Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Shounen » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:41 am

Araki wrote:Here is a top 10 of the most watched episodes ever:

01 Chibi Maruko-chan 1990/10/28 (Sun) 18:00 39.9%
02 Sazae-san 1979/09/16 (Sun) 18:30 39.4 %
03 Dr. Slump Arale-chan 1981/12/16 (Wed) 19:00 36.9%
04 Dokonjou Gaeru 1979/02/23 (Fri) 18:00 34.5%
05 Manga Nihon Mukashi Banashi 1981/01/10 (Sat) 19:00 33.6%
06 Lupin III Final Episode 1978/12/08 (Fri) 18:00 32.5%
07 Touch 1985/12/22 (Sun) 19:00 31.9%
08 Ashita no Joe 1980/03/13 (Thu) 18:00 31.6%
09 Doraemon 1983/02/11 (Fri) 19:00 31.2%
10 Gegege no Kitaro 1986/03/22 (Sat) 18:30 29.6%
And probably:
11 Dragon Ball 1987/01/21 (Wed) 19:00 29.5%

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:31 am

Araki wrote:Here is a top 10 of the most watched episodes ever:

01 Chibi Maruko-chan 1990/10/28 (Sun) 18:00 39.9%
02 Sazae-san 1979/09/16 (Sun) 18:30 39.4 %
03 Dr. Slump Arale-chan 1981/12/16 (Wed) 19:00 36.9%
04 Dokonjou Gaeru 1979/02/23 (Fri) 18:00 34.5%
05 Manga Nihon Mukashi Banashi 1981/01/10 (Sat) 19:00 33.6%
06 Lupin III Final Episode 1978/12/08 (Fri) 18:00 32.5%
07 Touch 1985/12/22 (Sun) 19:00 31.9%
08 Ashita no Joe 1980/03/13 (Thu) 18:00 31.6%
09 Doraemon 1983/02/11 (Fri) 19:00 31.2%
10 Gegege no Kitaro 1986/03/22 (Sat) 18:30 29.6%

source: http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/junre/03anime.htm
Dr Slump is the only anime based off of a manga from WSJ to make the top ten. It really does emphasises just how incredibly popular the show was in Japan in its prime and just how much a game changer that show was when it came to companies deciding whether to adapt manga from WSJ into long running anime's. I honestly think the monster TV success of Dr Slump is single-handedly responsible for anime companies becoming more interested in WSJ.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Bullza » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:33 am

You know this website does actually have the ratings information for all the old DB/Z?GT episodes.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/episode/

Dragon Ball

Average: 21.2%
Maximum: 29.5% (Episode 047)
Minimum: 13.7% (Episode 110)

Dragon Ball Z

Average: 20.5%
Maximum: 27.5% (Episode 218)
Minimum: 12.1% (Episode 273)

Dragon Ball GT

Average: 14.6%
Maximum: 19.7% (Episode 02)
Minimum: 9.6% (Episode 21)

Dragon Ball Kai 1

Average: 9.4%
Maximum: 12.3% (Episode 047)
Minimum: 6.4% (Episode 018)

Dragon Ball Kai 2

Average: 5.8%
Maximum: 7.6% (Episode 106)
Minimum: 3.7% (Episode 115)

The ratings for everything have dropped over the years so it's not like it's an apples to apples comparison. You could probably compare Kai 2 and Super though of which so far the latter is doing better.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:39 am

Yeah ratings seemed to have definitely declined which is even more frustrating that Toei are still adamant about TV deals for international. Streaming is the way of the age now, allow a simulcast and FUNi to release it dubbed on BD and online in the typical 14+ month wait and they'd be good. It works for Fairy Tail another long show, sells well for FUNi. Hell it works for One Piece another Toei show!! Also that way they wouldn't have to worry about fan subs.

With Resurrection "F" thought they were moving with the times but nope.

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Post by Chuquita » Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:51 pm

I wonder what episode of Dr. Slump got 36.9. :?:
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Post by Nejishiki » Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:54 pm

Chuquita wrote:I wonder what episode of Dr. Slump got 36.9. :?:
Episode 34, according to a quick search.

