "skirt" underneath the belt is drawn as though the right side was going over the left when it's actually the reverse.
That's just the front part of the gi overlapping the back. You're going to see it on both sides.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:18 pm

If I´m not wrong Vegeta (or Baby?) has been the only character to have shown the ability to fly while transformed in a Great Monkey (Dragon Ball GT episode 35?36?37?38?, can´t remember the exact episode).
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Post by Nejishiki » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:57 am

Dragon Ball Online describes Goku and Vegeta's final bout ending with supernovas. Well, accounting Episode of Bardock's silliness with exploding distortions (I reference Freeza's "supernova-like" ki ball sending Bardock through time, if that wasn't clear), who's to say the two didn't create time rifts affecting themselves in those explosive strikes? Perhaps that's the true origins of Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta? :P

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Post by ABED » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:22 am

I prefer Dragon Ball's approach to the opening recaps. DBZ and GT's were too uniform.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:59 pm

Nejishiki wrote:Dragon Ball Online describes Goku and Vegeta's final bout ending with supernovas. Well, accounting Episode of Bardock's silliness with exploding distortions (I reference Freeza's "supernova-like" ki ball sending Bardock through time, if that wasn't clear), who's to say the two didn't create time rifts affecting themselves in those explosive strikes? Perhaps that's the true origins of Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta? :P
Sure, why not? Xeno Goku and Vegeta aren't really canon (since Heroes is nowhere near canon), but you could work them into the timeline like that.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:28 pm

I hate both NEP's and episode recaps. it makes sense for TV, but why would I want to watch that on my home release?
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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:30 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I hate both NEP's and episode recaps. it makes sense for TV, but why would I want to watch that on my home release?
I like how Netflix does it. If available, it plays the opening, recap, or what have you, for the first episode you watch this session, and when you start the next (you have to manually skip the credits and NEP), it starts from the beginning of the episode.
Regardless, I like them. Mostly the NEP.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:37 pm

Cipher wrote:That's just the front part of the gi overlapping the back. You're going to see it on both sides.

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The difference is you see where the left side cuts off in your photo and with Goku's F gi, with Black? Doesn't happen. It looks as though the left side of his skirt completely wraps around his waist.

Goku's F gi (how it should work):
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Black's gi:
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Post by ABED » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:39 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I hate both NEP's and episode recaps. it makes sense for TV, but why would I want to watch that on my home release?
You can skip them or fast forward. My issue is that they take up air time.
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Post by Cipher » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:21 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Black's gi:
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The "cut" on both the right and left sides of Black's gi is still just a front piece over lapping a back one. Goku's gi in that design actually appears to be a bit different than both the one I posted and Black's.

Black's is basically a back with two front "sides" that fold over each other in an "X" shape behind his belt.

Actually, I don't know if I actually posted the right kind of example, looking at it again. I intended to get one that was folded over, rather than simply having a "cut" up the right side, but it's a little hard to tell what's going on there with that lighting.

Black's does make sense though.

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Post by nickzambuto » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:23 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:Sometimes I wonder if we analyze the story and characters more deeply than even Toriyama did. I mean, look, I have absolutely nothing against watching a kid's show as an adult (and if that's enough to qualify me as a nerd/dork, then I embrace that label without regret), but I wonder if Toriyama would find it weird to know that there's an entire forum revolving around adults from many different nationalities...analyzing a story that was meant for Japanese children.

As just one example, we write post after post and thread after thread about Goku's character...but I wonder if Toriyama simply approached the character with the attitude of, "He's not complicated, he just likes to fight and eat and that's that."

I don't know that I could necessarily make an entire thread out of this thought, but then again, that's why I posted it here. :lol:
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