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Post by Bigivel » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:49 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
Araki wrote:Here is a top 10 of the most watched episodes ever:

01 Chibi Maruko-chan 1990/10/28 (Sun) 18:00 39.9%
02 Sazae-san 1979/09/16 (Sun) 18:30 39.4 %
03 Dr. Slump Arale-chan 1981/12/16 (Wed) 19:00 36.9%
04 Dokonjou Gaeru 1979/02/23 (Fri) 18:00 34.5%
05 Manga Nihon Mukashi Banashi 1981/01/10 (Sat) 19:00 33.6%
06 Lupin III Final Episode 1978/12/08 (Fri) 18:00 32.5%
07 Touch 1985/12/22 (Sun) 19:00 31.9%
08 Ashita no Joe 1980/03/13 (Thu) 18:00 31.6%
09 Doraemon 1983/02/11 (Fri) 19:00 31.2%
10 Gegege no Kitaro 1986/03/22 (Sat) 18:30 29.6%

source: http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/junre/03anime.htm
Dr Slump is the only anime based off of a manga from WSJ to make the top ten. It really does emphasises just how incredibly popular the show was in Japan in its prime and just how much a game changer that show was when it came to companies deciding whether to adapt manga from WSJ into long running anime's. I honestly think the monster TV success of Dr Slump is single-handedly responsible for anime companies becoming more interested in WSJ.

Dokonjou Gaeru is also Weekly Shonen Jump!

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Post by Bigivel » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:12 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Yeah ratings seemed to have definitely declined which is even more frustrating that Toei are still adamant about TV deals for international. Streaming is the way of the age now, allow a simulcast and FUNi to release it dubbed on BD and online in the typical 14+ month wait and they'd be good. It works for Fairy Tail another long show, sells well for FUNi. Hell it works for One Piece another Toei show!! Also that way they wouldn't have to worry about fan subs.

With Resurrection "F" thought they were moving with the times but nope.
Who said is Toei that is adamant about a TV deal of Dragon Ball Super? Did Funi said it was interested in doing Stream instead of waiting to show it on Television? You know given the fact that DB is Highly popular on TV and the fact that they are still in DB Kai Buu Saga, they are most probably waiting for it to end to start broadcasting Super. It would make no sense to stream it and than later show on TV, not when TV is the one with the biggest returns.

While "Streaming is the way of the age now" it still is way less profitable than TV, and way less watched when talking of a popular series(Each DB Kai episode in Toonami is seen by around 1.2 Million people, how many views that it gets the best episode of the best series in stream? And note that views is not the same as people watching.). Why go to the "age" when the other way is way better?

Who said Toei Animation is worried about fan subs?

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:44 am

Bigivel wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Yeah ratings seemed to have definitely declined which is even more frustrating that Toei are still adamant about TV deals for international. Streaming is the way of the age now, allow a simulcast and FUNi to release it dubbed on BD and online in the typical 14+ month wait and they'd be good. It works for Fairy Tail another long show, sells well for FUNi. Hell it works for One Piece another Toei show!! Also that way they wouldn't have to worry about fan subs.

With Resurrection "F" thought they were moving with the times but nope.
Who said is Toei that is adamant about a TV deal of Dragon Ball Super? Did Funi said it was interested in doing Stream instead of waiting to show it on Television? You know given the fact that DB is Highly popular on TV and the fact that they are still in DB Kai Buu Saga, they are most probably waiting for it to end to start broadcasting Super. It would make no sense to stream it and than later show on TV, not when TV is the one with the biggest returns.

While "Streaming is the way of the age now" it still is way less profitable than TV, and way less watched when talking of a popular series(Each DB Kai episode in Toonami is seen by around 1.2 Million people, how many views that it gets the best episode of the best series in stream? And note that views is not the same as people watching.). Why go to the "age" when the other way is way better?

Who said Toei Animation is worried about fan subs?
Manga entertainment said Toei are looking to license Super on TV deals only, when that can't be accomplished they'll allow it to be released normal.

They aren't waiting for Kai because Toei want it on mainstream Kids TV presumably daily and during a good timeslot. & that is hard to come by in this age as most stations seem far more willing to broadcast home grown shows.

Good point about Kai it does well on Toonami despite being able to be watched legally for years, that is my point it's been what well over a year since Super has aired and Toei haven't made a single dollar from America yet because they're faffing around with this TV deal malarkey. Allow the show to be streamed in Japanese until this is done. They are worried about fan subs because they've handed out C&D's to various groups. Also in this age piracy is a lot more easier to access then before, Toei think they're smart not allowing it to be released legally thinking when it's localised people will have to watch it since they haven't seen it before... Yeah right. That's the problem with them not moving on with the age.

Bottom line Toei want their cake and want to eat it too. There isn't nothing wrong with wanting to have it on TV but it is when they are putting all their eggs in that TV basket. For example Viz announced they licensed HxH for home video then a few months later boom TV deal with Toonami happened, Viz were gonna release it on BD/DVD no matter what but the fact that this TV deal happened was a bonus. That's how Toei should be treating this in my opinion.

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Post by HeroR » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:02 am

Shows in general get more money when they air on TV, not just come out on DVD. That was why Funi was trying to get One Piece on TV for years after Toonami took it off the air and then died. Funi was also trying to get other shows like Fairy Tail and Fruit Basket on TV with no success outside of their own channel. Because anime is aired on so few networks, streaming is the only choice for many of them, although it isn't ideal. For HxH, it would be an added bonus to get it on TV since Toonami was doing more short series and outside of Cartoon Network, HxH never had a chance of being on the air.

Dragon Ball is different since it is one of the few anime that can be put on TV, and not left to rot on Hulu or Netflix.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:19 pm

HeroR wrote:Dragon Ball is different since it is one of the few anime that can be put on TV, and not left to rot on Hulu or Netflix.
I honestly Dragon Ball think is the only anime that major international networks would be willing to take a gamble on. I mean, back it's hey day, Z pulled in some monster ratings, but that was more to do with how well it was advertised on TV.

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Post by Bullza » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:01 pm

I'm pretty sure even the re-runs of Dragon Kai were getting over a million viewers in the US.

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Post by HeroR » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:11 pm

Bullza wrote:I'm pretty sure even the re-runs of Dragon Kai were getting over a million viewers in the US.
Kai on Toonami get around 1.2 million viewers and around 800,500 for viewership between the ages of 18 and 25. Kai once set a record with over two million views, rivaling Family Guy. It is also Toonami's highest rated show.
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Post by irreality » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:05 pm

Week of September 25:
sazae san 12.5
chibi maruko chan 7.3
one piece 7.0
detective conan 6.6
dragon ball super 5.9
Yokai Watch 3.8
Ace Attorney 3.5
Something Disney related 3.4
Anpanman 3.1
Curious George 2.7
Shaun the Sheep 2.7

Wow, this thread was almost bumped to the next page!

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Post by Bullza » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:22 pm

A 5.9% but it must have been a slow week because One Piece only has a 7.0% itself.

Last time One Piece got a 7.0% was a few weeks back and when DBS got a 5.7% so its held up better in comparison this time.

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Post by BlacXero » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:27 am

Maybe because of school?

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:39 am

5.9 for episode 59 lol. That is actually pretty good considering the non interesting NEP, next week should be be bit better.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:22 am

Very weak rating. I guess what was advertised in the NEP wasn't enough to entice viewers to tune in droves for the next episode.

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Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:19 am

I hope Shippuden makes it to the top 10 this week. The Naruto v Sasuke fight is being hyped as hell. Super excited for that fight.

On topic, not a bad rating for Super considering how boring #59 was.

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Post by BlacXero » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:58 am

Saikyo no Senshi wrote:I hope Shippuden makes it to the top 10 this week. The Naruto v Sasuke fight is being hyped as hell. Super excited for that fight.

On topic, not a bad rating for Super considering how boring #59 was.

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Boring?? It was a really good episode, that Beerus moment was so cool

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